Dear NRA, There Is A Scientific Consensus On Guns And Safety. And You Won't Like It.

[C_Clayton_Jones]

so move and stop being such a whiney f()ck

The Second Amendment is FEDERAL Law. It should trump ANY/ALL state laws restricting purchase and possession of firearms.

The Second Amendment exists solely in the context of its case law as determined by the Federal courts, as is the case with the rest of the Constitution.

State laws that conform to Second Amendment jurisprudence are in fact Constitutional, including state laws that place restrictions on firearms.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

the only way I'll ever lose my firearms is from my cold, dead hands.

no one is seriously trying to take all guns away

No one is trying to take any guns 'away.'

 

[westwall]

so move and stop being such a whiney f()ck

The Second Amendment is FEDERAL Law. It should trump ANY/ALL state laws restricting purchase and possession of firearms.

The Second Amendment exists solely in the context of its case law as determined by the Federal courts, as is the case with the rest of the Constitution.

State laws that conform to Second Amendment jurisprudence are in fact Constitutional, including state laws that place restrictions on firearms.

You mean all of those State laws that were recently ruled unconstitutional? Those laws?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

no one is seriously trying to take all guns away

When the Government tells me I cannot purchase a specific model or type of firearm, or that I must acquire additional, costly licenses to do so, they have already taken those firearms away.

Nonsense.

Government can't 'take away' that which you never possessed.

And you currently have access to other types of firearms for lawful self-defense, in accordance with current Second Amendment jurisprudence.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

two thumbs up his arse

it's a circus act

Why do you kill threads ?

Just asking.

while...
imitation is considered one of the most sincerest forms of flattery, coming from you it's pathetic

Good thing you aren't flattered....

Hypocrite.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

There's scientific consensus on guns -- and the NRA won't like it

Just one more thing that may pit many conservatives against scientific inquiry. There are lots of liberals who own guns, but conservatives have a special place in their hearts for the NRA and lately a special place in their hearts for despising scientific inquiry

So I decided to determine objectively, through polling, whether there was scientific consensus on firearms. What I found won't please the National Rifle Assn.


My first step was to put together a list of relevant scientists. I decided that to qualify for the survey the researcher should have published on firearms in a peer-reviewed scientific journal, and that he or she should be an active scientist — someone who had published an article in the last four years. I was interested in social science and policy issues, so I wanted the articles to be directly relevant. I was not interested in scientists doing research in forensics, history, medical treatment, psychiatric issues, engineering or non-firearms (for example, nail guns, electron guns).

Scientific consensus isn't always right, but it's our best guide to understanding the world. Can reporters please stop pretending that scientists, like politicians, are evenly divided on guns? We're not.

​

Let the denial begin...

"Polling" Only a complete moron could possibly think that polling for an OPINION, is scientific!

Yes, well you've got this one nailed down.

 

[westwall]

no one is seriously trying to take all guns away

When the Government tells me I cannot purchase a specific model or type of firearm, or that I must acquire additional, costly licenses to do so, they have already taken those firearms away.

REally?

You cannot buy and own a cannon

Care to bet?

WWII (1945 dated) Russian 45mm anti tank gun. Registered destructive device and functional gun. Can transfer on Form 4. Traverse and elevation wheels work, good bore, solid rubber tires. Breech ring has been repaired by welding. One 45mm brass piece and inert shell included. Also included is a 20mm vulcan sub-cal adapter. 20mm vulcan practice rounds are available for an extra cost if you purchase this gun. Email for more pictures. Buyer to arrange shipping. Interesting trades considered.

http://bluffutah.org/wp-content/gallery/muley-point/12911572-muley.jpg

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Really?

You cannot buy and own a cannon

In the Communistwealth where I live, I cannot legally purchase firearns which are made, assembled, and tested by friends of mine less than 35 miles from where I live.

And have you filed suit in Federal court to challenge the constitutionality of such laws; until such time as a Federal court holds that your state's restrictions violate the Second Amendment, those measures are in fact Constitutional, where your rights have not been 'violated.'

 

[westwall]

Really?

You cannot buy and own a cannon

In the Communistwealth where I live, I cannot legally purchase firearns which are made, assembled, and tested by friends of mine less than 35 miles from where I live.

And have you filed suit in Federal court to challenge the constitutionality of such laws; until such time as a Federal court holds that your state's restrictions violate the Second Amendment, those measures are in fact Constitutional, where your rights have not been 'violated.'

Wrong, they are de facto (not de jure) LEGAL, their constitutionality are in question until they are ruled upon.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Really?

You cannot buy and own a cannon

In the Communistwealth where I live, I cannot legally purchase firearns which are made, assembled, and tested by friends of mine less than 35 miles from where I live.

And have you filed suit in Federal court to challenge the constitutionality of such laws; until such time as a Federal court holds that your state's restrictions violate the Second Amendment, those measures are in fact Constitutional, where your rights have not been 'violated.'

Wrong, they are de facto (not de jure) LEGAL, their constitutionality are in question until they are ruled upon.

Wrong.

Laws are presumed to be Constitutional until a Federal court rules otherwise. (See US v. Morrison)

Laws, their enactment and enforcement, are the purview of the political process, not judicial, until subject to a ruling by the courts.

Indeed, the first course of action to address a law citizens believe to be un-Constitutional is through the political process, to have the law repealed or amended to remove its provisions intended to disadvantage citizens.

 

[Dante]

There's scientific consensus on guns -- and the NRA won't like it

Just one more thing that may pit many conservatives against scientific inquiry. There are lots of liberals who own guns, but conservatives have a special place in their hearts for the NRA and lately a special place in their hearts for despising scientific inquiry

So I decided to determine objectively, through polling, whether there was scientific consensus on firearms. What I found won't please the National Rifle Assn.


My first step was to put together a list of relevant scientists. I decided that to qualify for the survey the researcher should have published on firearms in a peer-reviewed scientific journal, and that he or she should be an active scientist — someone who had published an article in the last four years. I was interested in social science and policy issues, so I wanted the articles to be directly relevant. I was not interested in scientists doing research in forensics, history, medical treatment, psychiatric issues, engineering or non-firearms (for example, nail guns, electron guns).

Scientific consensus isn't always right, but it's our best guide to understanding the world. Can reporters please stop pretending that scientists, like politicians, are evenly divided on guns? We're not.

​

Let the denial begin...

Excuse me.. There's a big difference between political "science" and SCIENCE.
Having the requisite ignorant bliss of science that liberal arts leftists often have -- that might not have occurred to you before you went off on the rant.

There's not a lot of physics or math or chemistry involved in lying with statistics. Which is the basis of most academic work in political or social "science"..

So like others your argument isn't about science, it's about ideology.

 

[Dante]

There's scientific consensus on guns -- and the NRA won't like it

Just one more thing that may pit many conservatives against scientific inquiry. There are lots of liberals who own guns, but conservatives have a special place in their hearts for the NRA and lately a special place in their hearts for despising scientific inquiry

So I decided to determine objectively, through polling, whether there was scientific consensus on firearms. What I found won't please the National Rifle Assn.


My first step was to put together a list of relevant scientists. I decided that to qualify for the survey the researcher should have published on firearms in a peer-reviewed scientific journal, and that he or she should be an active scientist — someone who had published an article in the last four years. I was interested in social science and policy issues, so I wanted the articles to be directly relevant. I was not interested in scientists doing research in forensics, history, medical treatment, psychiatric issues, engineering or non-firearms (for example, nail guns, electron guns).

Scientific consensus isn't always right, but it's our best guide to understanding the world. Can reporters please stop pretending that scientists, like politicians, are evenly divided on guns? We're not.

​

Let the denial begin...

"Polling" Only a complete moron could possibly think that polling for an OPINION, is scientific!

survey the researcher should have published on firearms in a peer-reviewed scientific journal,

 

[Dante]

so move and stop being such a whiney f()ck

The Second Amendment is FEDERAL Law. It should trump ANY/ALL state laws restricting purchase and possession of firearms.

The Second Amendment exists solely in the context of its case law as determined by the Federal courts, as is the case with the rest of the Constitution.

State laws that conform to Second Amendment jurisprudence are in fact Constitutional, including state laws that place restrictions on firearms.

You mean all of those State laws that were recently ruled unconstitutional? Those laws?

So now you agree with the Supreme Court having a say

 

[Dante]

no one is seriously trying to take all guns away

When the Government tells me I cannot purchase a specific model or type of firearm, or that I must acquire additional, costly licenses to do so, they have already taken those firearms away.

REally?

You cannot buy and own a cannon

Care to bet?

WWII (1945 dated) Russian 45mm anti tank gun. Registered destructive device and functional gun. Can transfer on Form 4. Traverse and elevation wheels work, good bore, solid rubber tires. Breech ring has been repaired by welding. One 45mm brass piece and inert shell included. Also included is a 20mm vulcan sub-cal adapter. 20mm vulcan practice rounds are available for an extra cost if you purchase this gun. Email for more pictures. Buyer to arrange shipping. Interesting trades considered.

http://bluffutah.org/wp-content/gallery/muley-point/12911572-muley.jpg

Gawd, you people are nuts.

 

[Two Thumbs]

N Koreans with Zero access to arms

Two million N Koreans have access to firearms.

Obviously you are allergic to facts and incapable of doing anything but kneejerk emoting.

Since you have nothing of value to contribute to the OP your subsequent drivel will be treated with the contempt that it deserves.

Have a nice day.

N. Korea enacts rules on regulating firearms | YONHAP NEWS

Under the regulations, guns are allowed only for its "primary purposes" including executing official duties such as keeping guard and training.

Institutions, businesses, groups and the public are prohibited from possessing or transacting firearms according to the law, which also banned lending, smuggling, destroying and self-producing firearms.



class dismissed.

 

[Dante]

N Koreans with Zero access to arms

Two million N Koreans have access to firearms.

Obviously you are allergic to facts and incapable of doing anything but kneejerk emoting.

Since you have nothing of value to contribute to the OP your subsequent drivel will be treated with the contempt that it deserves.

Have a nice day.

N. Korea enacts rules on regulating firearms | YONHAP NEWS

Under the regulations, guns are allowed only for its "primary purposes" including executing official duties such as keeping guard and training.

Institutions, businesses, groups and the public are prohibited from possessing or transacting firearms according to the law, which also banned lending, smuggling, destroying and self-producing firearms.



class dismissed.

what is up with your signature? the closed quote tags? class dismissed, the Mossad is on the phone

 

[Anathema]

Sorry boys and girls but I do not accept the Constitutionality of ANY gun law in tgis coubtry and do my vest to avoid/ignore as many of them as possible.

 

[westwall]

There's scientific consensus on guns -- and the NRA won't like it

Just one more thing that may pit many conservatives against scientific inquiry. There are lots of liberals who own guns, but conservatives have a special place in their hearts for the NRA and lately a special place in their hearts for despising scientific inquiry

So I decided to determine objectively, through polling, whether there was scientific consensus on firearms. What I found won't please the National Rifle Assn.


My first step was to put together a list of relevant scientists. I decided that to qualify for the survey the researcher should have published on firearms in a peer-reviewed scientific journal, and that he or she should be an active scientist — someone who had published an article in the last four years. I was interested in social science and policy issues, so I wanted the articles to be directly relevant. I was not interested in scientists doing research in forensics, history, medical treatment, psychiatric issues, engineering or non-firearms (for example, nail guns, electron guns).

Scientific consensus isn't always right, but it's our best guide to understanding the world. Can reporters please stop pretending that scientists, like politicians, are evenly divided on guns? We're not.

​

Let the denial begin...

"Polling" Only a complete moron could possibly think that polling for an OPINION, is scientific!

survey the researcher should have published on firearms in a peer-reviewed scientific journal,

So, how is a survey, that is based on VOLUNTARY polling data....science?

This should be all sorts of funny....

 

[westwall]

so move and stop being such a whiney f()ck

The Second Amendment is FEDERAL Law. It should trump ANY/ALL state laws restricting purchase and possession of firearms.

The Second Amendment exists solely in the context of its case law as determined by the Federal courts, as is the case with the rest of the Constitution.

State laws that conform to Second Amendment jurisprudence are in fact Constitutional, including state laws that place restrictions on firearms.

You mean all of those State laws that were recently ruled unconstitutional? Those laws?

So now you agree with the Supreme Court having a say

so move and stop being such a whiney f()ck

The Second Amendment is FEDERAL Law. It should trump ANY/ALL state laws restricting purchase and possession of firearms.

The Second Amendment exists solely in the context of its case law as determined by the Federal courts, as is the case with the rest of the Constitution.

State laws that conform to Second Amendment jurisprudence are in fact Constitutional, including state laws that place restrictions on firearms.

You mean all of those State laws that were recently ruled unconstitutional? Those laws?

So now you agree with the Supreme Court having a say

When have I ever said SCOTUS was to be ignored? Ignorance (sic) is YOUR schtick, junior.

 

[westwall]

no one is seriously trying to take all guns away

When the Government tells me I cannot purchase a specific model or type of firearm, or that I must acquire additional, costly licenses to do so, they have already taken those firearms away.

REally?

You cannot buy and own a cannon

Care to bet?

WWII (1945 dated) Russian 45mm anti tank gun. Registered destructive device and functional gun. Can transfer on Form 4. Traverse and elevation wheels work, good bore, solid rubber tires. Breech ring has been repaired by welding. One 45mm brass piece and inert shell included. Also included is a 20mm vulcan sub-cal adapter. 20mm vulcan practice rounds are available for an extra cost if you purchase this gun. Email for more pictures. Buyer to arrange shipping. Interesting trades considered.

http://bluffutah.org/wp-content/gallery/muley-point/12911572-muley.jpg

Gawd, you people are nuts.

Why? Because we like things that you don't? Because we can actually DO things with our hands? Because we are creative in ways that your tiny little brain can not imagine? Because we are self reliant and when the chips are down and the neighborhood is underwater the neighbors come to us while you sit curled up, quivering in a ball in the corner of your bedroom?

Face it dude. You have nothing to offer. You know NOTHING about the subject as I have repeatedly demonstrated. You're a leech with a tiny imagination, and even tinier mind, and the mere thought that there are people out there who can actually do things just scares the shit out of you.

Too bad. Grow up.