I'm using your Semitic "logic." Since I was born here in America, I'm a native.
Now according to the dictionary, anti-Semite refers to those who are "hostile toward or prejudiced against Jews" and even comes with a pic of you:
Criticism of Israel is NOT Anti-Semitism
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I'm using your Semitic "logic." Since I was born here in America, I'm a native.
Now according to the dictionary, anti-Semite refers to those who are "hostile toward or prejudiced against Jews" and even comes with a pic of you:
Lakhota
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There seems to be alot of controversy, as everywhere, about about Israel critism and anti-semitism. A discussion that needs airing.
There's plenty of anti-semitism on this board, most, NOT ALL, of the 'ant-zionists' on this particular board are.
(Not on many others however)
Anti-zionism to me being objecting to Israel's existence, not as some/many now use it to describe 'aggressive' policies of Israel. The accusation/Epithet 'zionist' as if this means "aggressive Israeli" or "aggressive Jew" however, IS antisemitic.
To me 'zionism' is a done deal.
There are Israelis who are for retreat to the 1967 borders, those wanting some sort of compromise (those two being the vast majority) and those few settlers who want all of the WB.
But ALL of these people, including those of us who support Israel's existence and right to defend itself, are 'Zionists'.
Just as here in the USA there are those for a more or less strong foreign policy. That doesn't make any of them more or less American.
Of course, Not all Israel critics are biased. But Proxy-anti-semtism/'The New anti-semitism' IS quite common.
A good piece on this by Alan Dershowitz on HuffingtonPost. July 2005.
Also like the quote by Thomas Friedman.
Alan Dershowitz: When Legit Criticism Crosses the Anti-Semitism Line
As Thomas Friedman of The New York Times accurately put it, "Criticizing Israel is not anti-Semitic, and saying so is vile. But Singling out Israel for opprobrium and international sanction -- Out of all proportion to any other party in the Middle East -- is anti-Semitic, and not saying so is dishonest".
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There's plenty of anti-semitism on this board, most, NOT ALL, of the 'ant-zionists' on this particular board are.
(Not on many others however)
Anti-zionism to me being objecting to Israel's existence, not as some/many now use it to describe 'aggressive' policies of Israel. The accusation/Epithet 'zionist' as if this means "aggressive Israeli" or "aggressive Jew" however, IS antisemitic.
To me 'zionism' is a done deal.
There are Israelis who are for retreat to the 1967 borders, those wanting some sort of compromise (those two being the vast majority) and those few settlers who want all of the WB.
But ALL of these people, including those of us who support Israel's existence and right to defend itself, are 'Zionists'.
Just as here in the USA there are those for a more or less strong foreign policy. That doesn't make any of them more or less American.
Of course, Not all Israel critics are biased. But Proxy-anti-semtism/'The New anti-semitism' IS quite common.
A good piece on this by Alan Dershowitz on HuffingtonPost. July 2005.
Also like the quote by Thomas Friedman.
Alan Dershowitz: When Legit Criticism Crosses the Anti-Semitism Line
From above:
As Thomas Friedman of The New York Times accurately put it, "Criticizing Israel is not anti-Semitic, and saying so is vile. But Singling out Israel for opprobrium and international sanction -- Out of all proportion to any other party in the Middle East -- is anti-Semitic, and not saying so is dishonest".
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Lakhota
Diamond Member
You pitiful little retard. Try looking up Semitic.
The Myth of Anti-Semitism - The Ugly Truth
Semitic people - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
TemplarKormac
Political Atheist
Cute the Israel bashing here in this thread... but the same facts exist. Israel and its people have ancient ties to that land. Face it, Israel will not die, much to your dismay.
We're not discussing Semites but rather anti-Semites. Look it up and while you're at it, look up the word "native."
: born in a particular place
—used to refer to the place where a person was born and raised
: belonging to a person since birth or childhood
Native - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary[1]
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Lakhota
Diamond Member
Israel is losing the public relations war:
The Netanyahu Disaster - The Atlantic
Netanyahu Government Suggests Israelis Avoid Marrying American Jews - The Atlantic
Netanyahu snubs Obama, shocks the Jews and gambles on Iran and the elections
Israel will lose all American Jews but the crazies
On how American Jews are Mostly the Opposite of Israeli PM Binyamin Netanyahu
The Netanyahu Disaster - The Atlantic
Netanyahu Government Suggests Israelis Avoid Marrying American Jews - The Atlantic
Netanyahu snubs Obama, shocks the Jews and gambles on Iran and the elections
Israel will lose all American Jews but the crazies
On how American Jews are Mostly the Opposite of Israeli PM Binyamin Netanyahu
Billo_Really
Litre of the Band
Did you kill someone trying to plant an olive tree?
Dogmaphobe
Diamond Member
Criticizing certain actions of the Israeli government is not antisemitic, but the vilification of everything and anything associated with Israel sure is.
The op was written by an antisemite who wants to indulge in its hatred of Jews but doesn't want to be called on it. The tip-off is the creature's questioning of Israel's very legitimacy.
The op was written by an antisemite who wants to indulge in its hatred of Jews but doesn't want to be called on it. The tip-off is the creature's questioning of Israel's very legitimacy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah ... meanwhile the hapless Palestinians wallow in squalid "refugee" camps. Some friend you are.
your article consists of both some HISTORY and a very clear
BIAS It is not so much the facts but their INTERPRETATIONS that is faulty. I really enjoyed that
"jews and arabs lived in 'relative' harmony'
in the middle east and in 'palestine'-----my own
hubby and his family and community had lived in
the middle east-------forever---eventually --for the past
approximately 2500 years-----until the 20th century AD-----
in a land now 100% muslim----for about the past 1200
years. They were a literate people-----with a REAL
..... not conjecture. Your article is full of nonsensical
conjecture
Billo_Really
Litre of the Band
So when do the Pals get their casino's?
Not a bad idea. They have a nice strip of land right on the Mediterranean that seems like a great location but they'll have to divert resources from tunnel-digging and weapons purchases to build them. Atlantic City on the Mediterranean! Beautiful!
Lakhota
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Semite - a member of a group of people originally of southwestern Asia that includes Jews and Arabs
Semite - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
Hence, anti-Semite applies equally to Arabs and Jews - even though Jews have tried to hijack it.
Semite - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
Hence, anti-Semite applies equally to Arabs and Jews - even though Jews have tried to hijack it.
You're a hopeless moron. Antisemitism does not include all Semitic people, it's limited to who specifically hates just the jews, retard...look up the word in a dictionary...but you can't stop blurting out your Nazi talking point...I'm mean if if you were right it would just be semantics. ..but you're not right, which makes you that much more of a moron, fake indian.
No, it doesn't:
"Anti-Semitism: (1) hostility toward Jews as a religious or racial minority group, often accompanied by social, political or economic discrimination (2) opposition to Zionism (3) sympathy for the opponents of Israel."
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...T6zIBI&usg=AFQjCNE0SxDB63XE4YYGaGDocTkXv9avYg
Now show us a definition of anti-Semite, idiot.
Even if the fake I Dian was right it would just be semantics, but since the fake Indian is stupid - he does not realize this and is hung up on this stupid argument.
Lak-----anyone can quote islamo Nazi propaganda----it is nothing new. I first read it as a child under the age of ten---
circa 1960 I heard it quoted a bit more than ten years later from the mouths of ----muslims born---FAR FAR AWAY--------their ability to quote the filth got them into
medical school in their third world muslim countries. At the
time I first read it ----back then circa 1960----it was already
OLD STUFF--------btw---tammy is nothing more than an hysterical "professional" parrot of the old stuff
Lakhota
Diamond Member
I used to be indifferent toward Jews - but Nutanyahoo and his hardliners (including some assholes on this board) are changing my indifference. Jews are a whiny bunch of land thieves.
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