Cracks begin to appear in the fear mongering

[Brain357]

The death rate is a red herring. Even if the death rate is a lot lower than thought this virus is extremely contagious and it is killing people a lot of people each day.

Reports are between .1 & .3% mortality.

You don't destroy an entire generation economically for that.

we don’t know the mortality rate because the vast majority of the country hasn’t been tested. As it stands the case mortality rate is 5%. No one wants to destroy the economy, but right now the only choice is to sacrifice to save lives. 2000 people are dying each day and that’s with extreme measures taken. How many people are you willing to sacrifice a day to get this economy running again?

People are losing their healthcare everyday by being laid off. How many people are you
willing to sacrifice?

Gee, the economy wasn't all that great in the first place, was it?

Unemployment was at historic lows....wasn't it?

Deficits at historic highs and couldn’t hit 3% growth...

Thanks to you vermin.

Haha.. thanks to trump shitty economic policy.

 

[jc456]

The death rate is a red herring. Even if the death rate is a lot lower than thought this virus is extremely contagious and it is killing people a lot of people each day.

Reports are between .1 & .3% mortality.

You don't destroy an entire generation economically for that.

we don’t know the mortality rate because the vast majority of the country hasn’t been tested. As it stands the case mortality rate is 5%. No one wants to destroy the economy, but right now the only choice is to sacrifice to save lives. 2000 people are dying each day and that’s with extreme measures taken. How many people are you willing to sacrifice a day to get this economy running again?

People are losing their healthcare everyday by being laid off. How many people are you
willing to sacrifice?

I myself am suffering from this economy,many are worse off than I am. The economy won’t come back to normal just because we want it to. The economy is going to suffer no matter what. We’re going to have to make sacrifices. My opinion is the virus as a humanitarian issue should take priority as of this moment. This shutdown will not last forever, but we really have no choice but to be patient.

that's why the shut down was worse than the virus. only honest people will agree.

 

[Billy_Bob]

New study out of CALIFORNIA, of all places, shows virus isn't near as deadly as foretold.

Los Angeles study suggests virus much more widespread %251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fabcnews.go.com%2FHealth%2FwireStory%2Flos-angeles-study-suggests-virus-widespread-70255010

The reason that the virus is not as dangerous in Cali is that the people there have immunity and the govt knows this which is why they will not test the people who already have antibodies and are not sick

The Stanford study shows they have about a 30% rate of people with antibodies. 50% is considered herd immunity levels that allow full economic functions. They could unleash 50% of the work force for two weeks and gain this with minimal losses. Basically in two weeks they could fully open up.

 

[Muhammed]

New study out of CALIFORNIA, of all places, shows virus isn't near as deadly as foretold.

Los Angeles study suggests virus much more widespread %251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fabcnews.go.com%2FHealth%2FwireStory%2Flos-angeles-study-suggests-virus-widespread-70255010

The reason that the virus is not as dangerous in Cali is that the people there have immunity and the govt knows this which is why they will not test the people who already have antibodies and are not sick

Actually the government told us that the mortality rate was probably much less than 1%.

 

[Billy_Bob]

The death rate is a red herring. Even if the death rate is a lot lower than thought this virus is extremely contagious and it is killing people a lot of people each day.

Reports are between .1 & .3% mortality.

You don't destroy an entire generation economically for that.

we don’t know the mortality rate because the vast majority of the country hasn’t been tested. As it stands the case mortality rate is 5%. No one wants to destroy the economy, but right now the only choice is to sacrifice to save lives. 2000 people are dying each day and that’s with extreme measures taken. How many people are you willing to sacrifice a day to get this economy running again?

People are losing their healthcare everyday by being laid off. How many people are you
willing to sacrifice?

Gee, the economy wasn't all that great in the first place, was it?

Unemployment was at historic lows....wasn't it?

Deficits at historic highs and couldn’t hit 3% growth...

Thanks to you vermin.

Haha.. thanks to trump shitty economic policy.

How is the CHINESE VIRUS TRUMPS FAULT?

 

[Brain357]

The death rate is a red herring. Even if the death rate is a lot lower than thought this virus is extremely contagious and it is killing people a lot of people each day.

Reports are between .1 & .3% mortality.

You don't destroy an entire generation economically for that.

we don’t know the mortality rate because the vast majority of the country hasn’t been tested. As it stands the case mortality rate is 5%. No one wants to destroy the economy, but right now the only choice is to sacrifice to save lives. 2000 people are dying each day and that’s with extreme measures taken. How many people are you willing to sacrifice a day to get this economy running again?

People are losing their healthcare everyday by being laid off. How many people are you
willing to sacrifice?

I myself am suffering from this economy,many are worse off than I am. The economy won’t come back to normal just because we want it to. The economy is going to suffer no matter what. We’re going to have to make sacrifices. My opinion is the virus as a humanitarian issue should take priority as of this moment. This shutdown will not last forever, but we really have no choice but to be patient.

that's why the shut down was worse than the virus. only honest people will agree.

Then why does trump have daily briefings on it and recommend all this social distancing?

 

[Brain357]

The death rate is a red herring. Even if the death rate is a lot lower than thought this virus is extremely contagious and it is killing people a lot of people each day.

Reports are between .1 & .3% mortality.

You don't destroy an entire generation economically for that.

we don’t know the mortality rate because the vast majority of the country hasn’t been tested. As it stands the case mortality rate is 5%. No one wants to destroy the economy, but right now the only choice is to sacrifice to save lives. 2000 people are dying each day and that’s with extreme measures taken. How many people are you willing to sacrifice a day to get this economy running again?

People are losing their healthcare everyday by being laid off. How many people are you
willing to sacrifice?

Gee, the economy wasn't all that great in the first place, was it?

Unemployment was at historic lows....wasn't it?

Deficits at historic highs and couldn’t hit 3% growth...

Thanks to you vermin.

Haha.. thanks to trump shitty economic policy.

How is the CHINESE VIRUS TRUMPS FAULT?

Trump ran up huge deficits long before the virus.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

But....but...but...it's a deadly worldwide pathogen that can only be stopped by destroying the economy, bankrupting working class Americans, defeating Donald Trump and bringing fourth a new Socialist Government.

Stop fucking up our narrative!!!

You're lying again. That isn't what medical experts are saying. But you already knew that.

In response to protests against social distancing, Dr. Anthony Fauci warns that opening too soon will backfire

In response to protests against social distancing, Dr. Anthony Fauci warns that opening too soon will backfire

www.mediamatters.org

But Fauci’s objectives are purely medical, not social or economic. His goal is to eradicate the virus without concern for the economic consequences. The people realistically have to account for both. Fauci’s strategy delays the desired overall result.

 

[Missourian]

I never lie.

Except when your fingers are touching the keyboard.

If Dem governors are trying to sabotage the recovery why are they working so hard to get supplies to re-open their economies? You do understand state budgets are stretched and in need of the economy to come back so tax receipts increase, right?

States still baffled over how to get coronavirus supplies from Trump

Governors are trying any method they can think of — contacting FEMA, making Twitter pleas, calling Trump and going to the media.

www.politico.com

Excellent...this is a teachable moment.

Remember when you said "straw man alert" and I said you were using that concept inappropriately?

As a person with a relative (cousin) who works as a nurse...........

Straw man argument alert.

www.usmessageboard.com

Well this post is a classic strawman argument.

You set up the strawman...a position on a subject that I neither made nor took...then you proceed to knock it down. That's a strawman argumentation device.

Hope you learned something.

 

[Brain357]

Do you righties not like the trump reopening guidelines?

 

[WEATHER53]

Very infectious and very unlethal
Can we get out of the house now .

 

[Billy_Bob]

The death rate is a red herring. Even if the death rate is a lot lower than thought this virus is extremely contagious and it is killing people a lot of people each day.

Reports are between .1 & .3% mortality.

You don't destroy an entire generation economically for that.

we don’t know the mortality rate because the vast majority of the country hasn’t been tested. As it stands the case mortality rate is 5%. No one wants to destroy the economy, but right now the only choice is to sacrifice to save lives. 2000 people are dying each day and that’s with extreme measures taken. How many people are you willing to sacrifice a day to get this economy running again?

People are losing their healthcare everyday by being laid off. How many people are you
willing to sacrifice?

Gee, the economy wasn't all that great in the first place, was it?

Unemployment was at historic lows....wasn't it?

Deficits at historic highs and couldn’t hit 3% growth...

Thanks to you vermin.

Haha.. thanks to trump shitty economic policy.

How is the CHINESE VIRUS TRUMPS FAULT?

Trump ran up huge deficits long before the virus.

Everything is trumps fault with you left wing fools...

There are 16 studies going on nation wide in representative populations that will soon tell us how penetrated our populace is with COVID-19. Of the 8 already done they average about 30% penetration across the nation. The rest will be done by the end of the week. IF these all hold the current levels of penetration we can open up very quickly as the numbers of those who can be infected will have dropped by 30-50% inside 2 weeks. Inside about 4 weeks we could be open at 100% and still be able to deal with minor outbreaks.

 

[Rocko]

The death rate is a red herring. Even if the death rate is a lot lower than thought this virus is extremely contagious and it is killing people a lot of people each day.

Reports are between .1 & .3% mortality.

You don't destroy an entire generation economically for that.

we don’t know the mortality rate because the vast majority of the country hasn’t been tested. As it stands the case mortality rate is 5%. No one wants to destroy the economy, but right now the only choice is to sacrifice to save lives. 2000 people are dying each day and that’s with extreme measures taken. How many people are you willing to sacrifice a day to get this economy running again?

People are losing their healthcare everyday by being laid off. How many people are you
willing to sacrifice?

I myself am suffering from this economy,many are worse off than I am. The economy won’t come back to normal just because we want it to. The economy is going to suffer no matter what. We’re going to have to make sacrifices. My opinion is the virus as a humanitarian issue should take priority as of this moment. This shutdown will not last forever, but we really have no choice but to be patient.

Somebody dying of one affliction is better than dying of another in your opinion. Duly noted

Never said that. I’m of the opinion that the decision we should make should be based on preventing the most amount of deaths. I’m surprised you’d frame my opinion in a dishonest way.

 

[Crepitus]

New study out of CALIFORNIA, of all places, shows virus isn't near as deadly as foretold.

Los Angeles study suggests virus much more widespread %251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fabcnews.go.com%2FHealth%2FwireStory%2Flos-angeles-study-suggests-virus-widespread-70255010

How do you conclude "not as deadly as foretold" --- whatever that means --- from this?
The postulation is that many people were infected and developed antibodies. People who have not been exposed, DO NOT have antibodies.

OP didn't think this one through. Or as we usually call it, "Tuesday".

OMFG, are you THAT BAD AT MATH?

If MORE people have it than what we know it will automatically drive DOWN the percentage of the deaths.

You test 10 people. All ten have it. One dies. That's a mortality rate of 10%
BUT if 100 people actually have it and just haven't been tested the mortality rate is ONE PERCENT.


Class dismissed

Maybe you should get tRump off his ass and get us tested. Then we'd know.

This is a pathetic attempt to defend your orange god. He fucked up. If we had proper testing we'd know, one way or the other.

 

[WEATHER53]

Probably trying to influence Trump so they can put more blame on him later if a lot of people get sick.

Right....just like the whole virus thing is a Democrat plot to make diaper donnie look bad....which wasn't that hard to do.

Do you get all tingly in your naughty parts when you call POTUS names? Don’t be embarassed, most 12 year olds do. It’s called acting out

 

[Brain357]

The death rate is a red herring. Even if the death rate is a lot lower than thought this virus is extremely contagious and it is killing people a lot of people each day.

Reports are between .1 & .3% mortality.

You don't destroy an entire generation economically for that.

we don’t know the mortality rate because the vast majority of the country hasn’t been tested. As it stands the case mortality rate is 5%. No one wants to destroy the economy, but right now the only choice is to sacrifice to save lives. 2000 people are dying each day and that’s with extreme measures taken. How many people are you willing to sacrifice a day to get this economy running again?

People are losing their healthcare everyday by being laid off. How many people are you
willing to sacrifice?

Gee, the economy wasn't all that great in the first place, was it?

Unemployment was at historic lows....wasn't it?

Deficits at historic highs and couldn’t hit 3% growth...

Thanks to you vermin.

Haha.. thanks to trump shitty economic policy.

How is the CHINESE VIRUS TRUMPS FAULT?

Trump ran up huge deficits long before the virus.

Everything is trumps fault with you left wing fools...

There are 16 studies going on nation wide in representative populations that will soon tell us how penetrated our populace is with COVID-19. Of the 8 already done they average about 30% penetration across the nation. The rest will be done by the end of the week. IF these all hold the current levels of penetration we can open up very quickly as the numbers of those who can be infected will have dropped by 30-50% inside 2 weeks. Inside about 4 weeks we could be open at 100% and still be able to deal with minor outbreaks.

Wow you must be some virus expert. So are trumps reopening guidelines ok with you dr?

 

[Pogo]

The death rate is a red herring. Even if the death rate is a lot lower than thought this virus is extremely contagious and it is killing people a lot of people each day.

Reports are between .1 & .3% mortality.

You don't destroy an entire generation economically for that.

we don’t know the mortality rate because the vast majority of the country hasn’t been tested. As it stands the case mortality rate is 5%. No one wants to destroy the economy, but right now the only choice is to sacrifice to save lives. 2000 people are dying each day and that’s with extreme measures taken. How many people are you willing to sacrifice a day to get this economy running again?

People are losing their healthcare everyday by being laid off. How many people are you
willing to sacrifice?

I myself am suffering from this economy,many are worse off than I am. The economy won’t come back to normal just because we want it to. The economy is going to suffer no matter what. We’re going to have to make sacrifices. My opinion is the virus as a humanitarian issue should take priority as of this moment. This shutdown will not last forever, but we really have no choice but to be patient.

And you have a personal connection of another kind. How's your mom doing?

 

[WEATHER53]

As it stands the case mortality rate is 5%

That is not the mortality rate. That number is only being reported because no one has been tested. Once tests are widespread that number WILL drop BELOW 1%
More people being tested will not cause more deaths.

I said case mortality rate. I literally said we don’t know the mortality rate because of lack of testing. Some of the top experts in the world are predicting when it’s all said and done the mortality rate will be ten times that of the flu, which again is irrelevant, because who cares what the mortality rate is when thousands are dying each day?

How those million billion times worse projection been working out so far?

 

[Brain357]

As it stands the case mortality rate is 5%

That is not the mortality rate. That number is only being reported because no one has been tested. Once tests are widespread that number WILL drop BELOW 1%
More people being tested will not cause more deaths.

I said case mortality rate. I literally said we don’t know the mortality rate because of lack of testing. Some of the top experts in the world are predicting when it’s all said and done the mortality rate will be ten times that of the flu, which again is irrelevant, because who cares what the mortality rate is when thousands are dying each day?

How those million billion times worse projection been working out so far?

Where did those projections come from?

 

[Billy_Bob]

The death rate is a red herring. Even if the death rate is a lot lower than thought this virus is extremely contagious and it is killing people a lot of people each day.

Reports are between .1 & .3% mortality.

You don't destroy an entire generation economically for that.

we don’t know the mortality rate because the vast majority of the country hasn’t been tested. As it stands the case mortality rate is 5%. No one wants to destroy the economy, but right now the only choice is to sacrifice to save lives. 2000 people are dying each day and that’s with extreme measures taken. How many people are you willing to sacrifice a day to get this economy running again?

People are losing their healthcare everyday by being laid off. How many people are you
willing to sacrifice?

Gee, the economy wasn't all that great in the first place, was it?

Unemployment was at historic lows....wasn't it?

Deficits at historic highs and couldn’t hit 3% growth...

Thanks to you vermin.

Haha.. thanks to trump shitty economic policy.

How is the CHINESE VIRUS TRUMPS FAULT?

Trump ran up huge deficits long before the virus.

Everything is trumps fault with you left wing fools...

There are 16 studies going on nation wide in representative populations that will soon tell us how penetrated our populace is with COVID-19. Of the 8 already done they average about 30% penetration across the nation. The rest will be done by the end of the week. IF these all hold the current levels of penetration we can open up very quickly as the numbers of those who can be infected will have dropped by 30-50% inside 2 weeks. Inside about 4 weeks we could be open at 100% and still be able to deal with minor outbreaks.

Wow you must be some virus expert. So are trumps reopening guidelines ok with you dr?

Trumps following long established guidelines for minimizing damage from a viral attack. Only an idiot would see it otherwise. To bad you do not have a functioning brain cell to use..