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MOST OF YOUR POLICIES ROCK! However, throwing Gavin Newsome in jail will only make him a marytar, de DON'T want that. Also, this nation's Christians roots and traditions must be protected at ALL costs. Those are my only problems with your list. Everything else is great.
God bless America and our good President!
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You are on SERIOUS DRUGS! Those brave justices are defending what is right. THIS NATION IS A CHRISTIAN ONE. OUR FOUNDING FATHERS NEVER MEANT FOR THERE TO BE A SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND STATE. OUR CHRISTIAN TARDITONS, VALUES, AND INSTITUTIONS MUST BE PROTECTED AT ALL COSTS. GOD IS ACKNOWLEDGED IN ALL STATE CONSTITUTIONS. TRYING TO TAKE WHAT MADE OUR NATION GREAT IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND SACRILIGIOUS!
God bless America and our good President!
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Still, it's better than letting Newsom just get away with it. As for the traditional values, I'm all for protecting that, which is why I'm for eliminating state-sponsored atheism. I just didn't list anything specific up there.
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How would i do things...Good question.
1)Start making preparations for Iran and Syria.
2)Cut taxes on gas and promote oil exploration in the United States.
3)Fight for judges who interpret the Constitution as its written
4)Annex Mexico, create about 20 more states from it. thereby ending the illegal immigration problem and making our southern boarder much smaller and easier to guard and allowing businesses more oportunities for investment.
5)Pull any and all support for a Palestinian state until they stop using terrorism and let Israel off its leash with full permission to annex the land terrorism doesnt end.
6)Do an audit of the federal government. Senator Daschle says there is tons of money in the budget that he doesnt know where it goes to, well i want to find out and then use to build up the military and fix the education program. and then give the rest back to the people. God only asks us to volenteer 10% there is no way in hell the government should be demanding 30%.
7)Repeal McCain Feingold and put in force a campaign finance law that says anyone can donate as much as they want to anyone they want as long as there is full disclosure of who does what so if there is any corruption the people can vote the corrupters out of office rather than trying to end free speech to end corruption in politics.
1)Start making preparations for Iran and Syria.
2)Cut taxes on gas and promote oil exploration in the United States.
3)Fight for judges who interpret the Constitution as its written
4)Annex Mexico, create about 20 more states from it. thereby ending the illegal immigration problem and making our southern boarder much smaller and easier to guard and allowing businesses more oportunities for investment.
5)Pull any and all support for a Palestinian state until they stop using terrorism and let Israel off its leash with full permission to annex the land terrorism doesnt end.
6)Do an audit of the federal government. Senator Daschle says there is tons of money in the budget that he doesnt know where it goes to, well i want to find out and then use to build up the military and fix the education program. and then give the rest back to the people. God only asks us to volenteer 10% there is no way in hell the government should be demanding 30%.
7)Repeal McCain Feingold and put in force a campaign finance law that says anyone can donate as much as they want to anyone they want as long as there is full disclosure of who does what so if there is any corruption the people can vote the corrupters out of office rather than trying to end free speech to end corruption in politics.
What do you think we're doing now?
If you secure it the way it is now there won't be anything there when you need it.
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Totally. Although I am not sure how feasible the annexation of Mexico would be. But since it seems most of them are already voting with their feet it wouldnt be too tough. just might cost alot.
We've had this discussion before, but I'll say it again. THIS IS NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION! Our founders absolutely wanted a separation of church and state. Church-state issues are exactly what led some of the first people from England to settle here. When our country was founded there were Catholics, Protestants, Jews, and even Muslims already here. It is absolutely incorrect to say that this was founded as a Christian nation. The majority of those who were involved in the formation would've told you they subscribed to some form of Christianity, but they were from many different denominations. John Adams was a Unitarian Universalist, Madison, Franklin and Jefferson were Deists, Washington was Episcopalian. There were Presbyterians, Lutherans, Methodists, and Baptists, too. They wrote a separation of Church and state into the first amendment to the Constitution, specifically prohibiting Congress from establishing a state religion. I believe they also meant to prevent Congress from endorsing any religion over another at all. Jefferson and Madison successfully fought a bill in Virginia that would've given special tax breaks to Christian clergy. Thomas Jefferson's epitaph even mentions that he was the author of Virginia's statute for religious Freedom.
This is not, has not, and I hope will never be a Christian nation. If it becomes a Christian theocracy in the tradition of Iran's Islamic Theocracy, which is exactly what people like Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell and John Ashcroft want, I'm outta here.
acludem
This is not, has not, and I hope will never be a Christian nation. If it becomes a Christian theocracy in the tradition of Iran's Islamic Theocracy, which is exactly what people like Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell and John Ashcroft want, I'm outta here.
acludem
Why didn't they say so, then? You won't find the phrase,"Seperation of church and state" anywhere in the Constitution. You will, however, find references to being endowed by our Creator, and other theocratic horseshit like that.
They did this to protect the church from the state, not the other way around. They came here seeking freedom of religion, not freedom from religion. And they certainly didn't come here to have their religious freedoms trampled by a hateful, atheistic state.
Will you be car-pooling with Alec Baldwin?
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Clarification:
Catholocism is NOT a form of Christianity.
It is pure and simple: a cult.
The catholics MAY have a relationship with Christ as scripture would dictate contrary to catholocisms teachings or practices, but catholocism as mandated and listed under their own doctrine is NOT Christianity.
The first amendment was written to protect the church from the state and vice versa. Jefferson and Madison were both dedicated to separation of church and state. In a representative democracy, in any free country, religion must be kept entirely separate from the government. Otherwise you end up with Iran. I realize to some of you, having a theocracy like Iran is an attractive proposition.
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Come on, Acludem. Try to think like a founding father for a minute. From his viewpoint (incidentally, a viewpoint born of religious persecution), what conceivable harm could the church bring to the state?! Think about the entire thrust of the US Constitution. The STATE is the monster here.
That is nothing but baseless, unfounded fearmongering. If you truly believe that, I pity you.
How? By having every vestige of religious belief hounded out of public life by a hateful, atheistic state? You'd have been a barrel of laughs at the framing of the Constitution. From whom do we derive our inalienable rights-Madeline Murray O'Hare?
In a free country, the state should remain NEUTRAL on religion. That doesn't mean atheistic, that means neutral, meaning no opinion or preference.
That is exactly what our founders intended. And what harm can a church do to the state? Have you ever heard of the Inquisition? How about the Crusades? Perhaps maybe you've heard of the Ayatollahs in Iran? All cases where church took over the state and turned it into a theocracy.
acludem
That is exactly what our founders intended. And what harm can a church do to the state? Have you ever heard of the Inquisition? How about the Crusades? Perhaps maybe you've heard of the Ayatollahs in Iran? All cases where church took over the state and turned it into a theocracy.
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Catholocism and Islam are cults, and one is an embodiment of terrorism while the other is the embodiment of ego. -Man claiming to BE God.
If you want an example in the other direction, look at Judaism and Israel. However, you are right in only 1 respect. The Constitution clearly dictates no government sponsored or sanctified religion. In other words, a judge may put a voodoo doll on his bench, or hang the Ten Commandments. That is the individual's right. The government cannot also demand either taken down. That would be infringement -forbidden under the Constitution.
BUT......As we all know, all of the documents clarify the highest authority-God, gave us the format of our governmental Constitution, and it is in Him we trust and look up to in regard to the HIGHER authority.
So while the letter of the law would dictate no religios mandate or preference or adjustment AGAINST such, the idea is that all law is to be made keeping God's will in mind.
Wether you like it or not, that is clearly scriptural, AND DOCUMENTED by wording of naming and referring to our creator in the original founding documents.
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