Daniel Kovalik: Why Russia's intervention in Ukraine is legal under international law

[occupied]

No, you were just ignorant.
Countries like China, Korea, Vietnam, Cuba, etc., were not our enemies, but we still paid dictators like Shen Kai Shek, Syngman Rhee, Diem, Batista, to murder and enslave, until Russia helped liberate those people.
Russia did good without intent of profit.
The US bad under the intent of profit.

The US is the most fascist country in the entire world.
Fascism is a coalition of the corrupt wealthy elite.

Russian leaders and people have always been in love with conquest and empire. Seems you are giving them a free pass on that fact. Last time they owned Ukraine it was a slave state with no autonomy and brutal oppression. People absolutely starved on the richest farmland in the world. The Ukrainian people have every right to resist enslavement and we have a moral imperative to help them.

 

[Darkwind]

Russian leaders and people have always been in love with conquest and empire. Seems you are giving them a free pass on that fact. Last time they owned Ukraine it was a slave state with no autonomy and brutal oppression. People absolutely starved on the richest farmland in the world. The Ukrainian people have every right to resist enslavement and we have a moral imperative to help them.

We do NOT.

full stop.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Russia did good without intent of profit.

Exactly!!

Just ask the Eastern Europeans how they feel about all that Russian "good" they received.

 

[Death-Ninja]

I served in the military long ago when we knew Russia was our enemy. You jerks thinking they are somehow not still a threat to us and the rest of free world is a clear indication of what you fascists think of the free world these days.

BS, I do not believe a word you say, Russia is not the enemy, but the fascist democrat party, and its amoral base of support certainly are, Russia has been recipient of what can only be described as outrageously slanderous diplomatic abuse at the hands of you ******* fascist democrats, where they were slandered incessantly for the four years of the Trump presidency, which continues, even as the entire slanderous lying scam behind the fascist democrat spawned false flag have been proven irrefutably erroneous and malevolently manufactured by Obama, Clinton , the Clinton campaign, the DOJ, & the FBI!

 

[Harry Dresden]

No, you were just ignorant.
Countries like China, Korea, Vietnam, Cuba, etc., were not our enemies, but we still paid dictators like Shen Kai Shek, Syngman Rhee, Diem, Batista, to murder and enslave, until Russia helped liberate those people.
Russia did good without intent of profit.
The US bad under the intent of profit.

The US is the most fascist country in the entire world.
Fascism is a coalition of the corrupt wealthy elite.

so when are you leaving?....

 

[Donald H]

Your link:

"...as an American, I have had ample occasion to do so given that the US is, as Martin Luther King stated, 'the greatest purveyor of violence in the world.'

"Similarly, Jimmy Carter recently stated that the US is 'the most war-like nation in the history of the world'”

"This is demonstrably true, of course. In my lifetime alone, the US has waged aggressive and unprovoked wars against countries such as Vietnam, Grenada, Panama, the former Yugoslavia, Iraq (twice), Afghanistan, Libya, and Somalia. And this doesn’t even count the numerous proxy wars the US has fought via surrogates (e.g., through the Contras in Nicaragua, various jihadist groups in Syria, and through Saudi Arabia and the UAE in the ongoing war against Yemen)."

In addition to demonizing one side of a conflict, it is also required to deify the other:

All quite true but look at the tremendous success the US/Nato has had with it's propaganda blitz. Is that because another Iraq couldn't be repeated, due to the criminality. That sort of aggression couldn't be pulled off again. I think you understand perfectly well what is going on.

"One less traitor": Zelensky oversees campaign of assassination, kidnapping and torture of political opposition - The Grayzone

https://thegrayzone.com/2022/04/17/...ation-kidnapping-arrest-political-opposition/

"While claiming to defend democracy, Ukraine’s Volodymyr Zelensky has outlawed his opposition, ordered his rivals’ arrest, and presided over the disappearance and assassination of dissidents across the country."​

I can't obsess over the dirty little bastard. All is fair in love and war. Both sides of all wars would slaughter mothers and fathers in front of children for the pleasure of watching the suffering.

 

[occupied]

BS, I do not believe a word you say, Russia is not the enemy, but the fascist democrat party, and its amoral base of support certainly are, Russia has been recipient of what can only be described as outrageously slanderous diplomatic abuse at the hands of you ******* fascist democrats, where they were slandered incessantly for the four years of the Trump presidency, which continues, even as the entire slanderous lying scam behind the fascist democrat spawned false flag have been proven irrefutably erroneous and malevolently manufactured by Obama, Clinton , the Clinton campaign, the DOJ, & the FBI!

It didn't have to be but Putin decided they were going to rebuild the Soviet union and restart the cold war. This is the price they are paying. Now get on a plane for Russia and STFU.

 

[Donald H]

Well according to the globalists and neocons, the US and NATO countries are the only ones allowed to give aid to another country.

When we do it, it’s the right and moral thing, and “legal”. When Russia does the exact same thing, it’s a “war crime” and illegal.

Do you realize that was ambiguous and didn't sound more like sarcasm than honest intent, or vice versa. Otherwise, I thought it was worth a response.
Because in this case Russia is giving aid to the other country. They claim the Minsk agreement. Not to say that Russia doesn't have other reasons.

 

[Donald H]

Well according to the globalists and neocons, the US and NATO countries are the only ones allowed to give aid to another country.

When we do it, it’s the right and moral thing, and “legal”. When Russia does the exact same thing, it’s a “war crime” and illegal.

O.k. Hawk, I get your intent this time.

 

[bripat9643]

an American voice that is going to be hugely resented but still heard.

Daniel Kovalik: Why Russia's intervention in Ukraine is legal under international law

Russia’s incursion in Ukraine is more justified under the “right to protect” than what the West has done in the past

www.rt.com

Completely against the grain of the propaganda blitz.

What's the source of your information? RT - Russian Television.

It's obvious propaganda.

How does it feel to be such a gigantic sucker?

 

[bripat9643]

Do you realize that was ambiguous and didn't sound more like sarcasm than honest intent, or vice versa. Otherwise, I thought it was worth a response.
Because in this case Russia is giving aid to the other country. They claim the Minsk agreement. Not to say that Russia doesn't have other reasons.

Russia is giving aid to thugs and terrorists.

Ethnic Russians living in Ukraine are no more entitled to split off and form their own country or join another one any more than Hispanics are entitled to split off Texas and join Mexico.

 

[bripat9643]

Wrong.
Zelensky committed half a dozen acts of war, any one of which makes this war legal.
Zelensky stole billions in oil from Russian pipelines,

That's not an act of war. I also haven't seen any evidence for this claim.

violated treaties,

Still not an act of war.

murdered 14k ethnic Russians,

Sounds like Russian propaganda. Where's the evidence?

tried to put NATO nukes on Russia's border,

Not an act of war. We put nukes in Germany, which was on the border of the Warsaw pact.

cut negotiations, etc.

"Cut negotiations?" on what? Since when has that ever been considered an act of war?

The invasion not only was legal, but absolutely necessary and moral.

Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

 

[bripat9643]

No, you were just ignorant.
Countries like China, Korea, Vietnam, Cuba, etc., were not our enemies,

They sure as hell were. They were communist states dedicated to destroying the United States.

but we still paid dictators like Shen Kai Shek, Syngman Rhee, Diem, Batista, to murder and enslave, until Russia helped liberate those people.

So Shen Kai Shek but Mao Tse Tung was a freedom loving believer in democracy?

Dismissed.

Russia "liberated" Vietnam? Cuba? Korea?

Are you serious with this shit?

Russia did good without intent of profit.
The US bad under the intent of profit.

So when is totalitarianism "good?"

What is bad about profit? Look at everything you own. It was all created with profit as a motive.

The US is the most fascist country in the entire world.
Fascism is a coalition of the corrupt wealthy elite.

You don't know what fascism is

 

[bripat9643]

As opposed to your propaganda that paints the Ukrainian government as saints. A government created by a violent insurrection and coup in 2014. A government that refuses to let the eastern provinces choose to become independent. But don’t bother acknowledging the recent history of Ukraine, just grab your Ukrainian flag and waive it like a good sheep.

in 1861 the federal government refused to allow our Southern provinces to become independent. How do you defend that, but condemn Ukraine for doing the exact same thing?

 

[bripat9643]

I served in the military long ago when we knew Russia was our enemy. You jerks thinking they are somehow not still a threat to us and the rest of free world is a clear indication of what you fascists think of the free world these days.

Dims didn't believe Russia was our enemy.

 

[bripat9643]

Your link:

"...as an American, I have had ample occasion to do so given that the US is, as Martin Luther King stated, 'the greatest purveyor of violence in the world.'

"Similarly, Jimmy Carter recently stated that the US is 'the most war-like nation in the history of the world'”

"This is demonstrably true, of course. In my lifetime alone, the US has waged aggressive and unprovoked wars against countries such as Vietnam, Grenada, Panama, the former Yugoslavia, Iraq (twice), Afghanistan, Libya, and Somalia. And this doesn’t even count the numerous proxy wars the US has fought via surrogates (e.g., through the Contras in Nicaragua, various jihadist groups in Syria, and through Saudi Arabia and the UAE in the ongoing war against Yemen)."

In addition to demonizing one side of a conflict, it is also required to deify the other:

"One less traitor": Zelensky oversees campaign of assassination, kidnapping and torture of political opposition - The Grayzone

"While claiming to defend democracy, Ukraine’s Volodymyr Zelensky has outlawed his opposition, ordered his rivals’ arrest, and presided over the disappearance and assassination of dissidents across the country."​

Lincoln did the same thing, and Dims all approve of it.

 

[eagle1462010]

Russia can get on these nuts.

They are after beach front property on the Black sea.

Hope they get a Tsunamibin Odessa

 

[Rigby5]

Russian leaders and people have always been in love with conquest and empire. Seems you are giving them a free pass on that fact. Last time they owned Ukraine it was a slave state with no autonomy and brutal oppression. People absolutely starved on the richest farmland in the world. The Ukrainian people have every right to resist enslavement and we have a moral imperative to help them.

Wrong.
The point of conquest and empires is profit, wealth, slaves, booty, etc.
Russia never got a thing.
They never conquered anyone or took any wealth from anyone.

The Russians never enslaved anyone.
And when there was a famine around 1930, it effected everyone in the USSR, not just the Ukraine.

The Ukrainians committed criminal acts and now have to pay for them, because otherwise it will just happen again.
The Ukraine stole over $20 billion in oil, violated treaties, massacred 14k ethnic Russians, tried to put NATO nukes on Russia's border, and cut off negotiations.
Those are all acts of war.
So the Ukraine is the bad guy.

 

[Rigby5]

It didn't have to be but Putin decided they were going to rebuild the Soviet union and restart the cold war. This is the price they are paying. Now get on a plane for Russia and STFU.

Wrong.
The problem is entirely the US, that bribed and bought the government of Kyiv.
They are not the real government, but a military takeover, under the control of the US.

 

[eagle1462010]

Wrong.
The point of conquest and empires is profit, wealth, slaves, booty, etc.
Russia never got a thing.
They never conquered anyone or took any wealth from anyone.

The Russians never enslaved anyone.
And when there was a famine around 1930, it effected everyone in the USSR, not just the Ukraine.

The Ukrainians committed criminal acts and now have to pay for them, because otherwise it will just happen again.
The Ukraine stole over $20 billion in oil, violated treaties, massacred 14k ethnic Russians, tried to put NATO nukes on Russia's border, and cut off negotiations.
Those are all acts of war.
So the Ukraine is the bad guy.

Stalin was a POS. The USSR was an oppressive govt from hell. You suck Ivan