Conservatives push their totalitarian excesses in the classroom

[Bfgrn]

Conservatives Re-Write Declaration of Independence

The Civil Rights Movement created "unrealistic expectations of equal outcomes" among minorities, according to Texas conservatives trying to rewrite American history textbooks. They want students to learn that bit of undemocratic, phony history.

Imagine Thomas Jefferson opening the Declaration of Independence with, "We hold these truths to be self-evident, no one should have unrealistic expectations of human equality..."

The Texas State Board of Education, dominated by anti-evolution, authoritarian ideologues, has made news around the world for trying to rewrite history. They want Confederate President Jefferson Davis' words given equal treatment with President Abraham Lincoln's. Now there's an example of an unrealistic expectation of equality.

This is all taking place in the Texas textbook adoption process, a process that influences books studied by students around the country. Texas is big, and its schools order a lot of books. To keep costs down, textbook publishers push those books in other states.

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I grew up in Texas. In the '60s conservatives were fond of teaching the dangers of Soviet communism. At the top of their list of abuses was the Soviet Union's rewriting of history and its ideological abuse of science. I happen to agree about these totalitarian excesses. But doesn't it sound familiar? There's no climate crisis, and Jefferson didn't mean it about the equality stuff. I guess it depends on who, exactly, is twisting science and history. That is just what conservatives once condemned as "situation ethics." Hypocrisy is a slippery slope.

Whole article...

 

[Charles Stucker]

Not everyone on the Left is an idiot, but the author of the story was.
How can you expect equal outcomes when everyone has different levels of ability and ambition?
Should we reward the lazy wastrel for saving nothing because he has to have "outcome" equal to the hard worker who saved 20% of his income every year? That is the crux of the problem - too many lazy, stupid, or dopehead sloths want to be given the same outcome as the industrious bright people and catering to thos slothful parasites makes it that much harder for the diligent worker to get ahead.

 

[SFC Ollie]

Conservatives Re-Write Declaration of Independence

The Civil Rights Movement created "unrealistic expectations of equal outcomes" among minorities, according to Texas conservatives trying to rewrite American history textbooks. They want students to learn that bit of undemocratic, phony history.

Imagine Thomas Jefferson opening the Declaration of Independence with, "We hold these truths to be self-evident, no one should have unrealistic expectations of human equality..."

The Texas State Board of Education, dominated by anti-evolution, authoritarian ideologues, has made news around the world for trying to rewrite history. They want Confederate President Jefferson Davis' words given equal treatment with President Abraham Lincoln's. Now there's an example of an unrealistic expectation of equality.

This is all taking place in the Texas textbook adoption process, a process that influences books studied by students around the country. Texas is big, and its schools order a lot of books. To keep costs down, textbook publishers push those books in other states.

...

I grew up in Texas. In the '60s conservatives were fond of teaching the dangers of Soviet communism. At the top of their list of abuses was the Soviet Union's rewriting of history and its ideological abuse of science. I happen to agree about these totalitarian excesses. But doesn't it sound familiar? There's no climate crisis, and Jefferson didn't mean it about the equality stuff. I guess it depends on who, exactly, is twisting science and history. That is just what conservatives once condemned as "situation ethics." Hypocrisy is a slippery slope.

Whole article...

The Huff post? Are you shitting me? Total waste of time.

 

[Bfgrn]

Not everyone on the Left is an idiot, but the author of the story was.
How can you expect equal outcomes when everyone has different levels of ability and ambition?
Should we reward the lazy wastrel for saving nothing because he has to have "outcome" equal to the hard worker who saved 20% of his income every year? That is the crux of the problem - too many lazy, stupid, or dopehead sloths want to be given the same outcome as the industrious bright people and catering to thos slothful parasites makes it that much harder for the diligent worker to get ahead.

Yea, that's what you right wingers need to believe. It allows you to think you are human...you're not...

No one, whether they be liberal or conservative believes in rewarding laziness. But what is happening in America is hard working people are sinking.

The REAL problem today...TOO MANY people that are playing by the rules are failing.

 

[midcan5]

This is another example of why we are becoming a dumb nation. Parents today want to control the classroom curriculum in the false belief that time and ideas do not change. Instead of granting their children the opportunity and freedom to think about all sorts of things, they want them controlled. Not sure how we resolve the reactionary aspect of conservatives. Progress is a snail.


Jonathan Haidt on the moral roots of liberals and conservatives | Video on TED.com

Robert Wright on optimism | Video on TED.com

 

[sparky]

They want Confederate President Jefferson Davis' words given equal treatment with President Abraham Lincoln's

sounds more like southern appologists than conservatism to me......

The REAL problem today...TOO MANY people that are playing by the rules are failing.

yup, yet the excuses for that failure according to the right are individual, on the left systemic , Bfgrn

except for the rich, they get socialism in America if they fail, and nobody calls them one....


~S~

 

[Charles Stucker]

No one, whether they be liberal or conservative believes in rewarding laziness. But what is happening in America is hard working people are sinking.

The hard workers re sinking because the Democrats with their Socialist policies are placing too heavy a monkey on the backs of the hard workers. Just so they can garner votes from lazy people.

 

[ihopehefails]

This is another example of why we are becoming a dumb nation. Parents today want to control the classroom curriculum in the false belief that time and ideas do not change. Instead of granting their children the opportunity and freedom to think about all sorts of things, they want them controlled. Not sure how we resolve the reactionary aspect of conservatives. Progress is a snail.


Jonathan Haidt on the moral roots of liberals and conservatives | Video on TED.com

Robert Wright on optimism | Video on TED.com

The great crime: Parents today want to control the classroom curriculum

 

[ihopehefails]

Conservatives Re-Write Declaration of Independence

The Civil Rights Movement created "unrealistic expectations of equal outcomes" among minorities, according to Texas conservatives trying to rewrite American history textbooks. They want students to learn that bit of undemocratic, phony history.

Imagine Thomas Jefferson opening the Declaration of Independence with, "We hold these truths to be self-evident, no one should have unrealistic expectations of human equality..."

The Texas State Board of Education, dominated by anti-evolution, authoritarian ideologues, has made news around the world for trying to rewrite history. They want Confederate President Jefferson Davis' words given equal treatment with President Abraham Lincoln's. Now there's an example of an unrealistic expectation of equality.

This is all taking place in the Texas textbook adoption process, a process that influences books studied by students around the country. Texas is big, and its schools order a lot of books. To keep costs down, textbook publishers push those books in other states.

...

I grew up in Texas. In the '60s conservatives were fond of teaching the dangers of Soviet communism. At the top of their list of abuses was the Soviet Union's rewriting of history and its ideological abuse of science. I happen to agree about these totalitarian excesses. But doesn't it sound familiar? There's no climate crisis, and Jefferson didn't mean it about the equality stuff. I guess it depends on who, exactly, is twisting science and history. That is just what conservatives once condemned as "situation ethics." Hypocrisy is a slippery slope.

Whole article...

I believe human freedom was more important than human equality because why should I be able to demand my neighbor be my equal? What right do I have when his pursuit of happiness does not involuntarily interfere with my life?

 

[rdean]

No one, whether they be liberal or conservative believes in rewarding laziness. But what is happening in America is hard working people are sinking.

The hard workers re sinking because the Democrats with their Socialist policies are placing too heavy a monkey on the backs of the hard workers. Just so they can garner votes from lazy people.

Who works harder? Takes a lot of hard work to become a "scientist". And what do those scientists do? Well, I mean besides medicine, engineering, agricultural, weapons for our armed forces, materials for everything from what we wear to what our houses are made out of.

And all of that hard work is 6% Republican? Yep, only 6%. And considering what Republicans think of education, it's probably work that had to be done over anyway. So who works harder? I would say in this case, it's a "slam dunk".

put up your link for the chart rdean.

care

It's a shame that Republicans have to depend so much on Democrats to take care of them. Sad, really.

 

[rdean]

This is another example of why we are becoming a dumb nation. Parents today want to control the classroom curriculum in the false belief that time and ideas do not change. Instead of granting their children the opportunity and freedom to think about all sorts of things, they want them controlled. Not sure how we resolve the reactionary aspect of conservatives. Progress is a snail.


Jonathan Haidt on the moral roots of liberals and conservatives | Video on TED.com

Robert Wright on optimism | Video on TED.com

The great crime: Parents today want to control the classroom curriculum

Good parents want their children to learn the "truth" and not simply be indoctrinated. There is a name for indoctrinated children. The name is "victim".

 

[Old Rocks]

No one, whether they be liberal or conservative believes in rewarding laziness. But what is happening in America is hard working people are sinking.

The hard workers re sinking because the Democrats with their Socialist policies are placing too heavy a monkey on the backs of the hard workers. Just so they can garner votes from lazy people.

Sure, idiot. The fact that the very wealthy pay a much smaller portion of their income in taxes has nothing to do with it. The fact that you Repuklicans have been actively engaged in union busting for the last 50 years has nothing to do with it. Or the fact that you have actually gave tax incentatives to move industries overseas.

Guys like you are the enemy of the working man, people like myself.

 

[Old Rocks]

Conservatives Re-Write Declaration of Independence

The Civil Rights Movement created "unrealistic expectations of equal outcomes" among minorities, according to Texas conservatives trying to rewrite American history textbooks. They want students to learn that bit of undemocratic, phony history.

Imagine Thomas Jefferson opening the Declaration of Independence with, "We hold these truths to be self-evident, no one should have unrealistic expectations of human equality..."

The Texas State Board of Education, dominated by anti-evolution, authoritarian ideologues, has made news around the world for trying to rewrite history. They want Confederate President Jefferson Davis' words given equal treatment with President Abraham Lincoln's. Now there's an example of an unrealistic expectation of equality.

This is all taking place in the Texas textbook adoption process, a process that influences books studied by students around the country. Texas is big, and its schools order a lot of books. To keep costs down, textbook publishers push those books in other states.

...

I grew up in Texas. In the '60s conservatives were fond of teaching the dangers of Soviet communism. At the top of their list of abuses was the Soviet Union's rewriting of history and its ideological abuse of science. I happen to agree about these totalitarian excesses. But doesn't it sound familiar? There's no climate crisis, and Jefferson didn't mean it about the equality stuff. I guess it depends on who, exactly, is twisting science and history. That is just what conservatives once condemned as "situation ethics." Hypocrisy is a slippery slope.

Whole article...

I believe human freedom was more important than human equality because why should I be able to demand my neighbor be my equal? What right do I have when his pursuit of happiness does not involuntarily interfere with my life?

Hopeless, I have seen no indication that you value freedom.

 

[elvis]

No one, whether they be liberal or conservative believes in rewarding laziness. But what is happening in America is hard working people are sinking.

The hard workers re sinking because the Democrats with their Socialist policies are placing too heavy a monkey on the backs of the hard workers. Just so they can garner votes from lazy people.

Sure, idiot. The fact that the very wealthy pay a much smaller portion of their income in taxes has nothing to do with it. The fact that you Repuklicans have been actively engaged in union busting for the last 50 years has nothing to do with it. Or the fact that you have actually gave tax incentatives to move industries overseas.

Guys like you are the enemy of the working man, people like myself.

which president signed NAFTA?

 

[Old Rocks]

The hard workers re sinking because the Democrats with their Socialist policies are placing too heavy a monkey on the backs of the hard workers. Just so they can garner votes from lazy people.

Sure, idiot. The fact that the very wealthy pay a much smaller portion of their income in taxes has nothing to do with it. The fact that you Repuklicans have been actively engaged in union busting for the last 50 years has nothing to do with it. Or the fact that you have actually gave tax incentatives to move industries overseas.

Guys like you are the enemy of the working man, people like myself.

which president signed NAFTA?

Bush the 1st created it, and Clinton signed it.

 

[elvis]

Sure, idiot. The fact that the very wealthy pay a much smaller portion of their income in taxes has nothing to do with it. The fact that you Repuklicans have been actively engaged in union busting for the last 50 years has nothing to do with it. Or the fact that you have actually gave tax incentatives to move industries overseas.

Guys like you are the enemy of the working man, people like myself.

which president signed NAFTA?

Bush the 1st created it, and Clinton signed it.

but Clinton wasn't a republican.

 

[Samson]

This is another example of why we are becoming a dumb nation. Parents today want to control the classroom curriculum in the false belief that time and ideas do not change. Instead of granting their children the opportunity and freedom to think about all sorts of things, they want them controlled. Not sure how we resolve the reactionary aspect of conservatives. Progress is a snail.


Jonathan Haidt on the moral roots of liberals and conservatives | Video on TED.com

Robert Wright on optimism | Video on TED.com

The great crime: Parents today want to control the classroom curriculum

Good parents want their children to learn the "truth" and not simply be indoctrinated. There is a name for indoctrinated children. The name is "victim".

So......they should believe everything Glenn W. Smith writes?

What is Glen's Expertise?

He has spent the past 30 years in journalism and politics, where he’s "made a name for himself" as a writer, campaign manager, activist, think tank analyst and, as Daily Kos founder Markos Moulitsas says, a “legendary political consultant and all-around good guy.”

I see.

He has no credentials in history, no experience writing text books, and no teaching credentials. In fact, in reading his Bio, I don't see that he's received a degree in ANYTHING, worked a fucking honest day in his life, or knows diddly about anything practical.

 

[Oddball]

This is another example of why we are becoming a dumb nation. Parents today want to control the classroom curriculum in the false belief that time and ideas do not change. Instead of granting their children the opportunity and freedom to think about all sorts of things, they want them controlled. Not sure how we resolve the reactionary aspect of conservatives. Progress is a snail.

GREAT CAESAR'S GHOST!!

How DARE the customer be so pretentious to know what they want to be served, and how they want it delivered?!?!???

Is it any wonder that collectivist-authoritarian drips like you are viewed as arrogant disconnected snobs?

 

[Samson]

GREAT CAESAR'S GHOST!!

Channeling Perry White this evening?

 

[Charles Stucker]

No one, whether they be liberal or conservative believes in rewarding laziness. But what is happening in America is hard working people are sinking.

The hard workers re sinking because the Democrats with their Socialist policies are placing too heavy a monkey on the backs of the hard workers. Just so they can garner votes from lazy people.

Who works harder? Takes a lot of hard work to become a "scientist". And what do those scientists do? Well, I mean besides medicine, engineering, agricultural, weapons for our armed forces, materials for everything from what we wear to what our houses are made out of.

And all of that hard work is 6% Republican? Yep, only 6%. And considering what Republicans think of education, it's probably work that had to be done over anyway. So who works harder? I would say in this case, it's a "slam dunk".

It's a shame that Republicans have to depend so much on Democrats to take care of them. Sad, really.

My personal experience tells me your statistics are the third type (from Twain "there are three types of lies; lies, damn lies, and statistics)
The engineers and scientists I know are overwhelmingly conservative, while the welfare recipients are the reverse (Democrat to the bone)

That you fall back on your tired little lie at every turn indicates you know zip about science and less about politics.