Death penalty discussion

[whoisit]

And about the press?

I'm off and on here so I didn't get the subject right off, I think the press in most cases are more political in their reporting on all issues. They tend to be more socialist.
Then again, they always did seem to lean left. Edward Murrow comes to mind.

 

[Robert W]

Most, not all, prolifers see it as the same issue. Folks like Hillary are consistent - kill the baby and kill the killer.

He and I discussed the media. We had to come up with a decent commentary to discuss the media. Do you have any opinion on the media and their treatment of the executions?

 

[Woodznutz]

No he wasn't.

That was the prescribed method of execution among the Jews.

 

[Robert W]

I'm off and on here so I didn't get the subject right off, I think the press in most cases are more political in their reporting on all issues. They tend to be more socialist.
Then again, they always did seem to lean left. Edward Murrow comes to mind.

I believe you are correct. We have a press problem along with them and their socialist agenda.

 

[Meathead]

That was the prescribed method of execution among the Jews.

We should adopt stoning.

 

[Woodznutz]

I believe you are correct. We have a press problem along with them and their socialist agenda.

The press deals in sensationalism, which is a deliberate distraction from what they should be concerned with. Of course, most people gobble it up as if it were their last meal.

 

[Robert W]

By definition. It's a shame so few are actually carried out.

I recall Ethel and Julius Rosenberg being electrocuted and at that time as I recall them the press treated them as traitors to the nation.

I happen to think that today's press would honor them as heros devoted to saving lives due to their apparent fight against hydrogen bombs.

 

[whitehall]

The media never defended Karla Tucker's religious conversion, they made fun of it. Hypocrite lefties seem to support the death penalty in certain cases like Bundy and Gacy but they claim to be against it for political reasons.

 

[gtopa1]

All consequences for crime should be just that, i.e. consequences. Not punishment. Not revenge. But imposing a consequence of law for behavior society deems unacceptable.

The consequences for most crime should be a fine, community service and/or making restitution to those harmed. The consequences for some crimes justify jail and/or prison. The consequences for some crimes justify loss of freedom for life. And the consequence for some crimes so unconscionably viscious, terrible, cruel, savage, threat to all of society that in my opinion should be death to the perpetrator.

Hi Foxy. I shared your opinion up until about ten years ago regarding "unconscionably vicious, terrible, cruel, savage, threat to all of society" and frankly I say good riddance to the vermin even now, BUT there have been simply too many "death row" inmates shown to be innocent and even set up by corrupted/sloppy/ who knows? police. So now my view is as follows; life means life behind bars for those who are the worst of the worst; not this 25 years garbage with releases in 15 with "good behavior". It is simply not worth the risk of killing someone who is innocent.

Especially when you consider that 50% of juries are Democrats.

Greg

 

[Robert W]

The press deals in sensationalism, which is a deliberate distraction from what they should be concerned with. Of course, most people gobble it up as if it were their last meal.

A good example to support your thinking is even here in Idaho, watching the news on TV this is what the press does in 30 minutes.
1. Local news story.
2. Local story again.
3. Weather report.
4. Maybe a national story.
5. Soon another weather report.
6. Then they might hit a political report. Here in a R state, the media still is a D media.
7. Perhaps a legal report.
8. Perhaps an animal report
9. Weather report again
End

 

[Robert W]

Hi Foxy. I shared your opinion up until about ten years ago regarding "unconscionably vicious, terrible, cruel, savage, threat to all of society" and frankly I say good riddance to the vermin even now, BUT there have been simply too many "death row" inmates shown to be innocent and even set up by corrupted/sloppy/ who knows? police. So now my view is as follows; life means life behind bars for those who are the worst of the worst; not this 25 years garbage with releases in 15 with "good behavior". It is simply not worth the risk of killing someone who is innocent.

Especially when you consider that 50% of juries are Democrats.

Greg

How do you examine the press on this topic?

 

[Robert W]

Criminals, Not Just Murderers, Are Enemies of the Human Race

The Jurinalists want to save lives that take lives. They should have no more crdibility than their colleagues at The National Enquirer. We should read even the most respected fishwraps, including the ones that pretend to be on our side, just to laugh at them. You can tell by their copycat grammar that they're all in the same toxic clique.

Yeah!!!!

Frankly to me the press operates like a 4th estate as were they the genuine government.

 

[pknopp]

That was the prescribed method of execution among the Jews.

And not who you brought up.

 

[Robert W]

The media never defended Karla Tucker's religious conversion, they made fun of it. Hypocrite lefties seem to support the death penalty in certain cases like Bundy and Gacy but they claim to be against it for political reasons.

I used her so you and others can explain it was different for her than today. I suppose the old time press vanished and the democrats really took over the press after her death.

 

[Foxfyre]

Hi Foxy. I shared your opinion up until about ten years ago regarding "unconscionably vicious, terrible, cruel, savage, threat to all of society" and frankly I say good riddance to the vermin even now, BUT there have been simply too many "death row" inmates shown to be innocent and even set up by corrupted/sloppy/ who knows? police. So now my view is as follows; life means life behind bars for those who are the worst of the worst; not this 25 years garbage with releases in 15 with "good behavior". It is simply not worth the risk of killing someone who is innocent.

Especially when you consider that 50% of juries are Democrats.

Greg

I can appreciate that reasoning. And I won't fault it. It is estimated that roughly 4% of those on death row have been found innocent and released. But the process did allow for that to happen.

How many innocent have been executed? When the system works as it should I would guess that percentage would be much smaller. And nobody should EVER be on death row based on circumstantial evidence alone.

But I think of the example of those vicious people serving life in prison and who do unspeakable cruelty in the assault or murder of prison personnel or other inmates. With no death penalty, what consequence is there for them? Justice seems that a more severe consequence should be available to be imposed.

Not an easy issue to draw absolute conclusions from for sure though. I've often wondered if I was in a jury pool and they asked me if I would be able to give a verdict that sent someone to his/her death, could I honestly say I could do that? I think I could if the crime was horrible enough. But I don't know.

 

[Foxfyre]

Perhaps you need to understand what death Jesus was talking about here.

Jesus was giving illustrations of the Law and how they were misapplied by the Pharisees in a hypocritical way.

 

[Robert W]

The press deals in sensationalism, which is a deliberate distraction from what they should be concerned with. Of course, most people gobble it up as if it were their last meal.

I will now follow you in trying to elaborate on the press.
Years, long ago, the press told the news. In papers they also had editorials. Those were opinions. We mostly get news on TV where they are generally primarily opinions with bits of news for us. TV news long ago in our distant past, just focused on news.
Well, we have the internet. We will see news there and also opinion. Mixed up.
The democrats of old realized how good for them propaganda is. So Democrats bought papers and the internet news. Along came Fox News and immediately were attacked by Democrats. Today's struggle is getting back to news that simply is true. Opinions need to be optional. Democrats of course will really resist. Even here in Idaho our media definitely is run by Democrats. I think them controlling Boise gave them a leg up.

 

[Robert W]

I see perfectly how hard it is for posters to stick to discussing our press coverage of inmates put to death. Some allege innocents are murdered.

Well not to capitulate, I will now insert a statement made by an executed husband and wife the same day to learn from all posters if this couple were really innocent.

 

[JOSweetHeart]

An execution is most definitely another killing to add to an already long list, but to me, if those who are executed are demon possessed enough, I don't see the point of keeping them alive on this planet any further when they are the first to not show such consideration for whoever it is that they choose to kill.

God bless you and the families of their victims always!!!

Holly

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Pro Life for innocents in the womb and Pro Death for felons.

The "Unborn" Is as Creepy and Superstitious as the "Undead"