Cops and guard members are not music lovers.

True, but that isn't law enforcement. It is crowd control. Most mattock handles are too long, and do not come with the leather strap as issued riot batons do (or at least did, back in the day), which helps maintain control of the baton, for effectiveness, and the short length is better for operations in actual riot formations, that are basically only slightly more than shoulder to shoulder and in depth with multiple lines behind the front line. A mattock handle's length would interfere with troops to your right, left or rear.
Nah, worked great. The bulbous end was better for pushing too. That and at 36" it was the same length as a wooden riot baton (I just measured the one I have). Can't say about the fancy plastic ones.

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When/if swinging time came it was a lot more effective than a baton too, more weight up front without being too heavy like say a ball bat. ;)
 
Nah, worked great. The bulbous end was better for pushing too. That and at 36" it was the same length as a wooden riot baton (I just measured the one I have). Can't say about the fancy plastic ones.

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When/if swinging time came it was a lot more effective than a baton too, more weight up front without being too heavy like say a ball bat. ;)
I was thinking they were the same length as axe handles. I will point out, swinging is not one of the techniques taught or encouraged, as it opens your stance, which is a vulnerability. Also, in the instruction, attention is paid to body points, not to be struck, as lethality, broken bones or life threatening injury is not the point, but crowd control is, that is why emphasis is on the formations in depth and use of the short stroke and long stroke to forcibly and painfully push back from the crowd from forward line of advancing troops, in order to march forward dispelling crowd as you go, is more accurate to the training, technique and strategy.
 
I was thinking they were the same length as axe handles. I will point out, swinging is not one of the techniques taught or encouraged, as it opens your stance, which is a vulnerability. Also, in the instruction, attention is paid to body points, not to be struck, as lethality, broken bones or life threatening injury is not the point, but crowd control is, that is why emphasis is on the formations in depth and use of the short stroke and long stroke to forcibly and painfully push back from the crowd from forward line of advancing troops, in order to march forward dispelling crowd as you go, is more accurate to the training, technique and strategy.
Prison riots are, well, different. ;)
 
Yes. Thanks. Are you, or is truth a hard pill to swallow?
Shit... you wouldn't know the truth if it hit in your head.... you are so brainwashed truth can't get in....
 
Prison riots are, well, different. ;)
Dude! I am totally in favor of you beating the ever-luvin shit out of rioting convicts!
 
Peaceful, playing loud music, disturbing the peace.

Intentionally following and playing is interfering with law enforcement

The person committed a crime, purposefully
Horseshit. It's called nonviolent resistance. Too bad the terrorism Dear Leader has been claiming hasn't come to fruition, eh?

He was released without charges after being illegally detained in handcuffs for 20 minutes.

Now we just need 50 people following the Guard playing doom music.

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I actually feel sorry for the Guard. They were forced to leave their families and deploy to cities that are on fire. :laughing0301:

This all must feel pretty ******* stupid to them.

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