Couple Called 911 After ‘Disoriented’ Woman Knocked on Their Door. She Froze to Death While Waiting for Help to Arrive: Lawsuit

[Winston]

Reread my post dingus. Women do know how to act. How to lure. Do you know how many times females have persuaded help from someone - only to have her partner come out of nowhere and murder the helper? It happens more than you might think.
People use to hitchhike all over this country back in the day. Not anymore. Want to take a guess why?
There is no way in hell I would just automatically help a person if they appear in need. Unless - I deem it safe for my family and myself to do so.
In the case above - I would most likely help.

You are a scared little man.

 

[SmokeALib]

You are a scared little man.

I'm a smart man with God-given common sense. Can I make the assumption that you voted for camela?

 

[Yarddog]

Reread my post dingus. Women do know how to act. How to lure. Do you know how many times females have persuaded help from someone - only to have her partner come out of nowhere and murder the helper? It happens more than you might think.
People use to hitchhike all over this country back in the day. Not anymore. Want to take a guess why?
There is no way in hell I would just automatically help a person if they appear in need. Unless - I deem it safe for my family and myself to do so.
In the case above - I would most likely help.

But you would not just ignore her right? It wouldnt take to long to tell if she was truely stranded or if it was a ploy. For those people just to ignore someone as they freeze to death means they were seriously lacking in something.

 

[drudge X]

It’s too bad the US is a high litigation and frivolous law suit society. Help someone crossing the street can land you a suit if that person falls and got injured.

 

[JGalt]

This is why I'd never more to Alaska. Wisconsin is cold enough.

This is a sad story, she had a lot of other shit going on in her life...

"Police records reviewed by Alaska’s News Source show Lindsay was dealing with mounting financial, legal and personal pressures in the months before her death. Among them: a two-year legal dispute with her parents over her grandmother’s estate.

Court records show Randy and Susan Kaer had an extensive history of litigation before the dispute with their daughter. They had been defendants in 25 lawsuits dating back to 2003, involving debt collection, eviction, real estate disputes and homeowners’ association complaints — most resolved through settlement or default judgments against them.

They also accumulated significant secured debt: a legal claim filed against their Big Lake, Alaska property in 2020; a $431,386 home equity line of credit on their Anchorage home in 2022; and a $1.345 million refinanced deed of trust on their Big Lake condo, also in 2022. The Kaers also owned a hotel in Juneau.

When Alecia’s grandmother, Ai Liau Mayo, died on June 7, 2022, her will named Lindsay as personal representative of the estate.

Within weeks, her parents filed a civil complaint alleging Lindsay had stolen hundreds of thousands of dollars’ worth of jewelry from her grandmother’s safes.

A court order dated Feb. 7, 2023 removed Lindsay as personal representative of the estate.

In March 2023, the Kaers filed a financing statement using their Juneau hotel as collateral. By January 2024, they had filed additional financing statements using both the Big Lake condo and the Juneau hotel.

Rather than continue litigating, the parties reached a settlement. Under the agreement, signed by all parties and approved by Superior Court Judge Andrew Guidi on Nov. 27, 2023, Lindsay received $256,000 from the estate in exchange for forfeiting all other claims — and returned the jewelry to her parents.

The theft allegations were never proven or disproven in court. The settlement agreement explicitly states it is not an admission of wrongdoing by any party, and no restitution flowed to her parents.

The building manager at Lindsay’s complex told investigators she had received about $250,000 in cash in the period before her death — consistent with the settlement funds.

Despite the settlement, police found Lindsay was two months behind on her $2,500 monthly rent by the time of her death. She had borrowed money from tenants and, according to the building manager, some stopped responding when she could not pay them back.

Her ex-husband told police because of the lawsuit, Lindsay had lost contact with her family.

When officers searched her apartment after her death, they reported her thermostat set to 61 degrees, clothing still in the washing machine and notebooks filling the apartment — the handwriting so illegible investigators said they could not decipher it."

An Anchorage woman froze to death. A lawsuit claims a 911 dispatcher failed to get her urgent help.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

If you have two blankets, coats, warm cup of coffee, and your neighbor lacks, GIVE IT TO HIM/HER

It's just wrong to live in fear like these people did

 

[Chuz Life]

This is why I'd never more to Alaska. Wisconsin is cold enough.

This is a sad story, she had a lot of other shit going on in her life...

"Police records reviewed by Alaska’s News Source show Lindsay was dealing with mounting financial, legal and personal pressures in the months before her death. Among them: a two-year legal dispute with her parents over her grandmother’s estate.

Court records show Randy and Susan Kaer had an extensive history of litigation before the dispute with their daughter. They had been defendants in 25 lawsuits dating back to 2003, involving debt collection, eviction, real estate disputes and homeowners’ association complaints — most resolved through settlement or default judgments against them.

They also accumulated significant secured debt: a legal claim filed against their Big Lake, Alaska property in 2020; a $431,386 home equity line of credit on their Anchorage home in 2022; and a $1.345 million refinanced deed of trust on their Big Lake condo, also in 2022. The Kaers also owned a hotel in Juneau.

When Alecia’s grandmother, Ai Liau Mayo, died on June 7, 2022, her will named Lindsay as personal representative of the estate.

Within weeks, her parents filed a civil complaint alleging Lindsay had stolen hundreds of thousands of dollars’ worth of jewelry from her grandmother’s safes.

A court order dated Feb. 7, 2023 removed Lindsay as personal representative of the estate.

In March 2023, the Kaers filed a financing statement using their Juneau hotel as collateral. By January 2024, they had filed additional financing statements using both the Big Lake condo and the Juneau hotel.

Rather than continue litigating, the parties reached a settlement. Under the agreement, signed by all parties and approved by Superior Court Judge Andrew Guidi on Nov. 27, 2023, Lindsay received $256,000 from the estate in exchange for forfeiting all other claims — and returned the jewelry to her parents.

The theft allegations were never proven or disproven in court. The settlement agreement explicitly states it is not an admission of wrongdoing by any party, and no restitution flowed to her parents.

The building manager at Lindsay’s complex told investigators she had received about $250,000 in cash in the period before her death — consistent with the settlement funds.

Despite the settlement, police found Lindsay was two months behind on her $2,500 monthly rent by the time of her death. She had borrowed money from tenants and, according to the building manager, some stopped responding when she could not pay them back.

Her ex-husband told police because of the lawsuit, Lindsay had lost contact with her family.

When officers searched her apartment after her death, they reported her thermostat set to 61 degrees, clothing still in the washing machine and notebooks filling the apartment — the handwriting so illegible investigators said they could not decipher it."

An Anchorage woman froze to death. A lawsuit claims a 911 dispatcher failed to get her urgent help.

Good Gawd, how do people manage to **** up that kind of wealth?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

This is a classic case of common sense colliding with legal facts. There is no obligation whatsoever to help someone in need. BUT, if you do help that person, you are fully and absolutely liable for everything that happens. They choke on a warm cup of coffee. They are allergic to the blanket. You are on the hook for absolutely everything that happens. Good intentions mean nothing.

 

[evenflow1969]

Couple Called 911 After ‘Disoriented’ Woman Knocked on Their Door. She Froze to Death While Waiting for Help to Arrive: Lawsuit

Alecia Ai Lindsay was "left without timely rescue in freezing conditions despite multiple 911 calls," according to the complaint

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NEED TO KNOW​

• Alecia Ai Lindsay, 31, died of hypothermia on Feb. 8, 2024, after authorities were notified that she was outside of a resident’s home and sitting on the ground
• More than two years after her death, her family has filed a lawsuit against the Municipality of Anchorage
• The complaint claimed that if EMS had been dispatched immediately after the first 911 call was placed, Lindsay could have received medical treatment for hypothermia sooner, before she lost consciousness and stopped breathing

The family of an Alaska woman who died of hypothermia amid freezing temperatures has filed a wrongful death lawsuit, alleging that a 911 dispatcher failed to adequately help her in time.

Alecia Ai Lindsay's family filed the complaint on Feb. 5 in Alaska Superior Court, accusing the municipality of Anchorage, its dispatchers and the police department of negligence and liability stemming from the events leading to her death.

According to the complaint obtained by PEOPLE, in the early morning hours of Feb. 7, 2024, Lindsay, 31, drove to Ted Stevens International Airport in Anchorage but did not board her flight. She lost her vehicle at the airport and was driven home by airport police.

In the early afternoon that same day, Lindsay returned to the airport, the complaint said. At around 4:15 p.m. local time, she hailed a vehicle at the airport that took her downtown. The driver of the vehicle later said he called 911 out of concern for Lindsay’s safety as she was standing in the middle of the road.

An Anchorage police detective told Lindsay’s family that authorities made contact with the woman and let her go, thinking that she did not need help at the time, according to the complaint.

The following day, at approximately 7 a.m., Anchorage’s emergency communication center received a call from a man who said that “a woman was knocking on his door sitting on the ground at his residence, appearing disoriented and, possibly homeless, wearing all black, not speaking, and looking ‘kind of weird.’ “

In response, the dispatcher told the caller that officers would be sent to the residence and to call back if anything changed, the complaint alleged.

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Who do YOU think is responsible?

Why didn't the people inside the apartment try to give her some help?
Blankets, hot drink? Ask her if she wants to sit down in their living room?

I understand it's a deadly world out there now, but come on..........freezing to death?
No, you HAVE to do SOMETHING besides call the police!!!

If she had banged on my door she would have gotten help.

 

[Unkotare]

Certainly the people in the apartment have no responsibility whatsoever.

Maybe not legally...

 

[EvilCat Breath]

That is not true. You know better.

Legally it is absolutely true.

Good Samaritan Rule

www.law.cornell.edu

Try educating yourself. I would say you know better but all evidence is you are absolutely ignorant.

 

[braalian]

Couple Called 911 After ‘Disoriented’ Woman Knocked on Their Door. She Froze to Death While Waiting for Help to Arrive: Lawsuit

Alecia Ai Lindsay was "left without timely rescue in freezing conditions despite multiple 911 calls," according to the complaint

www.aol.com

NEED TO KNOW​

• Alecia Ai Lindsay, 31, died of hypothermia on Feb. 8, 2024, after authorities were notified that she was outside of a resident’s home and sitting on the ground
• More than two years after her death, her family has filed a lawsuit against the Municipality of Anchorage
• The complaint claimed that if EMS had been dispatched immediately after the first 911 call was placed, Lindsay could have received medical treatment for hypothermia sooner, before she lost consciousness and stopped breathing

The family of an Alaska woman who died of hypothermia amid freezing temperatures has filed a wrongful death lawsuit, alleging that a 911 dispatcher failed to adequately help her in time.

Alecia Ai Lindsay's family filed the complaint on Feb. 5 in Alaska Superior Court, accusing the municipality of Anchorage, its dispatchers and the police department of negligence and liability stemming from the events leading to her death.

According to the complaint obtained by PEOPLE, in the early morning hours of Feb. 7, 2024, Lindsay, 31, drove to Ted Stevens International Airport in Anchorage but did not board her flight. She lost her vehicle at the airport and was driven home by airport police.

In the early afternoon that same day, Lindsay returned to the airport, the complaint said. At around 4:15 p.m. local time, she hailed a vehicle at the airport that took her downtown. The driver of the vehicle later said he called 911 out of concern for Lindsay’s safety as she was standing in the middle of the road.

An Anchorage police detective told Lindsay’s family that authorities made contact with the woman and let her go, thinking that she did not need help at the time, according to the complaint.

The following day, at approximately 7 a.m., Anchorage’s emergency communication center received a call from a man who said that “a woman was knocking on his door sitting on the ground at his residence, appearing disoriented and, possibly homeless, wearing all black, not speaking, and looking ‘kind of weird.’ “

In response, the dispatcher told the caller that officers would be sent to the residence and to call back if anything changed, the complaint alleged.

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View attachment 1234834

Who do YOU think is responsible?

Why didn't the people inside the apartment try to give her some help?
Blankets, hot drink? Ask her if she wants to sit down in their living room?

I understand it's a deadly world out there now, but come on..........freezing to death?
No, you HAVE to do SOMETHING besides call the police!!!

That photo of her looks absurdly airbrushed

 

[Delldude]

It's not moral responsibility, it's being a civilized human being.

Couple lets cold, freezing woman into house to warm up, gives food and shelter, psychopath warms up, murders good Samaritans.

Why didn't she go into the airport? Sounds like she wasn't all there from the start.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Legally it is absolutely true.

Good Samaritan Rule

www.law.cornell.edu

Try educating yourself. I would say you know better but all evidence is you are absolutely ignorant.

You have obviously never read that.

It says: The Good Samaritan may be held liable if they are negligent in providing those services or if their negligence causes injury either to the person on whose behalf the Good Samaritan is performing services or to a foreseeable third party.

Try reading for comprehension.

 

[LibertyWeeps]

Couple lets cold, freezing woman into house to warm up, gives food and shelter, psychopath warms up, murders good Samaritans.

Why didn't she go into the airport? Sounds like she wasn't all there from the start.

Yes, she was having a mental episode, but she was still a human being.

Apparently something happened at the airport to fry her brain. So lets hope they do some investigation of the security cameras there to see WTF happened.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

You have obviously never read that.

It says: The Good Samaritan may be held liable if they are negligent in providing those services or if their negligence causes injury either to the person on whose behalf the Good Samaritan is performing services or to a foreseeable third party.

Try reading for comprehension.

You have obviously missed the point. Doing nothing results in no liability whatsoever. There is no law mandating an individual to provide aid at all. If you think there is, show us. Find some place where doing nothing results in any liability, civil or criminal.

This is the part you should have understood.

According to common law, a bystander is not under a moral obligation to help if they did not cause the person’s injury. In Hurley v. Eddingfield, the defendant was a family physician who, for no apparent reason, refused to travel to render medical assistance even when he was the only one who could help. The court found that the defendant was not liable, because the defendant did not assume a duty to help.

Since the couple in the apartment did nothing at all, they did nothing wrong by allowing the woman to freeze to death.

 

[Lesh]

Lighten up

The report is very incomplete as so much from the lib media often

It says she lost her car at the airport after failing to board a flight

Lost her car?

What the heck is that all about?

I suspect she was either on drugs or had a mental condition

But cant be sure from the story we are given

Having a mental condition is not an excuse for what happened.

In fact the cops at LEAST… should have realized that and dealt with it accordingly

The guy who locked her out in the cold is just pure shit

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Having a mental condition is not an excuse for what happened.

In fact the cops at LEAST… should have realized that and dealt with it accordingly

The guy who locked her out in the cold is just pure shit

The guy who locked her out did nothing wrong.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You have obviously missed the point. Doing nothing results in no liability whatsoever. There is no law mandating an individual to provide aid at all. If you think there is, show us. Find some place where doing nothing results in any liability, civil or criminal.

This is the part you should have understood.

According to common law, a bystander is not under a moral obligation to help if they did not cause the person’s injury. In Hurley v. Eddingfield, the defendant was a family physician who, for no apparent reason, refused to travel to render medical assistance even when he was the only one who could help. The court found that the defendant was not liable, because the defendant did not assume a duty to help.

Since the couple in the apartment did nothing at all, they did nothing wrong by allowing the woman to freeze to death.

I never claimed that. You claimed that if they offered any help, they could be held responsible which is false. Go back to school and learn how to read.

Post #28 you said:
"BUT, if you do help that person, you are fully and absolutely liable for everything that happens.".

I proved you were wrong with your own ******* link!

 

[Lesh]

The guy who locked her out did nothing wrong.

Legally. No

Ethically and morally he’s a piece of shit