Conservatives and faux conservatives will battle this fall

[YoursTruly]

Besides Obama, Biden and Pelosi, who do you consider a "real Conservative"?

Asking for a friend Oddball

Actual fiscal conservatives are so rare, I can only think of a few that still remain in DC.
Thomas Massie, Mike Lee and Rand Paul. They're the ones labeled "libertarian." But they were labeled that because a decade ago, the LP was the only viable party with truly fiscal conservative background.

Since then, they've been hijacked by pink and purple haired Bernie supporters who care more about tranny rights, than the livelihood of the American working class. But I think that's about to change. The LP was just taken over by the Mises Caucus, and they're kicking the tranny freaks to the curb. But I'm not jumping on the LP's bandwagon just yet.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Cheney: Trump's Jan. 6 actions 'more threatening than we could have imagined'

Rep. Liz Cheney the Jan. 6 Committee’s work has shown that former President Donald Trump’s involvement in a plot to overturn the 2020 election was “even more chilling and more threatening than we could have imagined.”

www.yahoo.com

Real Conservatives are aghast of faux conservatives who continue to support trump. Faux conservatives are void of solutions to mitigate on going issues as they orate "ain't it/they awful", using the RED SCARE and nary a single statement on how to put food on the table, and energy that too many families can't afford.

Donald trump is a traitor. He is self serving, corrupt and is attempting to end our nations decades of peaceful transition of power. Those who continue the BIG LIE that the election was stolen are not mistaken, they are traitors to COTUS and they know it.

More examples of faux conservatives writing on social media to call others liars and using misinformation without even a scintilla of truth.

[The campaign to discredit Cassidy Hutchinson has begun.]​

The campaign to discredit Cassidy Hutchinson has begun

The former Trump White House aide who spoke to the Jan. 6 committee Tuesday is under fire. Defenders say her critics should testify under oath.

www.yahoo.com

From the link directly above:

In the hours after Cassidy Hutchinson delivered bombshell testimony to the Jan. 6 committee Tuesday, former President Trump and his allies rushed to attack the former White House staffer.

Whatever helps you sleep at night, but Trump ain't on the ballot with which you're about to get beat over the head.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

Dems suddenly love the war mongering RINO's and Neocons, it's a crazy world!

They have to defend the uniparty fake opposition.....they've been told to

 

[bripat9643]

That means liberal to those who don't know what fiscal conservatism is.

I know perfectly well what it is. It's a lib who wants to raise taxes and likes to call that "fiscally conservative." There is no liberal on the face of this earth who doesn't want to raise taxes.

We believe in smaller, less intrusive government.

No you don't. I've certainly never seen any evidence of that.

We believe taxes should be raised only to pay for what a small, limited government needs. Not this monstrosity of a government.

Sure you do, and when does that ever happen?

We believe the government should spend only what it takes in. And that money should go back to the people.

Yet, your first instinct is to raise taxes rather than cut spending

We believe the government should adhere to the US Constitution. If changes need to be made, to keep up with the times, they have the constitutional authority, through a specific process to chance or alter the COTUS.

So where did you ever demonstrate this attitude?

We believe in free market capitalism.
We believe in allowing businesses to fail or flourish from their own decisions.
We believe the Federal Reserve should be the last resort for a government in debt. Because it's the borrowing that put them in debt to start with.

If you are against borrowing then you should oppose all attempts to increase spending, and you never do.

This is the short version of fiscal conservatism.

Trump not only increased spending 33% above Obama's rate. But he also eliminated the debt ceiling for 2 years so most of us couldn't calculate how much money he and Pelosi was spending, without going through ever appropriations bill.
The debt ceiling was our guide on how much the government was borrowing from the Fed. A sneaky trick.

So when you saying "fiscal conservatism" is slang for liberal, I don't know what TF you're talking about. The two are polar opposites of each other.

Blaming that all on Trump only shows how dishonest you are. The Dims demanded the spending and they all voted for it.

Why don't you so-called "fiscal conservatives" ever attack Democrats? That's the key evidence that you aren't conservative. Democrats are responsible for 95% of all the spending our government engages in.

 

[YoursTruly]

I know perfectly well what it is. It's a lib who wants to raise taxes and likes to call that "fiscally conservative." There is no liberal on the face of this earth who doesn't want to raise taxes.

Apparently you don't know what fiscal conservatism is. Because your description is a polar opposite.

Fiscal conservatism is a political and economic philosophy regarding fiscal policy and fiscal responsibility with an ideological basis in capitalism, individualism, limited government, and laissez-faire economics. Fiscal conservatives advocate tax cuts, reduced government spending, free markets, deregulation, privatization, free trade, and minimal government debt. Fiscal conservatism follows the same philosophical outlook of classical liberalism. This concept is derived from economic liberalism and can also be referred to as fiscal liberalism outside the United States.

The term has its origins in the era of the American New Deal during the 1930s as a result of the policies initiated by modern liberals, when many classical liberals started calling themselves conservatives as they did not wish to be identified with what was passing for liberalism in the United States. In the United States, the term liberalism has become associated with the welfare state and expanded regulatory policies created as a result of the New Deal and its offshoots from the 1930s onwards.

Fiscal conservatives form one of the three legs of the traditional American conservative movement that emerged during the 1950s together with social conservatism and national defense conservatism. Many Americans who are classical liberals also tend to identify as libertarian, holding more cultural liberal views and advocating a non-interventionist foreign policy while supporting lower taxes and less government spending. As of 2020, 39% of Americans polled considered themselves "economically conservative".

Because of its close proximity to the United States, the term has entered the lexicon in Canada.[10] In many other countries, economic liberalism or simply liberalism is used to describe what Americans call fiscal conservatism.

No you don't. I've certainly never seen any evidence of that.

The evidence you've seen from me and what I support is not even close to what liberals and progressives support. You just want to call it a lie. Why? I don't have a clue. Because if I supported anything the liberals and progressives supported, I wouldn't constantly oppose their ways.
You're looking for any out, but can't find one. So you claim my support is a lie. Pretty pathetic, bro.

Sure you do, and when does that ever happen?

It doesn't happen because we have only a hand full of fiscal conservative in DC. The rest are just CINO's. (Conservative in name only).

Yet, your first instinct is to raise taxes rather than cut spending

Wrong again. Tax cuts without spending cuts is retarded.

So where did you ever demonstrate this attitude?

I don't understand your question. I'm demonstrating it now. With you. In this and many other posts in this forum. And during the 2008 and 2012 GOP primaries, when moronic republicans were trying to get people like Romney elected as POTUS.
Yall were stupid then. And you're still stupid for supporting Trump. Who's also a CINO. (Per his record)

If you are against borrowing then you should oppose all attempts to increase spending, and you never do.

That's all I ever do.
You see, now you're just making up stuff about me.
If you have to lie to make a point, then you really don't have one. Do you?

Blaming that all on Trump only shows how dishonest you are. The Dims demanded the spending and they all voted for it.

Did they "demand" Trump to sign appropriations bills? Did they hold a gun to his head and force him to fund gender studies, Planned Parenthood and all the other unconstitutional crap the passed in the House and Senate.
Did Pelosi have Trumps balls in a mason jar?

Why don't you so-called "fiscal conservatives" ever attack Democrats? That's the key evidence that you aren't conservative. Democrats are responsible for 95% of all the spending our government engages in.

We do. You Trump supporters just don't pay attention to it. But you sure get triggered and over dramatic when we call out Trump's flaws.

 

[bripat9643]

Apparently you don't know what fiscal conservatism is. Because your description is a polar opposite.

Fiscal conservatism is a political and economic philosophy regarding fiscal policy and fiscal responsibility with an ideological basis in capitalism, individualism, limited government, and laissez-faire economics. Fiscal conservatives advocate tax cuts, reduced government spending, free markets, deregulation, privatization, free trade, and minimal government debt. Fiscal conservatism follows the same philosophical outlook of classical liberalism. This concept is derived from economic liberalism and can also be referred to as fiscal liberalism outside the United States.

The term has its origins in the era of the American New Deal during the 1930s as a result of the policies initiated by modern liberals, when many classical liberals started calling themselves conservatives as they did not wish to be identified with what was passing for liberalism in the United States. In the United States, the term liberalism has become associated with the welfare state and expanded regulatory policies created as a result of the New Deal and its offshoots from the 1930s onwards.

Fiscal conservatives form one of the three legs of the traditional American conservative movement that emerged during the 1950s together with social conservatism and national defense conservatism. Many Americans who are classical liberals also tend to identify as libertarian, holding more cultural liberal views and advocating a non-interventionist foreign policy while supporting lower taxes and less government spending. As of 2020, 39% of Americans polled considered themselves "economically conservative".

Because of its close proximity to the United States, the term has entered the lexicon in Canada.[10] In many other countries, economic liberalism or simply liberalism is used to describe what Americans call fiscal conservatism.

Leftwing propaganda. You've never posted any evidence that you support any of that. All you ever do in here is blame deficits entirely on Republicans and never mention Democrats. You're simply a lying douchebag. Dozens of lying turds like you have waltzed into this forum making the same claims, and then they slunk away when I proved they were actually left-wingers.

You even admitted that so-called "fiscal conservatives" are actually liberals.

 

[bripat9643]

The evidence you've seen from me and what I support is not even close to what liberals and progressives support. You just want to call it a lie. Why? I don't have a clue. Because if I supported anything the liberals and progressives supported, I wouldn't constantly oppose their ways.
You're looking for any out, but can't find one. So you claim my support is a lie. Pretty pathetic, bro.

You have never attacked Democrats for deficit spending. You only attack Republicans. That's pretty much irrefutable proof that you're not a conservative.

Wrong again. Tax cuts without spending cuts is retarded.

Then why have you never attacked Dims for the constant deficit spending?

I don't understand your question. I'm demonstrating it now. With you. In this and many other posts in this forum. And during the 2008 and 2012 GOP primaries, when moronic republicans were trying to get people like Romney elected as POTUS.
Yall were stupid then. And you're still stupid for supporting Trump. Who's also a CINO. (Per his record)

You aren't dem,ponstrating jack shit. You're just lying.

That's all I ever do.
You see, now you're just making up stuff about me.
If you have to lie to make a point, then you really don't have one. Do you?

If I'm making up stuff, then it should be easy for you to post an example where you have attacked Dims for their spending.

Did they "demand" Trump to sign appropriations bills? Did they hold a gun to his head and force him to fund gender studies, Planned Parenthood and all the other unconstitutional crap the passed in the House and Senate.
Did Pelosi have Trumps balls in a mason jar?

Numerous times Dims have issued ultimatums to Trump that they would vote against his defense bill if he didn' greenlight the vastly larger social spending they demanded.

Trump doesn't have a line item veto. He can't veto just the stuff he doesn't like. Of course you know this. That's why you use this sleazy Dim tactic of blaming Trump for all the spending in the bill even though there is little he can do about it.

We do. You Trump supporters just don't pay attention to it. But you sure get triggered and over dramatic when we call out Trump's flaws.

Please quote one of your posts where you blamed Dims for increased spending.

 

[Failzero]

Faux Conservatives ( Socially Liberal / Closet Progressive Never Trumper / Never GOPer Turd Party types

 

[YoursTruly]

Faux Conservatives ( Socially Liberal / Closet Progressive Never Trumper / Never GOPer Turd Party types

There's a ton of Trump supporters who fit "faux conservative" description as well.
Those that claim to support the COTUS. But only point out the times when Trumps opponents abuse the COTUS.
Before Trump, republicans railed against Obama's spending an his increases in the national debt and deficit.
But never a word about Trump's 33% increase.

Trump supporters remind me of a single mom with a 35yr old spoiled crackhead mooch for a son. She know her son is a worthless POS. She don't have anything to really be proud of about her son, so she either make up stuff or praises the little things he does like it was awesome.

 

[Rye Catcher]

Whatever helps you sleep at night, but Trump ain't on the ballot with which you're about to get beat over the head.

It's assholes like you who continue to beat the drums with BIG LIES and Conspiracy Theories, both being fictitious. Trump may or may not be on the ballot in 2024 but his impact on biddable fools and single issue voters may very well put the United States into the 19th Century:

• Mass Murders
• R v. W
• The impact of Climate Change
• Green Energy
• The Pandemic is a hoax
• Health Care is Socialism
• Gun Control
• Civil Rights
• Voting Rights

These are only a few of those that are the are the result of greed, single interests, ignorance, racists, misogynists, xenophobics and the lust for power. This is the 21st Century of the Republican Party and gotten worse under trump.

Income inequality are the result of trickle down and supported by the above by faux conservatives; the reasons are both the fools and people like you who continue to post bullshit on social media.

 

[Failzero]

There's a ton of Trump supporters who fit "faux conservative" description as well.
Those that claim to support the COTUS. But only point out the times when Trumps opponents abuse the COTUS.
Before Trump, republicans railed against Obama's spending an his increases in the national debt and deficit.
But never a word about Trump's 33% increase.

Trump supporters remind me of a single mom with a 35yr old spoiled crackhead mooch for a son. She know her son is a worthless POS. She don't have anything to really be proud of about her son, so she either make up stuff or praises the little things he does like it was awesome.

Faux Conservatives who use the COTUS & States Rights as cover to get things like ( Legalized Drugs ) ( Sensible Firearm Restrictions ) ( Gay Marriage/ Turbocharged LGTBTQPN Rights ) ( Pathway/Amnesty ) ( Veiled Socialism ) ...

 

[kaz]

Cheney: Trump's Jan. 6 actions 'more threatening than we could have imagined'

Rep. Liz Cheney the Jan. 6 Committee’s work has shown that former President Donald Trump’s involvement in a plot to overturn the 2020 election was “even more chilling and more threatening than we could have imagined.”

www.yahoo.com

Real Conservatives are aghast of faux conservatives who continue to support trump. Faux conservatives are void of solutions to mitigate on going issues as they orate "ain't it/they awful", using the RED SCARE and nary a single statement on how to put food on the table, and energy that too many families can't afford.

Donald trump is a traitor. He is self serving, corrupt and is attempting to end our nations decades of peaceful transition of power. Those who continue the BIG LIE that the election was stolen are not mistaken, they are traitors to COTUS and they know it.

More examples of faux conservatives writing on social media to call others liars and using misinformation without even a scintilla of truth.

[The campaign to discredit Cassidy Hutchinson has begun.]​

The campaign to discredit Cassidy Hutchinson has begun

The former Trump White House aide who spoke to the Jan. 6 committee Tuesday is under fire. Defenders say her critics should testify under oath.

www.yahoo.com

From the link directly above:

In the hours after Cassidy Hutchinson delivered bombshell testimony to the Jan. 6 committee Tuesday, former President Trump and his allies rushed to attack the former White House staffer.

If you want to be judged, run to your nearest Democrat. You're a racist and an ass. This is just Democrat masturbation material

 

[BlackSand]

Cheney: Trump's Jan. 6 actions 'more threatening than we could have imagined'

Rep. Liz Cheney the Jan. 6 Committee’s work has shown that former President Donald Trump’s involvement in a plot to overturn the 2020 election was “even more chilling and more threatening than we could have imagined.”

www.yahoo.com

Real Conservatives are aghast of faux conservatives who continue to support trump. Faux conservatives are void of solutions to mitigate on going issues as they orate "ain't it/they awful", using the RED SCARE and nary a single statement on how to put food on the table, and energy that too many families can't afford.

Donald trump is a traitor. He is self serving, corrupt and is attempting to end our nations decades of peaceful transition of power. Those who continue the BIG LIE that the election was stolen are not mistaken, they are traitors to COTUS and they know it.

More examples of faux conservatives writing on social media to call others liars and using misinformation without even a scintilla of truth.

[The campaign to discredit Cassidy Hutchinson has begun.]​

The campaign to discredit Cassidy Hutchinson has begun

The former Trump White House aide who spoke to the Jan. 6 committee Tuesday is under fire. Defenders say her critics should testify under oath.

www.yahoo.com

From the link directly above:

In the hours after Cassidy Hutchinson delivered bombshell testimony to the Jan. 6 committee Tuesday, former President Trump and his allies rushed to attack the former White House staffer.

.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Establishment on both sides of the aisle gets a wake-up call come November.
Rhino's can piss and whine about President Trump all they want ... I know one that won't be headed back to Beltway after his next run for office.

The only Conservative thing he has done while in office is vote against the $1.5 trillion Omnibus Bill ...
And that didn't matter because it was going to pass anyway with or without him.

He is practically throwing himself out of office trying to play Beltway Politics ...

.​

 

[YoursTruly]

Leftwing propaganda. You've never posted any evidence that you support any of that. All you ever do in here is blame deficits entirely on Republicans and never mention Democrats. You're simply a lying douchebag. Dozens of lying turds like you have waltzed into this forum making the same claims, and then they slunk away when I proved they were actually left-wingers.

You even admitted that so-called "fiscal conservatives" are actually liberals.

I blame the deficits on who ever is responsible. That includes Biden, Obama and Trump. Plus Pelosi, Ryan, Schumer, McConnell etc etc

You only pay attention to when someone points out Trumps flaws, because Trump owns you.

I'm completely independent of support for any politician. And I'm darn sure not going to praise them for doing things they're supposed to do to start with.

 

[Missourian]

Cheney: Trump's Jan. 6 actions 'more threatening than we could have imagined'

Rep. Liz Cheney the Jan. 6 Committee’s work has shown that former President Donald Trump’s involvement in a plot to overturn the 2020 election was “even more chilling and more threatening than we could have imagined.”

www.yahoo.com

Real Conservatives are aghast of faux conservatives who continue to support trump. Faux conservatives are void of solutions to mitigate on going issues as they orate "ain't it/they awful", using the RED SCARE and nary a single statement on how to put food on the table, and energy that too many families can't afford.

Donald trump is a traitor. He is self serving, corrupt and is attempting to end our nations decades of peaceful transition of power. Those who continue the BIG LIE that the election was stolen are not mistaken, they are traitors to COTUS and they know it.

More examples of faux conservatives writing on social media to call others liars and using misinformation without even a scintilla of truth.

[The campaign to discredit Cassidy Hutchinson has begun.]​

The campaign to discredit Cassidy Hutchinson has begun

The former Trump White House aide who spoke to the Jan. 6 committee Tuesday is under fire. Defenders say her critics should testify under oath.

www.yahoo.com

From the link directly above:

In the hours after Cassidy Hutchinson delivered bombshell testimony to the Jan. 6 committee Tuesday, former President Trump and his allies rushed to attack the former White House staffer.

Thank you for Lib-splaining this topic.

I'll give your opinion on Conservatism every ounce of consideration it so richly deserves...

 

[bripat9643]

I blame the deficits on who ever is responsible. That includes Biden, Obama and Trump. Plus Pelosi, Ryan, Schumer, McConnell etc etc

You only pay attention to when someone points out Trumps flaws, because Trump owns you.

I'm completely independent of support for any politician. And I'm darn sure not going to praise them for doing things they're supposed to do to start with.

I've never seen a post where you blamed Biden, Obama, Pelosi or Schumer. Feel free to post a link to one.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Real Conservatives are aghast of faux conservatives

There are basically no real conservatives in this country.

It is not just random chance that we have not had a Conservative president since 1929

 

[Failzero]

There are basically no real conservatives in this country.

It is not just random chance that we have not had a Conservative president since 1929

Real Conservatives are not for Legalized Drugs ( even if it would pass CONUS muster )

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Real Conservatives are not for Legalized Drugs ( even if it would pass CONUS muster )

Real Conservatives do not care about drugs at all. That is an individual decision.

Real Conservatives care about fiscal matters first and foremost and social ones last.

But this is why our country is 31 trillion dollars in debt, the only "conservatism" that matters is social. A person could be the most fiscally Conservative person in the country and be pro-choice and they would never win the Repub vote.

 

[bripat9643]

Real Conservatives are not for Legalized Drugs ( even if it would pass CONUS muster )

I'm for legalized drugs, but I'm a libertarian. I actually believe in freedom.