Death penalty discussion

[The Sage of Main Street]

what is your opinion of facts please about the press?

Jurinalists Give Us Trickle-Down Information

Irrelevant, just like words unattached to a sentence. It is the conclusions hinted at by the selection of facts that is the only important thing.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

The press ... what about the press?

Savages Needed to Be Tamed

The media refuse to tell us that slavery was punishment.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

He was talking about stoning.

The Only Way JC Could Get a Hot Girlfriend

Except when the luscious Monica Bellucci was getting the treatment. That truly would have been a mortal sin against OMG.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Yeah!!!!

Frankly to me the press operates like a 4th estate as were they the genuine government.

Noose Shows Show Only the Shallow

 

[Meathead]

Jurinalists Give Us Trickle-Down Information

Irrelevant, just like words unattached to a sentence. It is the conclusions hinted at by the selection of facts that is the only important thing.

Are "jurinalists" judges or jury? Either way, don't know what they'd have to do with public information.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

I can appreciate that reasoning. And I won't fault it. It is estimated that roughly 4% of those on death row have been found innocent and released. But the process did allow for that to happen.

How many innocent have been executed? When the system works as it should I would guess that percentage would be much smaller. And nobody should EVER be on death row based on circumstantial evidence alone.

"Better to Let 10 Murderers Go on Killing Than Let One Thug Get Executed for Something He Didn't Do Yet"

To my way of thinking, just because something is never mentioned by the hired Influencers calls for it to get included in a free press. That is, these verbal vermin can't do the math.

How many are killed later by those who were acquitted through soft-on-crime rules of court procedure? If we were allowed to gather the data, they would surely indicate that far more lives are lost that way than through execution of an innocent person, who is probably not innocent of other serious crimes himself.

The 300 had to sacrifice themselves so millions of Europeans could be free of Persian (Iranian) tyranny. So too for those who have to sacrifice themselves so that punishment can drastically reduce the criminal "community."

 

[Foxfyre]

The "Unborn" Is as Creepy and Superstitious as the "Undead"

Was that not you in your mother's womb though yet unborn? What superstition is involved about that? Why is that 'creepy' as you put it? Did not you not grow into a human creature with heart, lungs, arms, legs, face, eyes, hair etc. while yet in your mother's womb?

In those moments as she was going into labor to give birth to you, were you essentially different that you would be when she first held you in her arms? True you had not yet drawn your first breath of air before you were born as she still provided you with life sustaining oxygen, but for all practical purposes you were you that last day when you were yet unborn.

But you were totally innocent that day. You had not yet learned to lie, to deceive, to cheat, to do harm to any other. Many of us would see it as a tragedy to have ended your life while you were still unborn.

Not so much after you had lied, cheated, stolen, raped, tortured and murdered your victim or victims in unspeakably terrible ways.

 

[Foxfyre]

"Better to Let 10 Murderers Go on Killing Than Let One Thug Get Executed for Something He Didn't Do Yet"

To my way of thinking, just because something is never mentioned by the hired Influencers calls for it to get included in a free press. That is, these verbal vermin can't do the math.

How many are killed later by those who were acquitted through soft-on-crime rules of court procedure? If we were allowed to gather the data, they would surely indicate that far more lives are lost that way than through execution of an innocent person, who is probably not innocent of other serious crimes himself.

The 300 had to sacrifice themselves so millions of Europeans could be free of Persian (Iranian) tyranny. So too for those who have to sacrifice themselves so that punishment can drastically reduce the criminal "community."

Which all is quite non sequitur to my post you are responding to.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Was that not you in your mother's womb though yet unborn? What superstition is involved about that? Why is that 'creepy' as you put it? Did not you not grow into a human creature with heart, lungs, arms, legs, face, eyes, hair etc. while yet in your mother's womb?

In those moments as she was going into labor to give birth to you, were you essentially different that you would be when she first held you in her arms? True you had not yet drawn your first breath of air before you were born as she still provided you with life sustaining oxygen, but for all practical purposes you were you that last day when you were yet unborn.

But you were totally innocent that day. You had not yet learned to lie, to deceive, to cheat, to do harm to any other. Many of us would see it as a tragedy to have ended your life while you were still unborn.

Not so much after you had lied, cheated, stolen, raped, tortured and murdered your victim or victims in unspeakably terrible ways.

Don't Drive on a Bridge Under Construction

A seed is not a plant until it's broken through the soil, no matter how much it is developing when under the ground.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Which all is quite non sequitur to my post you are respondingAs

The Infloozies Argue About Which Wrong Way to Take

As I indicated in the first sentence, it does follow if you won't allow others to lead you.

 

[Foxfyre]

Don't Drive on a Bridge Under Construction

A seed is not a plant until it's broken through the soil, no matter how much it is developing when under the ground.

You were not a plant, which unlike animals, does the majority of its most critical development once it has emerged from the soil. You were a living 99% fully formed sentient being the day before you were born. If you don't believe that, you don't believe that. If you don't, it certainly brings your intellect into question however.

 

[Foxfyre]

The Infloozies Argue About Which Wrong Way to Take

As I indicated in the first sentence, it does follow if you won't allow others to lead you.

The idiots and intellectually dishonest of the world communicate in riddles to hide the fact they don't know anything.

 

[Robert W]

"Better to Let 10 Murderers Go on Killing Than Let One Thug Get Executed for Something He Didn't Do Yet"

Maybe hundreds murdered by those you favor to save your guy from being executed?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Catholic Church opposes abortion, so no, they are not on the same side.

On the issue of execution, yes, they are, so that makes the RCC a lefty organization, which is horse shit.

Tucker was funkier than a bat with rabies.

I don't like the DP, but life without parole is a sentence to state-directed mental madness.

 

[deannalw]

This is a bit different than Democrats readers suppose.
I want to talk about the press and how they handle the death penalty.
So if you join in, please keep it to the press and them discussing the penalty.

I have tracked them from maybe once Karla Faye Tucker was still living. When she got executed, I took notice of what the Press had to say.
Days ago a convict was executed in Florida. This was a serious admitted serial killer. Since reports are easy to find now, you all need to read them to really get what I am talking about.

Once you check him out, also look up pending executions to see others in line. That site also shows past executions. When you see a name, check him out. You will learn fast the press has extreme sympathy for the killers.
It will interest me what you think about the press reports.

I believe since the press is left wing, they don't hide their agenda.

Really my beginning of Karla Tucker.
In her case, the media kept focusing on her religious conversion in prison.

Karla Faye Tucker was an American woman sentenced to death for killing two people with a pickaxe during a burglary. She was the first woman to be executed in the United States since Velma Barfield in 1984 in North Carolina, and the first in Texas since Chipita Rodriguez in 1863. Wikipedia
Born: November 18, 1959, Houston, TX
Died: February 3, 1998 (age 38 years), Huntsville Unit, Huntsville, TX

I agree with your stance. But I gotta say- karla Tucker was a hard one to wish death on. I usually don't have much of a problem with that. And the press was all over this story. By the time they were done, I had to wonder how much more there was behind their portrayal.

 

[deannalw]

On the issue of execution, yes, they are, so that makes the RCC a lefty organization, which is horse shit.

Tucker was funkier than a bat with rabies.

I don't like the DP, but life without parole is a sentence to state-directed mental madness.

Some families may feel that same state directed madness when the man who spent 40 hours killing their little girl and dismembered her so she'd fit in the suitcase. I have no sympathy or empathy for those that commit evil acts upon others.

 

[whitehall]

Hypocrite left wingers claim that the death penalty is illegal but they defend the Jan 6 Capital cop who executed Jan 6 demonstrator Ashli Babbitt.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Hypocrite left wingers claim that the death penalty is illegal but they defend the Jan 6 Capital cop who executed Jan 6 demonstrator Ashli Babbitt.

A lot of people, left and right, don't like execution, yes.

Ashlii Babbitt would not follow instructions in a terrible situation. The $5m settlement is a Trump play to the right.

 

[the watcher]

Another one bites the dust. 13 years waiting for him to show some humanity.

 

[Robert W]

Some families may feel that same state directed madness when the man who spent 40 hours killing their little girl and dismembered her so she'd fit in the suitcase. I have no sympathy or empathy for those that commit evil acts upon others.

John Slow Horses refuses to discuss the press.