Cuban Sanctions Good, Close Hormuz Bad

[candycorn]

https://www.wsj.com/world/hormuz-cr...ix-8241d5bc?reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

Hormuz Crisis Exposes a Global Flaw That Will Take Years to Fix​

Iran’s stranglehold on the strait demonstrates the power countries can exert in a deeply intertwined world​

2 stories.

The US strangulation of Cuba is a good thing

The US war on Iran and strangulation of the global economy by closing Hormuz is a bad thing

We’re living in Bizzaroland

The really hilarious thing about this sad administration is that we’ll trade with anyone who is a threat to us--China for example. Cuba poses zero threat to us...is close by, a nation that could use everything from US made toothpicks to tractors to grain to widgets...no sector of our economy would be rejected by Cubans....

But we decide to not sell to them because...well....communism.

 

[pknopp]

I have a great idea.

Every nation on earth should have nukes.

Problem solved.

We are all safe then.

Somalia, Cuba, Norway, Ukraine, Venezuela….everyone.

Currently, there are 197 countries. They should all have nukes.

"If worms had daggers, birds wouldn't f##k with them".

 

[kyzr]

That's kinda like the US, Israel, and Iran thing. Sometimes, you just have to accept that shit is, and deal with it.

Ok, but this is not one of those times. If Iran gets nukes and ICBMs, that would be an unacceptable risk, so Trump took action.

We attacked to save the world from Iranian nukes (allegedly).
However, we knew through hundreds of simulations, maneuvers, and assholes in 'think tanks', over decades, that Iran would close the Strait. Our intel knew, Europe's intel knew. They briefed our moron in chief on that.

Ok. But the US blockade of Iranian oil, and the sanctions on Iranian assets, are more decisive than Iran's closing of Hormuz.
China is importing less, the US is exporting more, gas is coming down in my area, under $4 now.
Iran wants its $24b back, Trump is saying we will use it to repair the damage from Iran's missiles and drones.

We also knew that Iran had tens of thousands of missiles. We knew that our bases, all of our Gulf allies' cities, and infrastructure would be targeted. The idiot Israelcuck was also briefed on that, I am sure.

Sure, but very few got thru our defenses.

We attacked Iran not because of nukes; there was no threat of those, because we took their ability to make a nuke out.
Remember that, too? And now, because we didn't like the speck in our eye, we are partially blinded.

We are not blinded. We can open Hormuz with escorts any time we want.

Also, remember North Korea? Remember little rocket man? North Korea cannot be allowed to have nukes.
Well, they got a nuke, they have about 300 actually, and guess what happened other than everybody shutting the fk up?
NOTHING! You don't really hear about them anymore. We can't bully them now. THAT'S NO FUN! is it?

Actually Xi is in NK right now explaining things to KJU.

What to know about a rare visit by China's Xi to North Korea for talks with Kim Jong Un

Chinese leader Xi Jinping is traveling to North Korea for the first time in nearly seven years, offering North Korean leader Kim Jong Un a stage to showcase an increasingly assertive foreign policy anchored by closer ties with his country’s former Cold War allies.

apnews.com

 

[kyzr]

We've been told "you are about to see" concerning Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya and now Iran but nothing changes.

You don't influence countries with war and sanctions. You influence them with trade.

In all those cases war was first, then a stable government, then trade deals to help their economies

 

[pknopp]

In all those cases war was first, then a stable government, then trade deals to help their economies

Afghanistan is no different today than the day before we invaded. (keeping the argument easy for you)

it's the SAME government.

 

[Gabe Lackmann]

Ok, but this is not one of those times. If Iran gets nukes and ICBMs, that would be an unacceptable risk, so Trump took action.

Like...North Korea...right?

Ok. But the US blockade of Iranian oil, and the sanctions on Iranian assets, are more decisive than Iran's closing of Hormuz.

No, they're absolutely not. Iran has created an entire economy around the constant and persistent sanctions of the west over the past 40 years. They are prepared much more effectively because it has been their world. As for the West?

Iran wants its $24b back, Trump is saying we will use it to repair the damage from Iran's missiles and drones.

And they will get it, because if they don't get it, they will continue to cut 20% of the world's oil supply off. In return, we will do what?
Not a GD thing except burn more taxpayer dollars executing their replaceable leaders.

Sure, but very few got thru our defenses.

What are you watching?
A simple, cursory search provides a ton of information.

We burned through 75% of our anti-missile stockpiles in the process, making us even more exposed.
This does not include hundreds of billions in Gulf state oil and civilian infrastructure.

We are not blinded. We can open Hormuz with escorts any time we want.

U.S. Navy Turns Down Hormuz Escort Requests Because of High Risk

The U.S. Navy has so far declined to provide Strait of Hormuz escorts for shipping, despite daily requests, multiple sources told Reuters on Tuesday....

maritime-executive.com

Sher Bud.

How old are you? You gotta be at least 70 to be THIS boomerfied.

 

[JWBooth]

That has never been confirmed.

Ready to swallow the Iran nuke myth and throw shade on the Israeli nukes that the world acknowledges but because of the money handout law the US officially refuses to say.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Seems we would understand why Pooty would be concerned about NATO moving to his border.

It's a shame that the formerly enslaved nations wanted to join NATO so they couldn't be enslaved again.
What were they thinking? Russia is a perfectly peaceful neighbor.
Never did nuffin to nobody.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Remember the US has a total debt as high as $300 trillion when you include Obligations and Derivatives .

Why do you feel derivatives are debt?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You don't influence countries with war and sanctions. You influence them with trade.

How much trade do we currently have with Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany?

 

[pknopp]

How much trade do we currently have with Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany?

Part of the reason for WWII was a failure in trade in the proceeding years.

 

[kyzr]

Like...North Korea...right?

NK is behaving much better than Iran.

No, they're absolutely not. Iran has created an entire economy around the constant and persistent sanctions of the west over the past 40 years. They are prepared much more effectively because it has been their world. As for the West?

So you are betting Iran outlasts the US. Good luck with that.

And they will get it, because if they don't get it, they will continue to cut 20% of the world's oil supply off. In return, we will do what?
Not a GD thing except burn more taxpayer dollars executing their replaceable leaders.

Maybe yo missed the part that we are using Iran's $24b to repair the damage they caused.

What are you watching? A simple, cursory search provides a ton of information.
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So how much of Iran's military and nuclear weapons program were damaged or destroyed, in dollar value?
Net-net $2-$3b in US military equipment vs $140b for Iranian equipment.
(I was actually referring to the more recent shots from Iran not getting thru)
Per Copilot:
"The clearest available estimate of total financial damage to Iran’s military and nuclear program—based on open‑source intelligence and Iranian reporting—is between $140 billion and $145 billion after several weeks of U.S.–Israeli strikes"

We burned through 75% of our anti-missile stockpiles in the process, making us even more exposed.

We still have more than enough to stop Iran's missiles and drone attacks, are they getting any thru lately?

This does not include hundreds of billions in Gulf state oil and civilian infrastructure.

Now that is a whopper. Besides, I already showed you that we will be using Iran's $24b to make repairs.
Copilot says:
About  $25  billion in damage was done to Gulf states’ oil and gas infrastructure by Iranian attacks, based on the best available estimates from energy‑sector analyses.

U.S. Navy Turns Down Hormuz Escort Requests Because of High Risk​

Sher Bud. How old are you? You gotta be at least 70 to be THIS boomerfied.

Yes I'm older than that, my class had the highest SAT score average before they were "dumbed-down" for you folks.
"score high or die" (don't get into college, get drafted and go to the jungle in VN)

But back to your outdated post, from March 10th. Here is what Copilot says

What the U.S. Navy is doing:​

Although not conducting formal escorts, the U.S. Navy is heavily involved in supporting commercial shipping:

• Guiding ships through a safer lane near Oman, away from Iranian-controlled waters.
• Providing “naval overwatch”, including radar, drones, and situational guidance to vessels transiting “dark” (AIS off).
• Coordinating with ships that request help, offering routing advice and threat warnings.
• Mine‑clearing operations to open a safe corridor after Iran laid mines in the strait.
• Assisting some vessels on a case‑by‑case basis, even though CENTCOM denies any restart of “Project Freedom.”

What the U.S. Navy says it is not doing:​

CENTCOM has explicitly stated:

“U.S. forces are not currently escorting commercial vessels through the Strait of Hormuz.” — CENTCOM, May 26, 2026

This denial was issued after media reports claimed escorts had resumed.

Bottom line​

• Officially: No escorts.
• Practically: The U.S. Navy is heavily involved in enabling safe passage, guiding ships, clearing mines, and providing overwatch — but avoids the term escort to prevent escalation and political complications.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Part of the reason for WWII was a failure in trade in the proceeding years.

Right.

And how much trade do we have with Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany now?

 

[ColonelAngus]

It's a shame that the formerly enslaved nations wanted to join NATO so they couldn't be enslaved again.
What were they thinking? Russia is a perfectly peaceful neighbor.
Never did nuffin to nobody.

I am Latvian. I know the history.

Stalin murdered nearly all of my family and took our farm.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I am Latvian. I know the history.

Stalin murdered nearly all of my family and took our farm.

Makes sense they'd want to join NATO.
Even if that made Putin sad.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

We've been told "you are about to see" concerning Afghanistan, Iraq, syria, lybia and now Iran but nothing changes.

You don't influence countries with war and sanctions. You influence them with trade.

We influenced the shit out of Japan and Germany in the 1940s, eh?

 

[pknopp]

We influenced the shit out of Japan and Germany in the 1940s, eh?

I guess we are lucky Cuba hasn't destroyed us yet.