Could Republicans Live On Minimum Wage? NO! But No Fixes To It Either!

[Rotagilla]

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Strange thread title.

What able-bodied person would be willing to live on minimum wage, whatever that might be?

People are capable of significantly improving their own lives, regardless of what they hear from the American Left.

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The hyper partisan DNC operative OP lobbed a bomb in here and ran away to spam another forum with the points they want him to push...leaving the sheep to "baaaa" at each other.

You guys have been played.

"Useful idiots" is what the commies call the easily distracted, malleable, empty headed population who enable their policies.

 

[Mad Scientist]

Ustabee, the Unemployed had to line up at soup kitchens and you got a real easy to see indicator of the Unemployment situation. Now the Unemployed all blend in because they just use their benefit card at the terminal! Genius!

FunFact: JP Morgan and the Banking Industry benefit from food stamps because they run the programs!

 

[francoHFW]

All these programs, UE, Welfare, training etc etc, avert deep depressions like the 30's. You're welcome. And they AREN'T new Obama policies, hater dupes.

 

[francoHFW]

Using the term "commies" immediately shows the world you're a brainwashed dupe of the greedy idiot rich. No one believes that crap anymore, period, except the out of touch elites in China, Cuba, Vietnam, and N. Korea. Only N. Korea hasn't turned to capitalism, and only the GOP believes in savage capitalism. Both proven fails...

 

[LoneLaugher]

Ustabee, the Unemployed had to line up at soup kitchens and you got a real easy to see indicator of the Unemployment situation. Now the Unemployed all blend in because they just use their benefit card at the terminal! Genius!

FunFact: JP Morgan and the Banking Industry benefit from food stamps because they run the programs!

You would like the poor and unemployed to wear some kind of badge? Some way to identify them on the street so you can make them feel embarrassed?

 

[Andylusion]

What is it with these young Republicans that post on here? I've read where three of them have or still do work for minimum wage. For pretty long periods. One thought that going from 5 something an hour to 8 was a major raise.

I am 61 and I am sure you rethugs call me a Demorat. BUT I HAVE NEVER WORKED FOR MINIMUM WAGE IN MY LIFE. And I've been working since I was 15.

What the hell is wrong with you repubs either sitting on your asses all day on a message board with no work to do or working for minimum wage.

Of course I doubt if any of the Repubs are worth more than a minimum wage. You all can't seem to DO anything but suffer with your Obama Derangement Syndrome.

Well first off, I am not a Republican. I am a conservative. It happens that most of the conservatives are Republican, but I would easily vote for a Democrap, provided he was conservative enough. This is why I did not vote for Romney or McCain, because neither of them were conservatives.

That said....

I fully admit I'm a rather pathetic loser. I have not been able to succeed at anything in life. Am I stupid? Am I useless? I have no idea. I'll let you be the judge of that. I gave life my best shot, and lost.

That said, I am still a conservative, and I don't blame employers for my failure, nor do I think somehow I 'deserve' a raise simply because I've sucked air for 40 years.

The reason I'm where I am, is not because "rich people are greedy!" or some other nonsense. It is simply because I have not been able to do something of higher value. Or I am too lazy. Whatever reason floats your boat is fine with me.

Regardless, raising the minimum wage, won't make people more wealthy. It will make them unemployed. That's not a solution.

Damn dude. I am more than sorry I picked on you. I had no idea you struggled so much.
I am liberal enough to have some empathy for you and the only thing I can say is what my Mother told me since I was young; if you can't be happy, be productive.

Sitting on a message board is not productive. Get out and DO something.

Oh believe me, you name it, I've tried it. I've worked at factories, warehouses, every fast food joint you can think of, retail shops, mechanic at a dealership, auto part stores. I tried to start my own business, I worked for IT, pharmaceuticals, assembly lines, and a trucking company driving 18-wheelers.

I am the literal definition of 'jack of all trades, and master of nothing'. I went to college for computer programming, and failed out 3 times. I want back to college for auto mechanics, and broke every car I touched. I want back for engineering, and failed the math.

I've had 36 different jobs in my life. At some point, you simply have to accept what you are, and take life as it is. So I work, mindlessly screwing together metal printers at a tiny local firm, for $10 an hour.

But what I can say from my experiences in having these low wage jobs, is that the minimum wage kills employment. I've personally witnessed it. Every time the minimum wage goes up, people lose their jobs.

And despite the claims on this forum, every research into the effects of minimum wage, each and every single one, showed people losing their jobs.

 

[Rotagilla]

All these programs, UE, Welfare, training etc etc, avert deep depressions like the 30's. You're welcome. And they AREN'T new Obama policies, hater dupes.

hyperpartisan propaganda.

unemployment, welfare, "training" etc...historically have no effect on reducing poverty.

"welfare" has become a generational problem that actually increases poverty by rewarding irresponsible behavior.

 

[Skull Pilot]

What weird glasses are you wearing? I wasn't whining, dummy. I was mocking. The dude lives with Granny. He doesn't have a housing expense. Do yiu understand?

And, yes, we know. You are conservative. That means that you pulled yourself up by your own bootstraps! You are AWESOME!!

I am not a conservative or a liberal or a republican or a democrat.

I am just a guy who is sick of all you pantywaists whining all the time.

You do realize that only 3% of workers earn the federal minimum wage don't you?

In those 3% are included service workers whose tips actually put them well above the minimum wage.

This whole whine fest is a ******* nonissue. You're all just too ******* stupid to realize it.

We've had this discussion a hundred times. You and I are in a similar situation financially. The difference between us is that I care about how the least among us live and you don't. I don't want to drive past a ******* tent city to get from my home to my office......and it wouldn't bother you one bit. I don't want diseases to run wild in the local elementary school because some of the kids couldn't afford to go to a doctor and you chalk it up to "tough shit". Finally, I understand that if the least among us can get ahead.....and earn enough to live and have some extra to spend and save......our economy will benefit and my business will grow.

Not whining. Common sense.

None of which has anything to do with the less than 3% of workers who earn minimum wage.

 

[Rotagilla]

Well first off, I am not a Republican. I am a conservative. It happens that most of the conservatives are Republican, but I would easily vote for a Democrap, provided he was conservative enough. This is why I did not vote for Romney or McCain, because neither of them were conservatives.

That said....

I fully admit I'm a rather pathetic loser. I have not been able to succeed at anything in life. Am I stupid? Am I useless? I have no idea. I'll let you be the judge of that. I gave life my best shot, and lost.

That said, I am still a conservative, and I don't blame employers for my failure, nor do I think somehow I 'deserve' a raise simply because I've sucked air for 40 years.

The reason I'm where I am, is not because "rich people are greedy!" or some other nonsense. It is simply because I have not been able to do something of higher value. Or I am too lazy. Whatever reason floats your boat is fine with me.

Regardless, raising the minimum wage, won't make people more wealthy. It will make them unemployed. That's not a solution.

Damn dude. I am more than sorry I picked on you. I had no idea you struggled so much.
I am liberal enough to have some empathy for you and the only thing I can say is what my Mother told me since I was young; if you can't be happy, be productive.

Sitting on a message board is not productive. Get out and DO something.

Oh believe me, you name it, I've tried it. I've worked at factories, warehouses, every fast food joint you can think of, retail shops, mechanic at a dealership, auto part stores. I tried to start my own business, I worked for IT, pharmaceuticals, assembly lines, and a trucking company driving 18-wheelers.

I am the literal definition of 'jack of all trades, and master of nothing'. I went to college for computer programming, and failed out 3 times. I want back to college for auto mechanics, and broke every car I touched. I want back for engineering, and failed the math.

I've had 36 different jobs in my life. At some point, you simply have to accept what you are, and take life as it is. So I work, mindlessly screwing together metal printers at a tiny local firm, for $10 an hour.

But what I can say from my experiences in having these low wage jobs, is that the minimum wage kills employment. I've personally witnessed it. Every time the minimum wage goes up, people lose their jobs.

And despite the claims on this forum, every research into the effects of minimum wage, each and every single one, showed people losing their jobs.

Using the term "commies" immediately shows the world you're a brainwashed dupe of the greedy idiot rich. No one believes that crap anymore, period, except the out of touch elites in China, Cuba, Vietnam, and N. Korea. Only N. Korea hasn't turned to capitalism, and only the GOP believes in savage capitalism. Both proven fails...

redistribution of money from producers to parasites is a communist principle. None of those nations are remotely considered "capitalist".

 

[LoneLaugher]

Well first off, I am not a Republican. I am a conservative. It happens that most of the conservatives are Republican, but I would easily vote for a Democrap, provided he was conservative enough. This is why I did not vote for Romney or McCain, because neither of them were conservatives.

That said....

I fully admit I'm a rather pathetic loser. I have not been able to succeed at anything in life. Am I stupid? Am I useless? I have no idea. I'll let you be the judge of that. I gave life my best shot, and lost.

That said, I am still a conservative, and I don't blame employers for my failure, nor do I think somehow I 'deserve' a raise simply because I've sucked air for 40 years.

The reason I'm where I am, is not because "rich people are greedy!" or some other nonsense. It is simply because I have not been able to do something of higher value. Or I am too lazy. Whatever reason floats your boat is fine with me.

Regardless, raising the minimum wage, won't make people more wealthy. It will make them unemployed. That's not a solution.

Damn dude. I am more than sorry I picked on you. I had no idea you struggled so much.
I am liberal enough to have some empathy for you and the only thing I can say is what my Mother told me since I was young; if you can't be happy, be productive.

Sitting on a message board is not productive. Get out and DO something.

Oh believe me, you name it, I've tried it. I've worked at factories, warehouses, every fast food joint you can think of, retail shops, mechanic at a dealership, auto part stores. I tried to start my own business, I worked for IT, pharmaceuticals, assembly lines, and a trucking company driving 18-wheelers.

I am the literal definition of 'jack of all trades, and master of nothing'. I went to college for computer programming, and failed out 3 times. I want back to college for auto mechanics, and broke every car I touched. I want back for engineering, and failed the math.

I've had 36 different jobs in my life. At some point, you simply have to accept what you are, and take life as it is. So I work, mindlessly screwing together metal printers at a tiny local firm, for $10 an hour.

But what I can say from my experiences in having these low wage jobs, is that the minimum wage kills employment. I've personally witnessed it. Every time the minimum wage goes up, people lose their jobs.

And despite the claims on this forum, every research into the effects of minimum wage, each and every single one, showed people losing their jobs.

That is not true. Why are you saying it?

 

[Luddly Neddite]

I lived on 5.15 an hour for the better part of a year. I fed and clothed myself adequately. The next job I had paid 8.25 an hour, automatic pay raise for already being proficient in that line of work. That should tell you to work for a raise, not demand one.

Is that a joke?

Why do you continue to weigh in on threads related to work experience and the cost of living? There must be some voice in your head that tells you how absurd it makes you look.

How much was your rent when you lived on $5.15 per hour? Utilities?

Paid for food, clothes, my rent was 40 bucks a month via my father, which was split into paying for all of the utilities, cable, electricity, water... I also helped pay for my cell phone bill back then. Beyond that was unaffordable, 40 bucks was a third of my paycheck for a week. So if I paid more, I risked not having enough to live on until the next payday. I was learning how to stretch a dollar at 18 years of age LoneLaugher.

My last job at the UGA Veterinary School was $8.25 an hour as a janitor, and by the fifth month I had already amassed over $1,100 even after paying for gas, asthma medications, my full cell phone bill, clothing and groceries, oh and I after I had to resign, I used the last 600 bucks to my name to pay off the title on my grandmother's car so she could devote that money to other needs.

If I ever got where I could hold down a job again, I would be sitting pretty. I would know how to save money and spend it wisely. I know how to handle money and I sure as hell know what work experience is, I also know what cost of living is like as well. For you to say I have no experience in those areas is laughable.

It really makes you look foolish to sit there and judge me. So shut it, LL. This is the last time I will explain myself to you.

TK makes an important point in that he was and is being supported. If you're living with granny/mommy/daddy and daddy is subsidizing your rent so you're only paying $40 a month, you're able to save money. TK has said he's able bodied and travels on his family's money but what if the single mother isn't? And what if she doesn't have people supporting her as TK does?

The RWs think that single mothers with no child support should be able save money while working minimum wage and paying full rent, as well as feeding and clothing their kids. And some think she should work two jobs, which many do.

LL is right - TK needs to stick with things he knows about and supporting himself is not one of those things.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

I lived on minimum wage for several years. [/SIZE][/B]

Again the problem is, raising the minimum wage won't fix it either. What it will do is make people unemployed.

The MSNBC crowd is so completely ignorant, that they really believe making people unemployed is a 'fix'.

What is it with these young Republicans that post on here? I've read where three of them have or still do work for minimum wage. For pretty long periods. One thought that going from 5 something an hour to 8 was a major raise.

I am 61 and I am sure you rethugs call me a Demorat. BUT I HAVE NEVER WORKED FOR MINIMUM WAGE IN MY LIFE. And I've been working since I was 15.

What the hell is wrong with you repubs either sitting on your asses all day on a message board with no work to do or working for minimum wage.

Of course I doubt if any of the Repubs are worth more than a minimum wage. You all can't seem to DO anything but suffer with your Obama Derangement Syndrome.

Well first off, I am not a Republican. I am a conservative. It happens that most of the conservatives are Republican, but I would easily vote for a Democrap, provided he was conservative enough. This is why I did not vote for Romney or McCain, because neither of them were conservatives.

That said....

I fully admit I'm a rather pathetic loser. I have not been able to succeed at anything in life. Am I stupid? Am I useless? I have no idea. I'll let you be the judge of that. I gave life my best shot, and lost.

That said, I am still a conservative, and I don't blame employers for my failure, nor do I think somehow I 'deserve' a raise simply because I've sucked air for 40 years.

The reason I'm where I am, is not because "rich people are greedy!" or some other nonsense. It is simply because I have not been able to do something of higher value. Or I am too lazy. Whatever reason floats your boat is fine with me.

Regardless, raising the minimum wage, won't make people more wealthy. It will make them unemployed. That's not a solution.

We've been hearing this ie since Ronnie Ray-Gun sold us out with his trickle down crap and its never been true.

No, working for minimum wage won't make anyone wealthy but it won't put any companies out of business either.

 

[Lovebears65]

Well after all, for the party of the rich why would they even have to worry about earning minimum wage at all? That's for the struggling Middle Class and many others don't you know. But knowing that they, themselves, could not live on minimum wage, how do they expect others who are less financially fortunate than they are to live on it? Good question to which they would rather just prefer to sweep under the carpet and hope Middle Class Americans just forget about it. Oh, but don't forget they are asking for your vote!

Poll: GOP couldn't live on minimum wage, but still won't raise it | MSNBC

wow, you do realize there are more rich people in the democratic party then there is in the republican party and this comes from huffington post In Congress, Democrats Are The Party Of The Rich

 

[Stephanie]

Well after all, for the party of the rich why would they even have to worry about earning minimum wage at all? That's for the struggling Middle Class and many others don't you know. But knowing that they, themselves, could not live on minimum wage, how do they expect others who are less financially fortunate than they are to live on it? Good question to which they would rather just prefer to sweep under the carpet and hope Middle Class Americans just forget about it. Oh, but don't forget they are asking for your vote!

Poll: GOP couldn't live on minimum wage, but still won't raise it | MSNBC

wow, you do realize there are more rich people in the democratic party then there is in the republican party and this comes from huffington post In Congress, Democrats Are The Party Of The Rich

they're another brainwashed tool for the Democrat party
and quite the troll too...they litter the board with the like's of this garbage from msnbc

 

[Jarhead]

I dare anyone to show me a job that pays minimum wage that a 17 year old cant do.

17 year olds do not need to support families of four....and if they do, then they acted irresponsibly and in no way should business owners be blamed.

 

[DGS49]

Wages should be based on one thing: The value of the work performed. This can be determined in some cases directly ((commission sales), but in most cases it is more indirect (VP of Diversity?). Sometimes it is determined by the marketplace. In the late 90's, people who were proficient in obsolete computer languages (COBOL, FORTRAN) could command high salaries because everyone was worrying about the Y2K Bug.

To suppose that wages ought to be determined by the needs of the employee is, like it or not, a communistic, or socialist, or fascistic concept. As is determining wages by government decree (the so-called, "minimum wage").

In all cases, wage by decree results in injustices and economic perversions. People getting their hours cut, people losing their jobs, and so forth.

When I earned minimum wage I was a Democrat. Then I wised up, matured, and grew to better employment through my own effort. No need to mention I'm not a Democrat anymore.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Up the minimum wage to 10.10/hour
Restrict ceo PAY to 300 times the lowest employee. Force them to either invest in the company with that money or pay the workers better.
Make corporate fraud expensive and not worth it. Throw the bums in prison!
Increase income taxes on all making more than 5 million per year to 30%.

Restrict ceo PAY to 300 times the lowest employee.

All the low wage employees would be contract workers. Now what do you do?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Is that a joke?

Why do you continue to weigh in on threads related to work experience and the cost of living? There must be some voice in your head that tells you how absurd it makes you look.

How much was your rent when you lived on $5.15 per hour? Utilities?

If I couldn't pay my bills with the income from one job I worked two.

Stop whining.

And you worked for some super rich mother ****** that paid 15% income taxes. Laughed all the way to the bank on your sweat and blood. Wake up!

Kill the greedy kulaks, eh comrade?

 

[Skull Pilot]

I dare anyone to show me a job that pays minimum wage that a 17 year old cant do.

17 year olds do not need to support families of four....and if they do, then they acted irresponsibly and in no way should business owners be blamed.

Minimum wage workers do not add any value to the product or services they get paid to make or perform.

Minimum wage jobs are the least important part of the chain and there are less than 3% of all workers who earn only the federal minimum wage and in that 3% are service workers who receive tips that actually raise their income well above the federal minimum wage.

So tell me really how is this issue that important?

 

[Skull Pilot]

Minimum wage workers do not add any value to the product or services they get paid to make or perform.

Minimum wage jobs are the least important part of the chain and there are less than 3% of all workers who earn only the federal minimum wage and in that 3% are service workers who receive tips that actually raise their income well above the federal minimum wage.

So tell me really how is this issue that important for the country?