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I do not think that the mixed capitalism we have is going to fail, just be retarded for 4 years, and not so much capitalism retarded as the headlong rush directly to fascism of direct unelected rule, contrary to the essence of representative republic theory, under our present constitution. I do not think the country will or should tolerate ripping up the constitution and free elections to accept a president chosen by a radical minority.You're hitting on the key to all the problems White. Trump was the answer to the breakdown of capitalism and Biden was going to be the answer by taking the country back to the failure for the ordinary working class people that it had become over the years.
Americans want something different, and that's where you are getting it right.
The obvious problem with Chicy's ideas is that she's trying to promote the old status quo and that's basically what Biden is doing too, except from the opposite political perspective. She's not able to acknowledge that even Trump understood that the people want something different.
And ow only the lamest and the most politically indoctrinated could imagine that Trump will deliver something for the working class. A corporate psychopath do that??
Somewhere back in the thread, dogmaphobe hinted at the problem by saying that political dogma has people choosing either the left or the right, without examining the policy. That was intuitive even though he doesn't quite understand why he feels that way.
Of course neither Trump's change or Biden's sticking to the usual failure of capitalism, just isn't going to work.
I wonder if America really can put up with 4 wasted years under Biden, as you're suggesting. When capitalism fails, the most likely cure will be a turn to fascism.
The biggest value in this topic is in separating 'conservatism' from 'Republican'.
But can that ever happen when the only representation of conservatism in America is coming from the Republican party.
Can that be the kind of conservatism that the people need and want so badly?
You do understand that the Democratic party aren't going to put forward an alternative to the establishment status quo. Even though you express other reasons for not doing that. (Eliz, Bernie)I do not think that the mixed capitalism we have is going to fail, just be retarded for 4 years, and not so much capitalism retarded as the headlong rush directly to fascism of direct unelected rule, contrary to the essence of representative republic theory, under our present constitution. I do not think the country will or should tolerate ripping up the constitution and free elections to accept a president chosen by a radical minority.
That said, they may not support Joe if the republicans can give up on trump and select an actual conservative of even decent character and qualifications, that would indeed assure that the basic principles of the constitution would remain valid, but the will of the people. Trump has proven he will not support that. Likewise, a challenger to Joe on the Democratic side, will not be accepted or voted into office with a pure socialist agenda, otherwise Bernie or Elizabeth would be in office. The loudest voices are on the extremes, but I still think the voting majority is to be found closer to center and will remain so.
Well, what are your values and what are you actually for?99 times out of 100, my vote goes to the Republicans because their positions are far closer to American values and heritage than the Wehrmacht....er, Democrats.
"Nothing Liberals relish more than searching for reasons for being morally indignant! This is because they can’t take the moral high ground on abortion, adultery, illegitimacy, the divorce rate, drugs, crime, a president molesting an intern and then lying to federal investigators. They stake out a clear moral position only on the issue of slavery…of course, when it mattered, they were on the wrong side of that, too.'
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2. Here's a prime example of the sort of social land mine the Left pushes on the American public:
“Biden admin to fund crack pipe distribution for ‘racial equality’
The $30 million grant program, which closed applications Monday and will begin in May, will provide funds to nonprofits and local governments to help make drug use safer for addicts. Included in the grant, which is overseen by the Department of Health and Human Services, are funds for "smoking kits/supplies." A spokesman for the agency told the Washington Free Beacon that these kits will provide pipes for users to smoke crack cocaine, crystal methamphetamine, and "any illicit substance." SERIOUSLY: Biden admin to fund crack pipe distribution for ‘racial equality’
3. But here's one example where the Right simply doesn't get it: one more social land mine: gambling.
"Gambling is for most people a harmless form of entertainment. But not for all people. For millions of pathological or problem gamblers, betting can end in debt, bankruptcy, family breakdown, criminality, and substance abuse. These tragic outcomes carry costs that, while hard to see, tear at our threadbare social fabric. The speed with which sports gambling has become a ubiquitous, stigma-free, multibillion-dollar industry tells us something about both the state of the country and the condition of the American Right. Something we may not want to hear.
Nevada legalized gambling in 1931. New Jersey authorized casino gambling in 1976. Gambling was illegal elsewhere.
Today 45 states and Washington, D.C., sell lotto tickets. Their primary customers are low-income taxpayers. Practically every state has a casino. Thirty-one states have legal sports betting.
4. Back in 1973, Irving Kristol was struck by Americans' eagerness to turn their country into a giant Sin City. Kristol wrote in the Wall Street Journal that gambling "undermines the classical virtues (moderation, self-reliance, self-discipline, thrift, diligence, etc.) while nourishing the classical vices (extravagance, avarice, the lack of social responsibility, etc.)." While professing his fondness for Las Vegas, Kristol also noted the ethical dilemmas involved in state lotteries and the problems that arise when people fail to distinguish between entertainment and vice.
5. ... the spread of gambling in the United States coincided with other forms of self-seeking, present-minded, and irresponsible behavior: the overconsumption of food and drink, the legalization of drugs, the pornification of society, and the rapid accumulation of private and public debt. As Americans loosened the bonds of self-restraint, as they came to think of thrift and moderation as "hypocritical or puritanical," their society became unbundled and unrestrained. Their culture coarsened. Their politics turned vicious."
America Gambles with Its Future
My family and I and about 100 million other people look forward to watching Super Bowl 56 this Sunday. I am less excited about the commercials. The NFL audience, you see, has been deluded this season with ads for mobile sports betting. Two online platforms, Caesars Sportsbook and DraftKings...freebeacon.com
OK....I'll cop to either 'conservative' or 'Jeremiah.'
Fwiw, Putin just signed into law, the recognition of the Donbass being separate from the Ukraine.
‘Hon’?I have to commend you for posting that hon! It's a dangerous way for government to increase revenue, and it's happening in Canada too now, even though to a lesser extent.
You're taking an unmistakably 'socially responsible' position here and I'm a bit surprised!
That's worth repeating! Perhaps we can talk more on our common agreement on much of that?
Show me the blocked bridges over the Mississippi river for a few weeks. I do not for a second think it would be tolerated. Their best bet for a trucker protest is to pull them out of the way and refuse to drive, as a general strike. You can move somebody's truck out of the way, but you cannot make them drive it. If you people on the right want to drive a trucker protest here, shutting down transportation to protest Covid restrictions, yes, it would affect people being able to actually eat with reliability. Is that your plan? You sure better find a way to make it look like the Democrats cut off their food or no Republican politician would feel safe on the streets again. Even trump would not try that tactic, unless positive he could make it look like all truckers were Democrats.You do understand that the Democratic party aren't going to put forward an alternative to the establishment status quo. Even though you express other reasons for not doing that. (Eliz, Bernie)
And you understand that Trump isn't suitable, again for the wrong reasons.
The R party without Trump will have to turn back to the establishment's capitalism and the D party won't depart from the status quo of establishment capitalism.
About all you fail to understand is that the American people are not going to accept the same old establishment rip off of the working class. Why isn't that plain to see by now?
How about if America has a trucker protest that involved 10 times the number of trucks that were in Ottawa, or even more? Would that convince you that a fascist takeover of your democracy is quite possible? Would millions of Americans support that? Maybe Trump would claim to lead it, and push his same agenda of taking down government?
Are Americans so pissed off by the establishment that they would back up Trump again.
Well, what are your values and what are you actually for?
Fwiw, Putin just signed into law, the recognition of the Donbass being separate from the Ukraine.
FYI just in case you are politically astute enough to understand what is happening today, as you doddle along with your fascination of posting pictures that seem to suggest that Trudeau is on the phone with ........................, all your bad guys.
grow up hon, you're missing the chance to see history being made in Europe.
‘Hon’?
Aren’t you just a big chauvinist, patronizing, misogynistic, leftist prick?
This is what I believe:
From a historical view, in the sense that history is that which is experienced by ordinary folks, “Victorian values” are actually what we call middle-class values, and include thrift, cleanliness, responsibility, self-discipline, perseverance, honesty and self-reliance…but also those values that are crucial to the “work ethic,” promptness, regularity, conformity and rationality. Note, this constellation is of value to capitalism, and changes agricultural workers into an industrial proletariat.
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If you choose to gamble, don't turn to society to pay off your debts.
The same applies to drug use, alcoholism, criminality and all sorts of things now called 'diseases.'
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I believe there is some dust accumulating on the epaulets on your Brown Shirt.
