Corrupt Mohamed Bin Salman's Plan to Cut Saudi Oil Production to Sabotage the US economy and Help Trump has Backfired badly

[surada]

You and your beloved Saudi Monarchy still blame Israel for the great Arab oil boycott of the U.S. Fortunately, today the Saudis and Egyptians and Jordanians seem to have finally recognized they must accept the reality of Israel.

Other nations have been blaming Jews for many things for millennia. The Jews originally were themselves a rather strange and often fanatical religious tribal based group. That very fanaticism led to their destruction as a proto-state in the Roman Empire and to the disbursal of their people.

Since then they faced persecution most everywhere, but they found ways to survive. Their deep connections to other Western religions made it hard to ignore or destroy them entirely and gave them a sense of their own “specialness.” Eventually they also became a kind of “people-class” of tiny artisans, urban dwellers, small traders, merchants and ultimately produced their own great financiers. They contributed to world culture and science.

The Jewish nationalist movement and its “return to Zion” after the Holocaust had a powerful emotional pull on Jews everywhere that won U.N. support and the support of all the great powers, including the USSR. Had their tiny state not faced short-sighted Arab nationalist opposition and invasions, they may have not been all the wars, and the new Jewish Homeland may have remained small and been a huge boon to the region, working closely with Palestinian neighbors.

But that didn’t happen. There has been plenty of blame to go around, plenty of tragedy. The great feudal oil monarchies set up by the imperialist West, all the backward Islamist and Arab nationalist movements and leaderships — none of these can be excused for their own benighted contributions to the great tragedy triggered by Jewish Zionism that is now being experienced by millions of Palestinians in Gaza.

Lol. You moron. Faisel agonized over keeping his word.. and Frank Jungers was there. Nixon was stupid or afraid of the Israelis.

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

Lol. You moron. Faisel agonized over keeping his word.. and Frank Jungers was there. Nixon was stupid or afraid of the Israelis.

Nice of you to always remind us of your close and long association with the Saudi Royal Monarchy, and that you think highly of MbS too. Notice I did not mention anything specific about Faisal, Frank Jungers, Nixon … or even call you a “moron.”

 

[MarathonMike]

MBS, the corrupt crooked leader of Saudi Arabia that only came to power because of Trump, AND who gave Kushner a $2B bribe tried to sabotage the US economy by cutting Saudi Oil production substantially in order to increase the price of oil.

Initially his plan was working as US oil went all the way up to $95, but Biden has America pumping max capacity, more than ever before and oil has plummeted down to a great $75 !!

MBS gave Kushner a $2B bribe and only came to power because of Trump, Im sure Trump was directing MBS to cut oil production and sabotage the US economy.

Now Saudi Arabia is screwed as they have lost market share, lost revenue from lower production, and are much worse off.
Karma is a B, and Congress needs t do a real investigation into the $2B bribe MBS gave Kushner.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/03/economy/saudi-arabia-economy-oil-shrinks/index.html

Banker's latest dookie drop, to the basement you go! BAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[surada]

Nice of you to always remind us of your close and long association with the Saudi Royal Monarchy, and that you think highly of MbS too. Notice I did not mention anything specific about Faisal, Frank Jungers, Nixon … or even call you a “moron.”

What do you want specifically about Mr Jungers? They lived 2 doors from us and had a bunch of kids. Nice family.

 

[Pastelli]

MBS, the corrupt crooked leader of Saudi Arabia that only came to power because of Trump, AND who gave Kushner a $2B bribe tried to sabotage the US economy by cutting Saudi Oil production substantially in order to increase the price of oil.

Initially his plan was working as US oil went all the way up to $95, but Biden has America pumping max capacity, more than ever before and oil has plummeted down to a great $75 !!

MBS gave Kushner a $2B bribe and only came to power because of Trump, Im sure Trump was directing MBS to cut oil production and sabotage the US economy.

Now Saudi Arabia is screwed as they have lost market share, lost revenue from lower production, and are much worse off.
Karma is a B, and Congress needs t do a real investigation into the $2B bribe MBS gave Kushner.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/03/economy/saudi-arabia-economy-oil-shrinks/index.html

The closer he gets to the mullahcracy in Tehran, more consolidated power he has.

 

[elektra]

yep, biden and the democrats, after driving up the price of oil and increasing the price of everything have to work extremely hard to lower prices before the election, otherwise the democrats loss will be the largest in history

people do vote with their wallets

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Price is still going down,

 

[surada]

Shouldn't this be in conspiracy theories.

Yes...lots of errors of fact.

 

[surada]

You and your beloved Saudi Monarchy still blame Israel for the great Arab oil boycott of the U.S.? Fortunately, today the Saudi leadership seems to have finally recognized they must accept the reality of Israel.

Other nations have been blaming Jews for many things for millennia. The Jews originally were themselves a rather strange, often quite fanatical religious tribal-based group. That very fanaticism led to their destruction as a proto-state in the Roman Empire and to the disbursal of their people.

Since then they faced persecution most everywhere, but they found ways to survive. Their deep connections to other Western religions made it hard to ignore or destroy them entirely and gave them a sense of their own “specialness.” Eventually they also became a kind of “people-class” of tiny artisans, urban dwellers, small traders, merchants and ultimately produced their own great financiers. They contributed to world culture and science.

The Jewish nationalist movement and its “return to Zion” after the Holocaust had a powerful emotional pull on Jews everywhere that won U.N. support and the support of all the great powers, including the USSR. Had their tiny state not faced short-sighted Arab nationalist opposition and invasions, they may have not been all the wars, and the new Jewish Homeland may have remained small and been a huge boon to the region, working closely with Palestinian neighbors.

But that didn’t happen. There has been plenty of blame to go around, plenty of tragedy. The great feudal oil monarchies set up by the imperialist West, all the backward Islamist and Arab nationalist movements and leaderships — none of these can be excused for their own benighted contributions to the great tragedy triggered by Jewish Zionism that is now being experienced by millions of Palestinians in Gaza.

You and your beloved Saudi Monarchy still blame Israel for the great Arab oil boycott of the U.S.? Fortunately, today the Saudi leadership seems to have finally recognized they must accept the reality of Israel.

Other nations have been blaming Jews for many things for millennia. The Jews originally were themselves a rather strange, often quite fanatical religious tribal-based group. That very fanaticism led to their destruction as a proto-state in the Roman Empire and to the disbursal of their people.

Since then they faced persecution most everywhere, but they found ways to survive. Their deep connections to other Western religions made it hard to ignore or destroy them entirely and gave them a sense of their own “specialness.” Eventually they also became a kind of “people-class” of tiny artisans, urban dwellers, small traders, merchants and ultimately produced their own great financiers. They contributed to world culture and science.

The Jewish nationalist movement and its “return to Zion” after the Holocaust had a powerful emotional pull on Jews everywhere that won U.N. support and the support of all the great powers, including the USSR. Had their tiny state not faced short-sighted Arab nationalist opposition and invasions, they may have not been all the wars, and the new Jewish Homeland may have remained small and been a huge boon to the region, working closely with Palestinian neighbors.

But that didn’t happen. There has been plenty of blame to go around, plenty of tragedy. The great feudal oil monarchies set up by the imperialist West, all the backward Islamist and Arab nationalist movements and leaderships — none of these can be excused for their own benighted contributions to the great tragedy triggered by Jewish Zionism that is now being experienced by millions of Palestinians in Gaza.

I thought you knew that Nixon bailed the Israelis out when they were losing. That's what triggered the oil embargo.

It was a very hard decision..at least they continued to supply our troops in Vietnam.

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

I thought you knew that Nixon bailed the Israelis out when they were losing. That's what triggered the oil embargo.

It was a very hard decision..at least they continued to supply our troops in Vietnam.

I would be interested in reading something you might recommend about the thinking in Saudi Arabia especially among the Royal Family at the time they decided to introduce the oil embargo. Can you suggest any good articles or essays on the subject?

 

[surada]

I would be interested in reading something you might recommend about the thinking in Saudi Arabia especially among the Royal Family at the time they decided to introduce the oil embargo. Can you suggest any good articles or essays on the subject?

Yes, you can probably find it on the internet. See an interview with Frank Jungers.

 

[surada]

I would be interested in reading something you might recommend about the thinking in Saudi Arabia especially among the Royal Family at the time they decided to introduce the oil embargo. Can you suggest any good articles or essays on the subject?

I found it pretty easily.

Interviews - Frank Jungers | House Of Saud | FRONTLINE | PBS

 

[Crepitus]

MBS, the corrupt crooked leader of Saudi Arabia that only came to power because of Trump, AND who gave Kushner a $2B bribe tried to sabotage the US economy by cutting Saudi Oil production substantially in order to increase the price of oil.

Initially his plan was working as US oil went all the way up to $95, but Biden has America pumping max capacity, more than ever before and oil has plummeted down to a great $75 !!

MBS gave Kushner a $2B bribe and only came to power because of Trump, Im sure Trump was directing MBS to cut oil production and sabotage the US economy.

Now Saudi Arabia is screwed as they have lost market share, lost revenue from lower production, and are much worse off.
Karma is a B, and Congress needs t do a real investigation into the $2B bribe MBS gave Kushner.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/03/economy/saudi-arabia-economy-oil-shrinks/index.html

Not really far fetched at all.

 

[surada]

Tom Paine 1949

I dropped it by accident.

Embargo begins in the middle of the interview , but it's pretty interesting ar least to me.

Interviews - Frank Jungers | House Of Saud | FRONTLINE | PBS

 

[westwall]

Yes, killing journalists is so MAGA, isn't it. ******Mod edit: Personal attacks towards forum members should be kept downstairs.

Nope. That's a leftist thing.

You know, YOU!

 

[frigidweirdo]

MBS, the corrupt crooked leader of Saudi Arabia that only came to power because of Trump, AND who gave Kushner a $2B bribe tried to sabotage the US economy by cutting Saudi Oil production substantially in order to increase the price of oil.

Initially his plan was working as US oil went all the way up to $95, but Biden has America pumping max capacity, more than ever before and oil has plummeted down to a great $75 !!

MBS gave Kushner a $2B bribe and only came to power because of Trump, Im sure Trump was directing MBS to cut oil production and sabotage the US economy.

Now Saudi Arabia is screwed as they have lost market share, lost revenue from lower production, and are much worse off.
Karma is a B, and Congress needs t do a real investigation into the $2B bribe MBS gave Kushner.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/03/economy/saudi-arabia-economy-oil-shrinks/index.html

He only gained power because of Trump? Also, he's not the head of state of Saudi Arabia, Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud is.Mohamed bin Salman is the Crown Prince and Prime Minister of the country. So, yes, he effectively runs the country, however his predicesor as Crown Prince was dismissed, and not because of Trump.

Mohammed bin Salman - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"The change of succession had been predicted in December 2015 by an unusually blunt and public memo published by the German Federal Intelligence Service"

It's not like this wasn't inevitable.

The Saudis are one of the main players in OPEC, however they will often not be seen as totally going against the US, when Venezuela wanted to strengthen OPEC, Bush had him deposed and then went after OPEC countries with the invasion of Iraq, and then Obama, Cameron etc went after Libya and Venezuela and Iran have had huge sanctions put against them.

But the Saudis don't like the US, but will keep on an uncomfortable course with the US. The problem is the Saudis did a deal with the Russians to reduce oil production and the Russians were like "we'll wait till the price rises, then sell loads, ef you"

 

[BackAgain]

MBS, the corrupt crooked leader of Saudi Arabia that only came to power because of Trump, AND who gave Kushner a $2B bribe tried to sabotage the US economy by cutting Saudi Oil production substantially in order to increase the price of oil.

Initially his plan was working as US oil went all the way up to $95, but Biden has America pumping max capacity, more than ever before and oil has plummeted down to a great $75 !!

MBS gave Kushner a $2B bribe and only came to power because of Trump, Im sure Trump was directing MBS to cut oil production and sabotage the US economy.

Now Saudi Arabia is screwed as they have lost market share, lost revenue from lower production, and are much worse off.
Karma is a B, and Congress needs t do a real investigation into the $2B bribe MBS gave Kushner.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/03/economy/saudi-arabia-economy-oil-shrinks/index.html

 

[surada]

You and your beloved Saudi Monarchy still blame Israel for the great Arab oil boycott of the U.S.? Fortunately, today the Saudi leadership seems to have finally recognized they must accept the reality of Israel.

Other nations have been blaming Jews for many things for millennia. The Jews originally were themselves a rather strange, often quite fanatical religious tribal-based group. That very fanaticism led to their destruction as a proto-state in the Roman Empire and to the disbursal of their people.

Since then they faced persecution most everywhere, but they found ways to survive. Their deep connections to other Western religions made it hard to ignore or destroy them entirely and gave them a sense of their own “specialness.” Eventually they also became a kind of “people-class” of tiny artisans, urban dwellers, small traders, merchants and ultimately produced their own great financiers. They contributed to world culture and science.

The Jewish nationalist movement and its “return to Zion” after the Holocaust had a powerful emotional pull on Jews everywhere that won U.N. support and the support of all the great powers, including the USSR. Had their tiny state not faced short-sighted Arab nationalist opposition and invasions, they may have not been all the wars, and the new Jewish Homeland may have remained small and been a huge boon to the region, working closely with Palestinian neighbors.

But that didn’t happen. There has been plenty of blame to go around, plenty of tragedy. The great feudal oil monarchies set up by the imperialist West, all the backward Islamist and Arab nationalist movements and leaderships — none of these can be excused for their own benighted contributions to the great tragedy triggered by Jewish Zionism that is now being experienced by millions of Palestinians in Gaza.

Read Moishe Dayan. They worked hard to provoke Syria and Lebanon because they were never satisfied. They wanted more land and water assets.

Hamas is no better. They are Muslim Brotherhood like Osama bin Laden and Khashoggi.
.

 

[surada]

You and your beloved Saudi Monarchy still blame Israel for the great Arab oil boycott of the U.S.? Fortunately, today the Saudi leadership seems to have finally recognized they must accept the reality of Israel.

Other nations have been blaming Jews for many things for millennia. The Jews originally were themselves a rather strange, often quite fanatical religious tribal-based group. That very fanaticism led to their destruction as a proto-state in the Roman Empire and to the disbursal of their people.

Since then they faced persecution most everywhere, but they found ways to survive. Their deep connections to other Western religions made it hard to ignore or destroy them entirely and gave them a sense of their own “specialness.” Eventually they also became a kind of “people-class” of tiny artisans, urban dwellers, small traders, merchants and ultimately produced their own great financiers. They contributed to world culture and science.

The Jewish nationalist movement and its “return to Zion” after the Holocaust had a powerful emotional pull on Jews everywhere that won U.N. support and the support of all the great powers, including the USSR. Had their tiny state not faced short-sighted Arab nationalist opposition and invasions, they may have not been all the wars, and the new Jewish Homeland may have remained small and been a huge boon to the region, working closely with Palestinian neighbors.

But that didn’t happen. There has been plenty of blame to go around, plenty of tragedy. The great feudal oil monarchies set up by the imperialist West, all the backward Islamist and Arab nationalist movements and leaderships — none of these can be excused for their own benighted contributions to the great tragedy triggered by Jewish Zionism that is now being experienced by millions of Palestinians in Gaza.

What great feudal oil monarchies did the imperialists set up?

 

[gtopa1]

Yes. Israel caused that. My neighbor was with the king. Sad times and tough decisions .
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So you think Egypt's alignment with the Soviets at the time had nothing to do with it?? Seems to me that attacking Israel on Yom Kippur wasn't exactly a friendly gesture!!

Greg