D-Tlaib: ""There’s always kind of a calming feeling, I tell folks, when I think of the Holocaust"

[TrueTT]

How many times do you have to be told, Sobieski?

Palestinian Jews were Jewish inhabitants of Palestine (known in Hebrew as Eretz Israel, the "Land of Israel") prior to the establishment of the modern state of Israel.

Like Native Americans lived before White Americans?

People should have rights to the land they live on.
You think otherwise as a Zionist.

1. The Indians were not 'native.'

2. Those stone-age savages had no concept of ownership of land, or of capitalism, before the European settlers taught them.

3. There is no comparison with Zionist or the indigenous Jews of Israel.

You're a bigoted dunce.

The Native Americans are indigenous.

When are you giving up your house to them?

Instead you support Jewish indigenous rights, because you're a hypocrite Zionist.

"The Native Americans are indigenous."





Watch how easily I prove you an imbecile.



We should never allow the Left to control the language, as they corrupt it.

The American Indians were not ‘native’ to this continent. Any study of same….not government school….will prove that the ‘Indians’ migrated over the Bering land bridge from my home continent.

The Asian visitors settled in the northwest, moved down the west coast, and on to South America.


Hence, as much settlers as were the later Europeans.

Yes.....but they settled a barren land.

Not the same as 1492 and beyond.

 

[PoliticalChic]

D-Tlaib:
"There’s always kind of a calming feeling, I tell folks, when I think of the Holocaust, and the tragedy of the Holocaust."



Welcome to the New Socialist Pro-Tertorist Anti-Semitic Democratic Party...


Rashida Tlaib slammed by House GOP over statement that Holocaust gives her 'kind of a calming feeling'

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Excellent, another fine example of your inability to comprehend or your willingness to lie and spin. Well done ya douche!

Were are the lies?

Is Tlaib a Democrat?

Is she an anti-Semite?

The Democrat Party is now running on full-blown anti-white racism, socialism, infanticide, opposition to free speech, substituting illegal alien voters for the American citizenry, and anti-Semitism… the knuckle-dragging, atavistic pagan party.

 

[TrueTT]

How many times do you have to be told, Sobieski?

Palestinian Jews were Jewish inhabitants of Palestine (known in Hebrew as Eretz Israel, the "Land of Israel") prior to the establishment of the modern state of Israel.

Like Native Americans lived before White Americans?

People should have rights to the land they live on.
You think otherwise as a Zionist.

1. The Indians were not 'native.'

2. Those stone-age savages had no concept of ownership of land, or of capitalism, before the European settlers taught them.

3. There is no comparison with Zionist or the indigenous Jews of Israel.

You're a bigoted dunce.

The Native Americans are indigenous.

When are you giving up your house to them?

Instead you support Jewish indigenous rights, because you're a hypocrite Zionist.

If Native Americans tomorrow possessed the military resources and manpower to stage a revanchist campaign in the United States, then they are wholly within their moral rights to do so.

Just as the Jews were in Palestine in 1948.

You're just jealous that the Jews actually succeeded and managed to pull it off.

God's laws of karma are always in effect. It's poetic and beautiful, even when it isn't.

 

[PoliticalChic]

How many times do you have to be told, Sobieski?

Palestinian Jews were Jewish inhabitants of Palestine (known in Hebrew as Eretz Israel, the "Land of Israel") prior to the establishment of the modern state of Israel.

Like Native Americans lived before White Americans?

People should have rights to the land they live on.
You think otherwise as a Zionist.

1. The Indians were not 'native.'

2. Those stone-age savages had no concept of ownership of land, or of capitalism, before the European settlers taught them.

3. There is no comparison with Zionist or the indigenous Jews of Israel.

You're a bigoted dunce.

The Native Americans are indigenous.

When are you giving up your house to them?

Instead you support Jewish indigenous rights, because you're a hypocrite Zionist.

"The Native Americans are indigenous."





Watch how easily I prove you an imbecile.



We should never allow the Left to control the language, as they corrupt it.

The American Indians were not ‘native’ to this continent. Any study of same….not government school….will prove that the ‘Indians’ migrated over the Bering land bridge from my home continent.

The Asian visitors settled in the northwest, moved down the west coast, and on to South America.


Hence, as much settlers as were the later Europeans.

Yes.....but they settled a barren land.

Not the same as 1492 and beyond.

Who did????


The stone-age savages made the land barren.

They were simply savages.

These were stone age peoples, thousands of years behind the advancement of the European settlers. They moved from one locale to another, using up resources, burning down entire forests, and slaughtering species to the point of extinction.


American Indians were almost certainly responsible for the extinction of many large mammal species:
Until ten thousand years ago an incredible bestiary of mammals roamed North America. These were the so-called mega-fauna, an exotic menagerie that included the woolly mammoth, saber-toothed tiger, giant sloth, giant beaver, camel, horse, two-toed horse,and dire wolf. These were the dominant fauna on this continent for tens of millions of years. Then suddenly and mysteriously they disappeared.
Alton Chase, "Playing God In Yellowstone," p. 100


"The Vore buffalo jump site in Wyoming...was used five times between 1550 and 1690,and holds the remains of 20,000 buffalo. That means 4,000 or more buffalo were killed each time the jump was used. Other buffalo jumps in the West display the remains of as many as 300,000 buffalo. These sites were so numerous, in fact, and held such large deposits of bone, that for many years they were mined as a source of phosphorus for fertilizer!"
Frison, G.C., "Prehistoric Hunters of the High Plains," pp.239-44

 

[PoliticalChic]

How many times do you have to be told, Sobieski?

Palestinian Jews were Jewish inhabitants of Palestine (known in Hebrew as Eretz Israel, the "Land of Israel") prior to the establishment of the modern state of Israel.

Like Native Americans lived before White Americans?

People should have rights to the land they live on.
You think otherwise as a Zionist.

1. The Indians were not 'native.'

2. Those stone-age savages had no concept of ownership of land, or of capitalism, before the European settlers taught them.

3. There is no comparison with Zionist or the indigenous Jews of Israel.

You're a bigoted dunce.

The Native Americans are indigenous.

When are you giving up your house to them?

Instead you support Jewish indigenous rights, because you're a hypocrite Zionist.

If Native Americans tomorrow possessed the military resources and manpower to stage a revanchist campaign in the United States, then they are wholly within their moral rights to do so.

Just as the Jews were in Palestine in 1948.

You're just jealous that the Jews actually succeeded and managed to pull it off.

God's laws of karma are always in effect. It's poetic and beautiful, even when it isn't.

What nonsense......you must be a government school grad. Have you ever read a book?
Do you know what a book is?????



1. Did the colonists steal THEIR land?

"The implications for the Indian question are straightforward. Namely: In the extremely unlikely event that any particular Indian can show that he personally is the rightful heir of a particular Indian who was wrongfully dispossessed of a particular piece of property, the current occupants should hand him the keys to his birthright and vacate the premises. Otherwise the current occupants have the morally strongest claim to their property,and the status quo should continue.

Anything more is just the doctrine of collective guiltmasquerading as a defense of property rights."
Do Indians Rightfully Own America Bryan Caplan EconLog Library of Economics and Liberty




2. "One popular history of Manhattan notes that the Canarsie Indians "dwelt on Long Island, merely trading on Manhattan, and their trickery [in selling what they didn't possess to the Dutch] made it necessary for the white man to buy part of the island over again from the tribes living near Washington Heights. Still more crafty were the Raritans of [Staten Island], for therecords show that Staten Island was sold by these Indians no less than six times."
The Straight Dope How much would the 24 paid for Manhattan be worth in today s money


1626 Peter Minuit purchased the island of Manhattan from the Canarsee Native Americans on May 24, 1626. However, the Canarsee were actually native to Brooklyn, while Manhattan was home instead to the Weckquaesgeek,(Wappnai) who were not pleased by the exchange and later battled the Dutch in Kieft's War. Peter Minuit (1589-1638)



3. And because they had no concept of private property, Indians regularly killed the animals that they hunted to the point of extinction.

 

[TrueTT]

Like Native Americans lived before White Americans?

People should have rights to the land they live on.
You think otherwise as a Zionist.

1. The Indians were not 'native.'

2. Those stone-age savages had no concept of ownership of land, or of capitalism, before the European settlers taught them.

3. There is no comparison with Zionist or the indigenous Jews of Israel.

You're a bigoted dunce.

The Native Americans are indigenous.

When are you giving up your house to them?

Instead you support Jewish indigenous rights, because you're a hypocrite Zionist.

"The Native Americans are indigenous."





Watch how easily I prove you an imbecile.



We should never allow the Left to control the language, as they corrupt it.

The American Indians were not ‘native’ to this continent. Any study of same….not government school….will prove that the ‘Indians’ migrated over the Bering land bridge from my home continent.

The Asian visitors settled in the northwest, moved down the west coast, and on to South America.


Hence, as much settlers as were the later Europeans.

Yes.....but they settled a barren land.

Not the same as 1492 and beyond.

Who did????


The stone-age savages made the land barren.

They were simply savages.

These were stone age peoples, thousands of years behind the advancement of the European settlers. They moved from one locale to another, using up resources, burning down entire forests, and slaughtering species to the point of extinction.


American Indians were almost certainly responsible for the extinction of many large mammal species:
Until ten thousand years ago an incredible bestiary of mammals roamed North America. These were the so-called mega-fauna, an exotic menagerie that included the woolly mammoth, saber-toothed tiger, giant sloth, giant beaver, camel, horse, two-toed horse,and dire wolf. These were the dominant fauna on this continent for tens of millions of years. Then suddenly and mysteriously they disappeared.
Alton Chase, "Playing God In Yellowstone," p. 100


"The Vore buffalo jump site in Wyoming...was used five times between 1550 and 1690,and holds the remains of 20,000 buffalo. That means 4,000 or more buffalo were killed each time the jump was used. Other buffalo jumps in the West display the remains of as many as 300,000 buffalo. These sites were so numerous, in fact, and held such large deposits of bone, that for many years they were mined as a source of phosphorus for fertilizer!"
Frison, G.C., "Prehistoric Hunters of the High Plains," pp.239-44

Like Native Americans lived before White Americans?

People should have rights to the land they live on.
You think otherwise as a Zionist.

1. The Indians were not 'native.'

2. Those stone-age savages had no concept of ownership of land, or of capitalism, before the European settlers taught them.

3. There is no comparison with Zionist or the indigenous Jews of Israel.

You're a bigoted dunce.

The Native Americans are indigenous.

When are you giving up your house to them?

Instead you support Jewish indigenous rights, because you're a hypocrite Zionist.

"The Native Americans are indigenous."





Watch how easily I prove you an imbecile.



We should never allow the Left to control the language, as they corrupt it.

The American Indians were not ‘native’ to this continent. Any study of same….not government school….will prove that the ‘Indians’ migrated over the Bering land bridge from my home continent.

The Asian visitors settled in the northwest, moved down the west coast, and on to South America.


Hence, as much settlers as were the later Europeans.

Yes.....but they settled a barren land.

Not the same as 1492 and beyond.

Who did????


The stone-age savages made the land barren.

They were simply savages.

These were stone age peoples, thousands of years behind the advancement of the European settlers. They moved from one locale to another, using up resources, burning down entire forests, and slaughtering species to the point of extinction.


American Indians were almost certainly responsible for the extinction of many large mammal species:
Until ten thousand years ago an incredible bestiary of mammals roamed North America. These were the so-called mega-fauna, an exotic menagerie that included the woolly mammoth, saber-toothed tiger, giant sloth, giant beaver, camel, horse, two-toed horse,and dire wolf. These were the dominant fauna on this continent for tens of millions of years. Then suddenly and mysteriously they disappeared.
Alton Chase, "Playing God In Yellowstone," p. 100


"The Vore buffalo jump site in Wyoming...was used five times between 1550 and 1690,and holds the remains of 20,000 buffalo. That means 4,000 or more buffalo were killed each time the jump was used. Other buffalo jumps in the West display the remains of as many as 300,000 buffalo. These sites were so numerous, in fact, and held such large deposits of bone, that for many years they were mined as a source of phosphorus for fertilizer!"
Frison, G.C., "Prehistoric Hunters of the High Plains," pp.239-44

Thanks Miss.

But I’m more curious to know which race or community of humans they conquered to take possession of the hemisphere.

Not how many trees they cut down.

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. The Indians were not 'native.'

2. Those stone-age savages had no concept of ownership of land, or of capitalism, before the European settlers taught them.

3. There is no comparison with Zionist or the indigenous Jews of Israel.

You're a bigoted dunce.

The Native Americans are indigenous.

When are you giving up your house to them?

Instead you support Jewish indigenous rights, because you're a hypocrite Zionist.

"The Native Americans are indigenous."





Watch how easily I prove you an imbecile.



We should never allow the Left to control the language, as they corrupt it.

The American Indians were not ‘native’ to this continent. Any study of same….not government school….will prove that the ‘Indians’ migrated over the Bering land bridge from my home continent.

The Asian visitors settled in the northwest, moved down the west coast, and on to South America.


Hence, as much settlers as were the later Europeans.

Yes.....but they settled a barren land.

Not the same as 1492 and beyond.

Who did????


The stone-age savages made the land barren.

They were simply savages.

These were stone age peoples, thousands of years behind the advancement of the European settlers. They moved from one locale to another, using up resources, burning down entire forests, and slaughtering species to the point of extinction.


American Indians were almost certainly responsible for the extinction of many large mammal species:
Until ten thousand years ago an incredible bestiary of mammals roamed North America. These were the so-called mega-fauna, an exotic menagerie that included the woolly mammoth, saber-toothed tiger, giant sloth, giant beaver, camel, horse, two-toed horse,and dire wolf. These were the dominant fauna on this continent for tens of millions of years. Then suddenly and mysteriously they disappeared.
Alton Chase, "Playing God In Yellowstone," p. 100


"The Vore buffalo jump site in Wyoming...was used five times between 1550 and 1690,and holds the remains of 20,000 buffalo. That means 4,000 or more buffalo were killed each time the jump was used. Other buffalo jumps in the West display the remains of as many as 300,000 buffalo. These sites were so numerous, in fact, and held such large deposits of bone, that for many years they were mined as a source of phosphorus for fertilizer!"
Frison, G.C., "Prehistoric Hunters of the High Plains," pp.239-44

1. The Indians were not 'native.'

2. Those stone-age savages had no concept of ownership of land, or of capitalism, before the European settlers taught them.

3. There is no comparison with Zionist or the indigenous Jews of Israel.

You're a bigoted dunce.

The Native Americans are indigenous.

When are you giving up your house to them?

Instead you support Jewish indigenous rights, because you're a hypocrite Zionist.

"The Native Americans are indigenous."





Watch how easily I prove you an imbecile.



We should never allow the Left to control the language, as they corrupt it.

The American Indians were not ‘native’ to this continent. Any study of same….not government school….will prove that the ‘Indians’ migrated over the Bering land bridge from my home continent.

The Asian visitors settled in the northwest, moved down the west coast, and on to South America.


Hence, as much settlers as were the later Europeans.

Yes.....but they settled a barren land.

Not the same as 1492 and beyond.

Who did????


The stone-age savages made the land barren.

They were simply savages.

These were stone age peoples, thousands of years behind the advancement of the European settlers. They moved from one locale to another, using up resources, burning down entire forests, and slaughtering species to the point of extinction.


American Indians were almost certainly responsible for the extinction of many large mammal species:
Until ten thousand years ago an incredible bestiary of mammals roamed North America. These were the so-called mega-fauna, an exotic menagerie that included the woolly mammoth, saber-toothed tiger, giant sloth, giant beaver, camel, horse, two-toed horse,and dire wolf. These were the dominant fauna on this continent for tens of millions of years. Then suddenly and mysteriously they disappeared.
Alton Chase, "Playing God In Yellowstone," p. 100


"The Vore buffalo jump site in Wyoming...was used five times between 1550 and 1690,and holds the remains of 20,000 buffalo. That means 4,000 or more buffalo were killed each time the jump was used. Other buffalo jumps in the West display the remains of as many as 300,000 buffalo. These sites were so numerous, in fact, and held such large deposits of bone, that for many years they were mined as a source of phosphorus for fertilizer!"
Frison, G.C., "Prehistoric Hunters of the High Plains," pp.239-44

Thanks Miss.

But I’m more curious to know which race or community of humans they conquered to take possession of the hemisphere.

Not how many trees they cut down.

I'll say it again....verrrrrryyyy sloooooowly:


The Indians moved from Asia via what was then a land bridge.
They were settlers to this continent as were the Europeans.


Hence...not 'native.'

They destroyed resources, burned down forests to more easily see their prey....and then moved on to another venue.

Land was not a 'possession' to Indians.....until the Europeans brought capitalism, and taught them the value of the land.

They were three thousand years behind the Europeans in understanding.

Get it?

 

[TrueTT]

How many times do you have to be told, Sobieski?

Palestinian Jews were Jewish inhabitants of Palestine (known in Hebrew as Eretz Israel, the "Land of Israel") prior to the establishment of the modern state of Israel.

Like Native Americans lived before White Americans?

People should have rights to the land they live on.
You think otherwise as a Zionist.

1. The Indians were not 'native.'

2. Those stone-age savages had no concept of ownership of land, or of capitalism, before the European settlers taught them.

3. There is no comparison with Zionist or the indigenous Jews of Israel.

You're a bigoted dunce.

The Native Americans are indigenous.

When are you giving up your house to them?

Instead you support Jewish indigenous rights, because you're a hypocrite Zionist.

If Native Americans tomorrow possessed the military resources and manpower to stage a revanchist campaign in the United States, then they are wholly within their moral rights to do so.

Just as the Jews were in Palestine in 1948.

You're just jealous that the Jews actually succeeded and managed to pull it off.

God's laws of karma are always in effect. It's poetic and beautiful, even when it isn't.

What nonsense......you must be a government school grad. Have you ever read a book?
Do you know what a book is?????



1. Did the colonists steal THEIR land?

"The implications for the Indian question are straightforward. Namely: In the extremely unlikely event that any particular Indian can show that he personally is the rightful heir of a particular Indian who was wrongfully dispossessed of a particular piece of property, the current occupants should hand him the keys to his birthright and vacate the premises. Otherwise the current occupants have the morally strongest claim to their property,and the status quo should continue.

Anything more is just the doctrine of collective guiltmasquerading as a defense of property rights."
Do Indians Rightfully Own America Bryan Caplan EconLog Library of Economics and Liberty




2. "One popular history of Manhattan notes that the Canarsie Indians "dwelt on Long Island, merely trading on Manhattan, and their trickery [in selling what they didn't possess to the Dutch] made it necessary for the white man to buy part of the island over again from the tribes living near Washington Heights. Still more crafty were the Raritans of [Staten Island], for therecords show that Staten Island was sold by these Indians no less than six times."
The Straight Dope How much would the 24 paid for Manhattan be worth in today s money


1626 Peter Minuit purchased the island of Manhattan from the Canarsee Native Americans on May 24, 1626. However, the Canarsee were actually native to Brooklyn, while Manhattan was home instead to the Weckquaesgeek,(Wappnai) who were not pleased by the exchange and later battled the Dutch in Kieft's War. Peter Minuit (1589-1638)



3. And because they had no concept of private property, Indians regularly killed the animals that they hunted to the point of extinction.

I’m not discussing transactional exchanges and land acquisitions.

I speak strictly of the wars of conquest and the lands annexed or incorporated as a result. The Indian wars.

PS: you don’t need to have a concept of private property to protest the idea of being uprooted from your original land base/ forcibly made to move elsewhere.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Like Native Americans lived before White Americans?

People should have rights to the land they live on.
You think otherwise as a Zionist.

1. The Indians were not 'native.'

2. Those stone-age savages had no concept of ownership of land, or of capitalism, before the European settlers taught them.

3. There is no comparison with Zionist or the indigenous Jews of Israel.

You're a bigoted dunce.

The Native Americans are indigenous.

When are you giving up your house to them?

Instead you support Jewish indigenous rights, because you're a hypocrite Zionist.

If Native Americans tomorrow possessed the military resources and manpower to stage a revanchist campaign in the United States, then they are wholly within their moral rights to do so.

Just as the Jews were in Palestine in 1948.

You're just jealous that the Jews actually succeeded and managed to pull it off.

God's laws of karma are always in effect. It's poetic and beautiful, even when it isn't.

What nonsense......you must be a government school grad. Have you ever read a book?
Do you know what a book is?????



1. Did the colonists steal THEIR land?

"The implications for the Indian question are straightforward. Namely: In the extremely unlikely event that any particular Indian can show that he personally is the rightful heir of a particular Indian who was wrongfully dispossessed of a particular piece of property, the current occupants should hand him the keys to his birthright and vacate the premises. Otherwise the current occupants have the morally strongest claim to their property,and the status quo should continue.

Anything more is just the doctrine of collective guiltmasquerading as a defense of property rights."
Do Indians Rightfully Own America Bryan Caplan EconLog Library of Economics and Liberty




2. "One popular history of Manhattan notes that the Canarsie Indians "dwelt on Long Island, merely trading on Manhattan, and their trickery [in selling what they didn't possess to the Dutch] made it necessary for the white man to buy part of the island over again from the tribes living near Washington Heights. Still more crafty were the Raritans of [Staten Island], for therecords show that Staten Island was sold by these Indians no less than six times."
The Straight Dope How much would the 24 paid for Manhattan be worth in today s money


1626 Peter Minuit purchased the island of Manhattan from the Canarsee Native Americans on May 24, 1626. However, the Canarsee were actually native to Brooklyn, while Manhattan was home instead to the Weckquaesgeek,(Wappnai) who were not pleased by the exchange and later battled the Dutch in Kieft's War. Peter Minuit (1589-1638)



3. And because they had no concept of private property, Indians regularly killed the animals that they hunted to the point of extinction.

I’m not discussing transactional exchanges and land acquisitions.

I speak strictly of the wars of conquest and the lands annexed or incorporated as a result. The Indian wars.

PS: you don’t need to have a concept of private property to protest the idea of being uprooted from your original land base/ forcibly made to move elsewhere.

They weren't 'uprooted,' you dunce.

They migrated from one place to another, and slaughtered any in their way.


"Many thousands of years before Christopher Columbus’ ships landed in the Bahamas, a different group of people discovered America: the nomadic ancestors of modern Native Americans who hiked over a “land bridge” from Asia to what is now Alaska more than 12,000 years ago. In fact, by the time European adventurers arrived in the 15th century A.D., scholars estimate that more than 50 million people were already living in the Americas. Of these, some 10 million lived in the area that would become the United States. As time passed, these migrants and their descendants ....."
https://www.history.com/topics/native-american-history/native-american-cultures



I bet some nice adult will help you get a library card......




BTW......Go Rangers!!!

 

[TrueTT]

The Native Americans are indigenous.

When are you giving up your house to them?

Instead you support Jewish indigenous rights, because you're a hypocrite Zionist.

"The Native Americans are indigenous."





Watch how easily I prove you an imbecile.



We should never allow the Left to control the language, as they corrupt it.

The American Indians were not ‘native’ to this continent. Any study of same….not government school….will prove that the ‘Indians’ migrated over the Bering land bridge from my home continent.

The Asian visitors settled in the northwest, moved down the west coast, and on to South America.


Hence, as much settlers as were the later Europeans.

Yes.....but they settled a barren land.

Not the same as 1492 and beyond.

Who did????


The stone-age savages made the land barren.

They were simply savages.

These were stone age peoples, thousands of years behind the advancement of the European settlers. They moved from one locale to another, using up resources, burning down entire forests, and slaughtering species to the point of extinction.


American Indians were almost certainly responsible for the extinction of many large mammal species:
Until ten thousand years ago an incredible bestiary of mammals roamed North America. These were the so-called mega-fauna, an exotic menagerie that included the woolly mammoth, saber-toothed tiger, giant sloth, giant beaver, camel, horse, two-toed horse,and dire wolf. These were the dominant fauna on this continent for tens of millions of years. Then suddenly and mysteriously they disappeared.
Alton Chase, "Playing God In Yellowstone," p. 100


"The Vore buffalo jump site in Wyoming...was used five times between 1550 and 1690,and holds the remains of 20,000 buffalo. That means 4,000 or more buffalo were killed each time the jump was used. Other buffalo jumps in the West display the remains of as many as 300,000 buffalo. These sites were so numerous, in fact, and held such large deposits of bone, that for many years they were mined as a source of phosphorus for fertilizer!"
Frison, G.C., "Prehistoric Hunters of the High Plains," pp.239-44

The Native Americans are indigenous.

When are you giving up your house to them?

Instead you support Jewish indigenous rights, because you're a hypocrite Zionist.

"The Native Americans are indigenous."





Watch how easily I prove you an imbecile.



We should never allow the Left to control the language, as they corrupt it.

The American Indians were not ‘native’ to this continent. Any study of same….not government school….will prove that the ‘Indians’ migrated over the Bering land bridge from my home continent.

The Asian visitors settled in the northwest, moved down the west coast, and on to South America.


Hence, as much settlers as were the later Europeans.

Yes.....but they settled a barren land.

Not the same as 1492 and beyond.

Who did????


The stone-age savages made the land barren.

They were simply savages.

These were stone age peoples, thousands of years behind the advancement of the European settlers. They moved from one locale to another, using up resources, burning down entire forests, and slaughtering species to the point of extinction.


American Indians were almost certainly responsible for the extinction of many large mammal species:
Until ten thousand years ago an incredible bestiary of mammals roamed North America. These were the so-called mega-fauna, an exotic menagerie that included the woolly mammoth, saber-toothed tiger, giant sloth, giant beaver, camel, horse, two-toed horse,and dire wolf. These were the dominant fauna on this continent for tens of millions of years. Then suddenly and mysteriously they disappeared.
Alton Chase, "Playing God In Yellowstone," p. 100


"The Vore buffalo jump site in Wyoming...was used five times between 1550 and 1690,and holds the remains of 20,000 buffalo. That means 4,000 or more buffalo were killed each time the jump was used. Other buffalo jumps in the West display the remains of as many as 300,000 buffalo. These sites were so numerous, in fact, and held such large deposits of bone, that for many years they were mined as a source of phosphorus for fertilizer!"
Frison, G.C., "Prehistoric Hunters of the High Plains," pp.239-44

Thanks Miss.

But I’m more curious to know which race or community of humans they conquered to take possession of the hemisphere.

Not how many trees they cut down.

I'll say it again....verrrrrryyyy sloooooowly:


The Indians moved from Asia via what was then a land bridge.
They were settlers to this continent as were the Europeans.


Hence...not 'native.'

They destroyed resources, burned down forests to more easily see their prey....and then moved on to another venue.

Land was not a 'possession' to Indians.....until the Europeans brought capitalism, and taught them the value of the land.

They were three thousand years behind the Europeans in understanding.

Get it?

Whether land was a coveted concept, thought of as a possession or not is immaterial.

They lost vast territories as a consequence of losing wars to a technologically superior force.

My point is this: If tomorrow they had the means or military might to redress and recoup the lands they conceded in the wars lost (not lands which were sold) in the 19th century....they are morally justified to do so.

Same as the Jews in Palestine being justified to do what they did in 1948. The Nakba is a hoax.

 

[easyt65]

How many times do you have to be told, Sobieski?

Palestinian Jews were Jewish inhabitants of Palestine (known in Hebrew as Eretz Israel, the "Land of Israel") prior to the establishment of the modern state of Israel.

Like Native Americans lived before White Americans?

People should have rights to the land they live on.
You think otherwise as a Zionist.

1. The Indians were not 'native.'

2. Those stone-age savages had no concept of ownership of land, or of capitalism, before the European settlers taught them.

3. There is no comparison with Zionist or the indigenous Jews of Israel.

You're a bigoted dunce.

The Native Americans are indigenous.

When are you giving up your house to them?

Instead you support Jewish indigenous rights, because you're a hypocrite Zionist.

If Native Americans tomorrow possessed the military resources and manpower to stage a revanchist campaign in the United States, then they are wholly within their moral rights to do so.

Just as the Jews were in Palestine in 1948.

You're just jealous that the Jews actually succeeded and managed to pull it off.

God's laws of karma are always in effect. It's poetic and beautiful, even when it isn't.

What nonsense......you must be a government school grad. Have you ever read a book?
Do you know what a book is?????



1. Did the colonists steal THEIR land?

"The implications for the Indian question are straightforward. Namely: In the extremely unlikely event that any particular Indian can show that he personally is the rightful heir of a particular Indian who was wrongfully dispossessed of a particular piece of property, the current occupants should hand him the keys to his birthright and vacate the premises. Otherwise the current occupants have the morally strongest claim to their property,and the status quo should continue.

Anything more is just the doctrine of collective guiltmasquerading as a defense of property rights."
Do Indians Rightfully Own America Bryan Caplan EconLog Library of Economics and Liberty




2. "One popular history of Manhattan notes that the Canarsie Indians "dwelt on Long Island, merely trading on Manhattan, and their trickery [in selling what they didn't possess to the Dutch] made it necessary for the white man to buy part of the island over again from the tribes living near Washington Heights. Still more crafty were the Raritans of [Staten Island], for therecords show that Staten Island was sold by these Indians no less than six times."
The Straight Dope How much would the 24 paid for Manhattan be worth in today s money


1626 Peter Minuit purchased the island of Manhattan from the Canarsee Native Americans on May 24, 1626. However, the Canarsee were actually native to Brooklyn, while Manhattan was home instead to the Weckquaesgeek,(Wappnai) who were not pleased by the exchange and later battled the Dutch in Kieft's War. Peter Minuit (1589-1638)



3. And because they had no concept of private property, Indians regularly killed the animals that they hunted to the point of extinction.

'For the record' Native Americans did not believe they / we 'owned the land'. Tribes did protect territory (having to do more with resources hunting grounds, etc...), but it was the greedy white man who wanted to 'own' land, kill more than they could eat for profit (leaving dead buffalo carcasses littering the plains just for their hides, etc..). Of course, the Indians did sell a bunch of rube white people what is now Manhattan for a bunch of beads and junk - the joke was on them. As stated, those Indians didn't even own that land...

 

[PoliticalChic]

"The Native Americans are indigenous."





Watch how easily I prove you an imbecile.



We should never allow the Left to control the language, as they corrupt it.

The American Indians were not ‘native’ to this continent. Any study of same….not government school….will prove that the ‘Indians’ migrated over the Bering land bridge from my home continent.

The Asian visitors settled in the northwest, moved down the west coast, and on to South America.


Hence, as much settlers as were the later Europeans.

Yes.....but they settled a barren land.

Not the same as 1492 and beyond.

Who did????


The stone-age savages made the land barren.

They were simply savages.

These were stone age peoples, thousands of years behind the advancement of the European settlers. They moved from one locale to another, using up resources, burning down entire forests, and slaughtering species to the point of extinction.


American Indians were almost certainly responsible for the extinction of many large mammal species:
Until ten thousand years ago an incredible bestiary of mammals roamed North America. These were the so-called mega-fauna, an exotic menagerie that included the woolly mammoth, saber-toothed tiger, giant sloth, giant beaver, camel, horse, two-toed horse,and dire wolf. These were the dominant fauna on this continent for tens of millions of years. Then suddenly and mysteriously they disappeared.
Alton Chase, "Playing God In Yellowstone," p. 100


"The Vore buffalo jump site in Wyoming...was used five times between 1550 and 1690,and holds the remains of 20,000 buffalo. That means 4,000 or more buffalo were killed each time the jump was used. Other buffalo jumps in the West display the remains of as many as 300,000 buffalo. These sites were so numerous, in fact, and held such large deposits of bone, that for many years they were mined as a source of phosphorus for fertilizer!"
Frison, G.C., "Prehistoric Hunters of the High Plains," pp.239-44

"The Native Americans are indigenous."





Watch how easily I prove you an imbecile.



We should never allow the Left to control the language, as they corrupt it.

The American Indians were not ‘native’ to this continent. Any study of same….not government school….will prove that the ‘Indians’ migrated over the Bering land bridge from my home continent.

The Asian visitors settled in the northwest, moved down the west coast, and on to South America.


Hence, as much settlers as were the later Europeans.

Yes.....but they settled a barren land.

Not the same as 1492 and beyond.

Who did????


The stone-age savages made the land barren.

They were simply savages.

These were stone age peoples, thousands of years behind the advancement of the European settlers. They moved from one locale to another, using up resources, burning down entire forests, and slaughtering species to the point of extinction.


American Indians were almost certainly responsible for the extinction of many large mammal species:
Until ten thousand years ago an incredible bestiary of mammals roamed North America. These were the so-called mega-fauna, an exotic menagerie that included the woolly mammoth, saber-toothed tiger, giant sloth, giant beaver, camel, horse, two-toed horse,and dire wolf. These were the dominant fauna on this continent for tens of millions of years. Then suddenly and mysteriously they disappeared.
Alton Chase, "Playing God In Yellowstone," p. 100


"The Vore buffalo jump site in Wyoming...was used five times between 1550 and 1690,and holds the remains of 20,000 buffalo. That means 4,000 or more buffalo were killed each time the jump was used. Other buffalo jumps in the West display the remains of as many as 300,000 buffalo. These sites were so numerous, in fact, and held such large deposits of bone, that for many years they were mined as a source of phosphorus for fertilizer!"
Frison, G.C., "Prehistoric Hunters of the High Plains," pp.239-44

Thanks Miss.

But I’m more curious to know which race or community of humans they conquered to take possession of the hemisphere.

Not how many trees they cut down.

I'll say it again....verrrrrryyyy sloooooowly:


The Indians moved from Asia via what was then a land bridge.
They were settlers to this continent as were the Europeans.


Hence...not 'native.'

They destroyed resources, burned down forests to more easily see their prey....and then moved on to another venue.

Land was not a 'possession' to Indians.....until the Europeans brought capitalism, and taught them the value of the land.

They were three thousand years behind the Europeans in understanding.

Get it?

Whether land was a coveted concept, thought of as a possession or not is immaterial.

They lost vast territories as a consequence of losing wars to a technologically superior force.

My point is this: If tomorrow they had the means or military might to redress and recoup the lands they conceded in the wars lost (not lands which were sold) in the 19th century....they are morally justified to do so.

Same as the Jews in Palestine being justified to do what they did in 1948. The Nakba is a hoax.

OMG!!!!



How could they 'lose' what they never owned????????



On the other hand....you are perfectly correct about Jews and the Nakba.

The two situations are not comparable.....the Jews bought the land.

 

[easyt65]

1. The Indians were not 'native.'

2. Those stone-age savages had no concept of ownership of land, or of capitalism, before the European settlers taught them.

3. There is no comparison with Zionist or the indigenous Jews of Israel.

You're a bigoted dunce.

The Native Americans are indigenous.

When are you giving up your house to them?

Instead you support Jewish indigenous rights, because you're a hypocrite Zionist.

If Native Americans tomorrow possessed the military resources and manpower to stage a revanchist campaign in the United States, then they are wholly within their moral rights to do so.

Just as the Jews were in Palestine in 1948.

You're just jealous that the Jews actually succeeded and managed to pull it off.

God's laws of karma are always in effect. It's poetic and beautiful, even when it isn't.

What nonsense......you must be a government school grad. Have you ever read a book?
Do you know what a book is?????



1. Did the colonists steal THEIR land?

"The implications for the Indian question are straightforward. Namely: In the extremely unlikely event that any particular Indian can show that he personally is the rightful heir of a particular Indian who was wrongfully dispossessed of a particular piece of property, the current occupants should hand him the keys to his birthright and vacate the premises. Otherwise the current occupants have the morally strongest claim to their property,and the status quo should continue.

Anything more is just the doctrine of collective guiltmasquerading as a defense of property rights."
Do Indians Rightfully Own America Bryan Caplan EconLog Library of Economics and Liberty




2. "One popular history of Manhattan notes that the Canarsie Indians "dwelt on Long Island, merely trading on Manhattan, and their trickery [in selling what they didn't possess to the Dutch] made it necessary for the white man to buy part of the island over again from the tribes living near Washington Heights. Still more crafty were the Raritans of [Staten Island], for therecords show that Staten Island was sold by these Indians no less than six times."
The Straight Dope How much would the 24 paid for Manhattan be worth in today s money


1626 Peter Minuit purchased the island of Manhattan from the Canarsee Native Americans on May 24, 1626. However, the Canarsee were actually native to Brooklyn, while Manhattan was home instead to the Weckquaesgeek,(Wappnai) who were not pleased by the exchange and later battled the Dutch in Kieft's War. Peter Minuit (1589-1638)



3. And because they had no concept of private property, Indians regularly killed the animals that they hunted to the point of extinction.

I’m not discussing transactional exchanges and land acquisitions.

I speak strictly of the wars of conquest and the lands annexed or incorporated as a result. The Indian wars.

PS: you don’t need to have a concept of private property to protest the idea of being uprooted from your original land base/ forcibly made to move elsewhere.

They weren't 'uprooted,' you dunce.

They migrated from one place to another, and slaughtered any in their way.


"Many thousands of years before Christopher Columbus’ ships landed in the Bahamas, a different group of people discovered America: the nomadic ancestors of modern Native Americans who hiked over a “land bridge” from Asia to what is now Alaska more than 12,000 years ago. In fact, by the time European adventurers arrived in the 15th century A.D., scholars estimate that more than 50 million people were already living in the Americas. Of these, some 10 million lived in the area that would become the United States. As time passed, these migrants and their descendants ....."
https://www.history.com/topics/native-american-history/native-american-cultures



I bet some nice adult will help you get a library card......




BTW......Go Rangers!!!

It's funny how white people claim they 'discovered America'. We Native Americans already living here had no idea you people thought it was 'lost'. And 'OBTW', Leif Ericson and the Vikings had 'discovered' America (not the Bahamas) long before Chris landed there, enslaved most of the population and killed many more off with the introduction of their 'foreign' diseases'. (Personally I think 'Columbus Day' should be replaced with 'Leif Ericson Day - who would not rather run around drinking, 'raping, pillaging, and plundering' and wearing Viking horns?!)

 

[TrueTT]

1. The Indians were not 'native.'

2. Those stone-age savages had no concept of ownership of land, or of capitalism, before the European settlers taught them.

3. There is no comparison with Zionist or the indigenous Jews of Israel.

You're a bigoted dunce.

The Native Americans are indigenous.

When are you giving up your house to them?

Instead you support Jewish indigenous rights, because you're a hypocrite Zionist.

If Native Americans tomorrow possessed the military resources and manpower to stage a revanchist campaign in the United States, then they are wholly within their moral rights to do so.

Just as the Jews were in Palestine in 1948.

You're just jealous that the Jews actually succeeded and managed to pull it off.

God's laws of karma are always in effect. It's poetic and beautiful, even when it isn't.

What nonsense......you must be a government school grad. Have you ever read a book?
Do you know what a book is?????



1. Did the colonists steal THEIR land?

"The implications for the Indian question are straightforward. Namely: In the extremely unlikely event that any particular Indian can show that he personally is the rightful heir of a particular Indian who was wrongfully dispossessed of a particular piece of property, the current occupants should hand him the keys to his birthright and vacate the premises. Otherwise the current occupants have the morally strongest claim to their property,and the status quo should continue.

Anything more is just the doctrine of collective guiltmasquerading as a defense of property rights."
Do Indians Rightfully Own America Bryan Caplan EconLog Library of Economics and Liberty




2. "One popular history of Manhattan notes that the Canarsie Indians "dwelt on Long Island, merely trading on Manhattan, and their trickery [in selling what they didn't possess to the Dutch] made it necessary for the white man to buy part of the island over again from the tribes living near Washington Heights. Still more crafty were the Raritans of [Staten Island], for therecords show that Staten Island was sold by these Indians no less than six times."
The Straight Dope How much would the 24 paid for Manhattan be worth in today s money


1626 Peter Minuit purchased the island of Manhattan from the Canarsee Native Americans on May 24, 1626. However, the Canarsee were actually native to Brooklyn, while Manhattan was home instead to the Weckquaesgeek,(Wappnai) who were not pleased by the exchange and later battled the Dutch in Kieft's War. Peter Minuit (1589-1638)



3. And because they had no concept of private property, Indians regularly killed the animals that they hunted to the point of extinction.

I’m not discussing transactional exchanges and land acquisitions.

I speak strictly of the wars of conquest and the lands annexed or incorporated as a result. The Indian wars.

PS: you don’t need to have a concept of private property to protest the idea of being uprooted from your original land base/ forcibly made to move elsewhere.

They weren't 'uprooted,' you dunce.

They migrated from one place to another, and slaughtered any in their way.


"Many thousands of years before Christopher Columbus’ ships landed in the Bahamas, a different group of people discovered America: the nomadic ancestors of modern Native Americans who hiked over a “land bridge” from Asia to what is now Alaska more than 12,000 years ago. In fact, by the time European adventurers arrived in the 15th century A.D., scholars estimate that more than 50 million people were already living in the Americas. Of these, some 10 million lived in the area that would become the United States. As time passed, these migrants and their descendants ....."
https://www.history.com/topics/native-american-history/native-american-cultures



I bet some nice adult will help you get a library card......




BTW......Go Rangers!!!

Hahahahaha.

The Battle of Horseshoe Bend resulted in Andrew Jackson foisting a treaty upon the Creek: 23 million acres of land were seized.

But lemme guess, because the Natives didn’t have laws establishing domain over and upholding private property rights- this doesn’t count??

The Rangers are a dysfunctional mess. Please continue your support LOL.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Like Native Americans lived before White Americans?

People should have rights to the land they live on.
You think otherwise as a Zionist.

1. The Indians were not 'native.'

2. Those stone-age savages had no concept of ownership of land, or of capitalism, before the European settlers taught them.

3. There is no comparison with Zionist or the indigenous Jews of Israel.

You're a bigoted dunce.

The Native Americans are indigenous.

When are you giving up your house to them?

Instead you support Jewish indigenous rights, because you're a hypocrite Zionist.

If Native Americans tomorrow possessed the military resources and manpower to stage a revanchist campaign in the United States, then they are wholly within their moral rights to do so.

Just as the Jews were in Palestine in 1948.

You're just jealous that the Jews actually succeeded and managed to pull it off.

God's laws of karma are always in effect. It's poetic and beautiful, even when it isn't.

What nonsense......you must be a government school grad. Have you ever read a book?
Do you know what a book is?????



1. Did the colonists steal THEIR land?

"The implications for the Indian question are straightforward. Namely: In the extremely unlikely event that any particular Indian can show that he personally is the rightful heir of a particular Indian who was wrongfully dispossessed of a particular piece of property, the current occupants should hand him the keys to his birthright and vacate the premises. Otherwise the current occupants have the morally strongest claim to their property,and the status quo should continue.

Anything more is just the doctrine of collective guiltmasquerading as a defense of property rights."
Do Indians Rightfully Own America Bryan Caplan EconLog Library of Economics and Liberty




2. "One popular history of Manhattan notes that the Canarsie Indians "dwelt on Long Island, merely trading on Manhattan, and their trickery [in selling what they didn't possess to the Dutch] made it necessary for the white man to buy part of the island over again from the tribes living near Washington Heights. Still more crafty were the Raritans of [Staten Island], for therecords show that Staten Island was sold by these Indians no less than six times."
The Straight Dope How much would the 24 paid for Manhattan be worth in today s money


1626 Peter Minuit purchased the island of Manhattan from the Canarsee Native Americans on May 24, 1626. However, the Canarsee were actually native to Brooklyn, while Manhattan was home instead to the Weckquaesgeek,(Wappnai) who were not pleased by the exchange and later battled the Dutch in Kieft's War. Peter Minuit (1589-1638)



3. And because they had no concept of private property, Indians regularly killed the animals that they hunted to the point of extinction.

'For the record' Native Americans did not believe they / we 'owned the land'. Tribes did protect territory (having to do more with resources hunting grounds, etc...), but it was the greedy white man who wanted to 'own' land, kill more than they could eat for profit (leaving dead buffalo carcasses littering the plains just for their hides, etc..). Of course, the Indians did sell a bunch of rube white people what is now Manhattan for a bunch of beads and junk - the joke was on them. As stated, those Indians didn't even own that land...

"According to the myth of the noble eco-savage, indigenous peoples live in such a sympathetic relationship with the ecosystem that they only kill for their immediate needs, and never on a scale likely to drive species to extinction.... In fact, these ‘cultural mechanisms’ exist primarily in the minds of Western environmentalists.

It is difficult to find any evidence of them amongst the tribal peoples, either now or in the past.... The aim was to kill as much as possible as quickly as possible, with the minimum risk to the hunter. There was no concern for conserving future stocks, nor for taking only as much as was necessary to meet present needs."
Whelan, "Wild in the Woods: The Myth of the Noble Eco-Savage"



A favorite Indian device was the ‘jump’, which meant stampeding herds of animalsover a cliff, so that the fall would kill them, described in "Playing God in Yellowstone," by Alston Chase.

"The Vore buffalo jump site in Wyoming...was used five times between 1550 and 1690, and holds the remains of 20,000 buffalo. That means 4,000 or more buffalo were killed each time the jump was used. Other buffalo jumps in the West displaythe remains of as many as 300,000 buffalo. These sites were so numerous, in fact, and held such large deposits of bone, that for many years they were mined as a source of phosphorus for fertilizer!"
Frison, G.C., "Prehistoric Hunters of the High Plains," pp.239-44

Large amounts of meat were left to rot and herds of animals were decimated, and sometimes driven to local extinction. Buffalo and antelope traps killed so many that it took the herds decades to recover.




"....American Indians displayed a similar lack of sensitivity to the "complex web of life". The Sioux, as Daniel Guthrie has noted, "showed no qualms about driving a herd of buffalo over a cliff or about starting a range fire to drive the buffalo". And when buffalo were plentiful, often only the choicest parts were eaten, with the rest of the kill being left to rot --Dances with Wolves notwithstanding. " "Primitive man's relationship to nature",Bioscience, volume 21, 1971, page 722.



" In the Pacific Islands, the archaeological record shows that an enormous number of birds became extinct before European contact, but after settlement by the ancestors of contemporary indigenous populations. In many parts of the Pacific more species of land birds became extinct than survive today as a consequence of pre-European contact forest-clearing, hunting, and predation by the mammals which the islanders brought with them. " D.W. Steadman, "Extinction of birds in Eastern Polynesia: a review of the record, and comparisons with other Pacific Island groups",Journal of Archaeological Science, volume 16, 1989.




No 'greedy white men' involved.

 

[busybee01]

Nonsense, I'm of Catholic Polish roots, my great. great uncle was even a Catholic priest in Poland.
Why should I accept terrorist Israel, which massacres, and kicks Palestinians off their land.
Why should I support Israel which has harbored Commie Butchers, Rabbi Pedophiles, Organ Traffickers, and Russian Mafia thugs?

See, you SAY you are of Catholic Polish roots...then you turn around and spew the same Hamas / PLA anti-Israel / anti-Semitic indoctrination revisionist history and propaganda Tlaib obviously learned as a little Palestinian girl growing up...


Tlaib demonstrated she was raised to believe Amin al-Husseini, the spiritual leader of Jerusalem’s Muslims before World War II and one of the fathers of Palestinian nationalism, was some kind of hero, that he attempted to care out a safe haven for the Jews.

It is a tale the likes German revisionist historians tried to brainwash German kids with, teaching them the Holocaust never happened, and that Germany was never responsible for such an atrocity. Likewise, Tlaib was obviously raised being told an equally offensive lie, that al-Hussein attempted to prevent the attempted genocide of the Jews and that he and the Palestinians were repaid by the Jews with having their land and lives stolen...generating new generations of little Jew-hating Palestinian kids like Tlaib.

The TRUTH is that al-Hussein not only helped escalate violence in the Middle East, he participated in the oppression of the Jews in WWII. He helped recruit Muslims to fight for Hitler - they ended up playing a part in the destruction of Yugoslavian Jewry.

According to CNN Fact-Checkers, "In his Berlin radio speeches during the war, Husseini preached: “Kill the Jews wherever you find them—this pleases God, history and religion.” Such words would find a safe space in any Hamas lecture."

"Husseini personally, with the backing of Himmler, Eichmann, and other Nazis, intervened to stop the issuing of at least 400,000 visas to Jews trying to emigrate to British Palestine. Most of those Jews ended up in concentration camps rather than the “safe harbor” of Haifa.


In 1943, after hearing that some German allies were negotiating with the International Red Cross and others to transport thousands of Jewish children to Palestine to avoid death, he lobbied to prevent the rescue, pushing to have them sent to Poland to perish. Husseini was accused of war crimes by the Nuremberg tribunal. This hardly seems like a person offering a safe haven for Jews."

Funny, Tlaib - and you - seem to leave that out....




CNN vs. Rashida Tlaib: You're guilty of revisionist history about Palestinians and the Holocaust

You are a lying weasel. Your OP deliberately left out the part where she called what happened to Jews horrific. You have refused to acknowledge that and ramble about inconsequential things.

 

[Slade3200]

D-Tlaib:
"There’s always kind of a calming feeling, I tell folks, when I think of the Holocaust, and the tragedy of the Holocaust."



Welcome to the New Socialist Pro-Tertorist Anti-Semitic Democratic Party...


Rashida Tlaib slammed by House GOP over statement that Holocaust gives her 'kind of a calming feeling'

.

Excellent, another fine example of your inability to comprehend or your willingness to lie and spin. Well done ya douche!

Were are the lies?

Is Tlaib a Democrat?

Is she an anti-Semite?

The Democrat Party is now running on full-blown anti-white racism, socialism, infanticide, opposition to free speech, substituting illegal alien voters for the American citizenry, and anti-Semitism… the knuckle-dragging, atavistic pagan party.

Do you really think her statement said that the holocaust gives her a calming feeling?

 

[easyt65]

Whether land was a coveted concept, thought of as a possession or not is immaterial. They lost vast territories as a consequence of losing wars to a technologically superior force.

Spoken like a true 'paleface'.

White people have always justified taking what they wanted. Take 'Manifest Destiny', for example. We know what the WHITE PEOPLE claim that means., but all of us Native Americans know is just means, '...Because We want yo' sh!t!'

 

[TrueTT]

Yes.....but they settled a barren land.

Not the same as 1492 and beyond.

Who did????


The stone-age savages made the land barren.

They were simply savages.

These were stone age peoples, thousands of years behind the advancement of the European settlers. They moved from one locale to another, using up resources, burning down entire forests, and slaughtering species to the point of extinction.


American Indians were almost certainly responsible for the extinction of many large mammal species:
Until ten thousand years ago an incredible bestiary of mammals roamed North America. These were the so-called mega-fauna, an exotic menagerie that included the woolly mammoth, saber-toothed tiger, giant sloth, giant beaver, camel, horse, two-toed horse,and dire wolf. These were the dominant fauna on this continent for tens of millions of years. Then suddenly and mysteriously they disappeared.
Alton Chase, "Playing God In Yellowstone," p. 100


"The Vore buffalo jump site in Wyoming...was used five times between 1550 and 1690,and holds the remains of 20,000 buffalo. That means 4,000 or more buffalo were killed each time the jump was used. Other buffalo jumps in the West display the remains of as many as 300,000 buffalo. These sites were so numerous, in fact, and held such large deposits of bone, that for many years they were mined as a source of phosphorus for fertilizer!"
Frison, G.C., "Prehistoric Hunters of the High Plains," pp.239-44

Yes.....but they settled a barren land.

Not the same as 1492 and beyond.

Who did????


The stone-age savages made the land barren.

They were simply savages.

These were stone age peoples, thousands of years behind the advancement of the European settlers. They moved from one locale to another, using up resources, burning down entire forests, and slaughtering species to the point of extinction.


American Indians were almost certainly responsible for the extinction of many large mammal species:
Until ten thousand years ago an incredible bestiary of mammals roamed North America. These were the so-called mega-fauna, an exotic menagerie that included the woolly mammoth, saber-toothed tiger, giant sloth, giant beaver, camel, horse, two-toed horse,and dire wolf. These were the dominant fauna on this continent for tens of millions of years. Then suddenly and mysteriously they disappeared.
Alton Chase, "Playing God In Yellowstone," p. 100


"The Vore buffalo jump site in Wyoming...was used five times between 1550 and 1690,and holds the remains of 20,000 buffalo. That means 4,000 or more buffalo were killed each time the jump was used. Other buffalo jumps in the West display the remains of as many as 300,000 buffalo. These sites were so numerous, in fact, and held such large deposits of bone, that for many years they were mined as a source of phosphorus for fertilizer!"
Frison, G.C., "Prehistoric Hunters of the High Plains," pp.239-44

Thanks Miss.

But I’m more curious to know which race or community of humans they conquered to take possession of the hemisphere.

Not how many trees they cut down.

I'll say it again....verrrrrryyyy sloooooowly:


The Indians moved from Asia via what was then a land bridge.
They were settlers to this continent as were the Europeans.


Hence...not 'native.'

They destroyed resources, burned down forests to more easily see their prey....and then moved on to another venue.

Land was not a 'possession' to Indians.....until the Europeans brought capitalism, and taught them the value of the land.

They were three thousand years behind the Europeans in understanding.

Get it?

Whether land was a coveted concept, thought of as a possession or not is immaterial.

They lost vast territories as a consequence of losing wars to a technologically superior force.

My point is this: If tomorrow they had the means or military might to redress and recoup the lands they conceded in the wars lost (not lands which were sold) in the 19th century....they are morally justified to do so.

Same as the Jews in Palestine being justified to do what they did in 1948. The Nakba is a hoax.

OMG!!!!



How could they 'lose' what they never owned????????



On the other hand....you are perfectly correct about Jews and the Nakba.

The two situations are not comparable.....the Jews bought the land.

The Jews did not buy all of the lands they currently own- or what was to be apportioned to them as part of the British Mandate.

Just look at the map of the partition plan in 1947 and then compare it to the Israeli map at the point of then 1949 Armistice.

The Jews should’ve taken all of it- not because they bought it. But because as Jews they have the legitimate rights as indigenous peoples to the land of Israel. From the river to the sea.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The Native Americans are indigenous.

When are you giving up your house to them?

Instead you support Jewish indigenous rights, because you're a hypocrite Zionist.

If Native Americans tomorrow possessed the military resources and manpower to stage a revanchist campaign in the United States, then they are wholly within their moral rights to do so.

Just as the Jews were in Palestine in 1948.

You're just jealous that the Jews actually succeeded and managed to pull it off.

God's laws of karma are always in effect. It's poetic and beautiful, even when it isn't.

What nonsense......you must be a government school grad. Have you ever read a book?
Do you know what a book is?????



1. Did the colonists steal THEIR land?

"The implications for the Indian question are straightforward. Namely: In the extremely unlikely event that any particular Indian can show that he personally is the rightful heir of a particular Indian who was wrongfully dispossessed of a particular piece of property, the current occupants should hand him the keys to his birthright and vacate the premises. Otherwise the current occupants have the morally strongest claim to their property,and the status quo should continue.

Anything more is just the doctrine of collective guiltmasquerading as a defense of property rights."
Do Indians Rightfully Own America Bryan Caplan EconLog Library of Economics and Liberty




2. "One popular history of Manhattan notes that the Canarsie Indians "dwelt on Long Island, merely trading on Manhattan, and their trickery [in selling what they didn't possess to the Dutch] made it necessary for the white man to buy part of the island over again from the tribes living near Washington Heights. Still more crafty were the Raritans of [Staten Island], for therecords show that Staten Island was sold by these Indians no less than six times."
The Straight Dope How much would the 24 paid for Manhattan be worth in today s money


1626 Peter Minuit purchased the island of Manhattan from the Canarsee Native Americans on May 24, 1626. However, the Canarsee were actually native to Brooklyn, while Manhattan was home instead to the Weckquaesgeek,(Wappnai) who were not pleased by the exchange and later battled the Dutch in Kieft's War. Peter Minuit (1589-1638)



3. And because they had no concept of private property, Indians regularly killed the animals that they hunted to the point of extinction.

I’m not discussing transactional exchanges and land acquisitions.

I speak strictly of the wars of conquest and the lands annexed or incorporated as a result. The Indian wars.

PS: you don’t need to have a concept of private property to protest the idea of being uprooted from your original land base/ forcibly made to move elsewhere.

They weren't 'uprooted,' you dunce.

They migrated from one place to another, and slaughtered any in their way.


"Many thousands of years before Christopher Columbus’ ships landed in the Bahamas, a different group of people discovered America: the nomadic ancestors of modern Native Americans who hiked over a “land bridge” from Asia to what is now Alaska more than 12,000 years ago. In fact, by the time European adventurers arrived in the 15th century A.D., scholars estimate that more than 50 million people were already living in the Americas. Of these, some 10 million lived in the area that would become the United States. As time passed, these migrants and their descendants ....."
https://www.history.com/topics/native-american-history/native-american-cultures



I bet some nice adult will help you get a library card......




BTW......Go Rangers!!!

It's funny how white people claim they 'discovered America'. We Native Americans already living here had no idea you people thought it was 'lost'. And 'OBTW', Leif Ericson and the Vikings had 'discovered' America (not the Bahamas) long before Chris landed there, enslaved most of the population and killed many more off with the introduction of their 'foreign' diseases'. (Personally I think 'Columbus Day' should be replaced with 'Leif Ericson Day - who would not rather run around drinking, 'raping, pillaging, and plundering' and wearing Viking horns?!)

There were no 'native' American.

My ancestors wandered over from Asia.




"killed many more off with the introduction of their 'foreign' diseases'."

The diseases were an accident of nature, as was the Bubonic Plague of Europe, which came from North Africa.

In neither case was it planned.