Zone1 Conservative American Evangelicals are taking this country to task

[surada]

Exactly: as I demonstrated..........your opinion is nothing but AD HOMINEM Bull Shit, it has nothing to do with history actual or facts in evidence. Ain't it a grand thing to live in such a nation where you can demonstrate both your hatred and ignorance Legally, without some Brown Shirt liberal NAZI attempting to silence your freedom of religion and speech?

The point is no one is going to silence your religious beliefs and you can't silence any one who's religious beliefs or their lack of religious beliefs are different than yours.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

your opinion is nothing but AD HOMINEM Bull Shit,

its not an opinion that Blackstone read the Holy Bible and opposed the American revolt fir independence. He is your hero not mine

So...........by your own logic.......or the lack thereof, the only Religion that is fobidden by Constitutional decree is Christiantiy,

NFBW: No religion is forbidden by Constitutional decree and specifically Christianity was never forbidden. The first five presidents were founding fathers who didn’t express the belief in the divinity of Jesus Christ. END2208251246

 

[whutTHEYsay]

The point is no one is going to silence your religious beliefs

I think ole Clyde 154 there is lost on the notion that separation of church and state means men and women who serve the public are forbidden to hold a religious belief of any kind. That is absurd of course and perhaps I’m missing something but if true that explains why Clyde 154 is a true believer in the Trump-Jesus-upside down bible-Religion. END2208251256

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Referenceing the God of Creation is not a violation of church and state.......unless you are referencing the God of Christianity? LMAO

NFBW: Referencing any God that one believes in is not a violation of church and state. Never was - never will be. END2208251310

 

[whutTHEYsay]

The very idea of mandating 3 distinct branches of Government comes from the Holy Scriptures.....

NFBW: why did it take 1300 years of Bible reading and then enlightened men who did not believe in the hocus pocus of the Bible to figure it out? END2208251340

 

[whutTHEYsay]

The founding documents of this nation began with the "1620" landing of 102 people who where called Pilgrams looking for the promise land, under inspiration of the Holy Bible.

No! The founding documents are the constitution and the Bill of Rights abd amendments had absolutely nothing to do with the Holy Bible and the resurrection of Jesus Christ one thousand seven hundred eighty years before they were put on parchment. END2208251416

 

[Clyde 154]

No! The founding documents are the constitution and the Bill of Rights abd amendments had absolutely nothing to do with the Holy Bible and the resurrection of Jesus Christ one thousand seven hundred eighty years before they were put on parchment. END2208251416

Yeah........more "logic". You have documented that the creating of an independent nation of the people, for the people and by the people............requires nothing.......not even PEOPLE to create the founding principles.

Just to demonstrate a point........concerning Jesus Christ the LORD, as referenced by the modern calender now in use. "You make a statement like its based upon truth, such as "..........the founding document.....ABSOLUTELY:without question....had nothing to do with the resurrection of Jesus Christ." beautiful music to any ignornat left winger social justice warrior...no? The point? Its just as President Reagan once stated, "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant; its just that theyKNOW so much that isn't so." -- R. Reagan

Example: What and Who does the term Lord refer when used as an official date? "In the Year of our Lord.........One Thousand Seven Hundred and Eighty Seven........" As found directly written, unamgiously in the Untied States Constitution, found In Article VII?

Suddenly..........Absolutely, we find is not ABSOLUTE. As will follow, based upon liberal logic after having their own words demonstrated to be based upon total ignorance, "Yeah.....well, that means NOTHING..........everyone talked like that back then...." Which proves? Everyone talked like that back then and our nation was founded upon the principles that were commonly accepted ........BACK THEN.

An overwhelming acceptance in the Word of God as....1. A guide to morality 2. Education (churches and the Holy Bible were the first educational institutions founded in this republic) 3. Seek Peace before War. 4. Foregiveness (where would this naiton be without the help, aid and comfort provided by some of our past enemies....examples: England, Japan, France (native American Wars, an enemy to the people of Colonies....then an ally during the revolution....etc. 5. Racial Harmony (example: Bible.....God, created men of all nations from one blood......carried over in the declaration, ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL.....you can't deny that phrase is connected to both biblical principles and our founding documents. Simply because Salvery existed by the free will choices of the majority in this republic does not make either truth......into a lie, people evolve.........truth does not..."


and many more principles from the bible were incorportated into our founding documents and legal system. Such as...RESPECT FOR THE EARTH (Rev. 11:18, Genesis 2:15) (today a liberals favorite in vogue cause).......HONESTY, HARD WORK, CHARITY, HELPING THOSE IN NEED (another liberal favorite........welfare state), all these biblical princples and many more are found incorporated into our founding documents because.........."THAT'S JUST THE WAY PEOPLE TALKED AND BELIEVED BACK THEN............."

What type of person..........Hides, Lies, and Runs away from their actual heritage and history? Someone who is Ashamed and not proud of such a history, in other words......no not other words, the EXACT WORDS,,,,,,someone who hates this nation.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

You have documented that the creating of an independent nation of the people, for the people and by the people............requires nothing.......not even PEOPLE to create the founding principles.

NFBW: you are a liar. The first five presidents were founders and people. They were great enlightened people who did not believe in the divinity of Jesus Christ. They were required to found this great not Christian nation of ours. END2208251744

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Example: What and Who does the term Lord refer when used as an official date? "In the Year of our Lord.........One Thousand Seven Hundred and Eighty Seven........" As found directly written, unamgiously in the Untied States Constitution, found In Article VII?

The date the Constitution was ratified on a specific date of the Gregorian Calendar adds nothing to the content of a Catholic nature. Gregory was a Pope.

All Christian’s involved in the writing of the Constitution were Protestants and they considered Catholics to be subhuman scum at the time. So by your logic the reference to the Catholic Calendar means the Constitution is a Catholic document. How absurd are you gonna get?

 

[GMCGeneral]

Anything by Kenneth Copeland is suspect. He is one of the foremost purveyors of thw so called "Word of Faith" movement which is an affront to the Gospel.

 

[Clyde 154]

The date the Constitution was ratified on a specific date of the Gregorian Calendar adds nothing to the content of a Catholic nature. Gregory was a Pope.

All Christian’s involved in the writing of the Constitution were Protestants and they considered Catholics to be subhuman scum at the time. So by your logic the reference to the Catholic Calendar means the Constitution is a Catholic document. How absurd are you gonna get?

Adds nothing? And it takes nothing away...........it documented the fact that your were ignorant of the fact that Jesus Christ was indeed addressed in the US Constitution when you stated "ABSOLUTELY not".

You are typical of a leftist.....always attempting to deflect away from the fact that your own words often contradict any cognition to logic or reason and TRUTH.

As I have stated many times, "There is no nourishment provided chewing on a dry bone.......". You have been dismissed through the ignorance and blatant lack of knowledge concerning the actual circumstances of the founding of this nation in exposing a great hatred for this republic known as the Untied States of America. You simply want to banter words that are easily demonstrated to be nothing but parroted disinformation from those who would enjoy seeing this republic become another left wing socialist failure as is the case with all those who practice socialism to its conclusion......a total collapse of society because of the very nature of all supposed historical democracies. As explained in detail in the Federalist papers.........this nation was never a socialist democracy, it was founded with a guarantee of "republican representation at all levels of government. Article 4, Section 4, Clause 1 is explained in the federalist papers......point No,. 10 This nation was founded upon Republican Principles....this is a Represetative Republic.......not a social democracy. I laugh every time I hear an ignorant left winger claim "we live in a democracy.......you are attempting to destroy OUR democracy...yada, yada, yada.........the U.S. was never founded as a democracy.

"The United States (infered the Central Government of the U.S.) Shall guarantee to every state in the Union a REPUBLICAN FORM OF GOVERNMENT." -- Article 4, Section 4, Clause 1.

As explained in Federalist No. 10., written by James Madison, as to why the U.S. is a republic instead of socail democracy:

"Hence it is that such democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention (how true are those words reflected today in our left wing polictical parties.....rioting, looting, burning, destroying public and private property all in the supposed name of demcracy and (wink, wink) SOCIAL JUSTICE)...........have never been compatible with personal security or the rights of property, and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths." -- James Madison

The left spent 4 years attempting to burn this Republic to the ground......all in the name of seeking SOCIAL JUSTICE.....when in reality it was over the hatred of one man (Donald J. Trump) who was attempting to bring this nation back to its founding roots of REPUBLICANISM. The grinding and gnashing of teeth is still echoing throughtout D.C. as they are continually attempting to fasely imprison those who oppose their social democracy platform.

There is even video evidence of how the left is attempting to "Fundamentally Change the United States of America".....and make it a socialist haven for listless, apathatic members of our society who enjoy living off OP funding. Other peoples money and hard work.........the intent is obvious...........income redistribution just as described by their brethren in the former USSR.



Question? If the United States of America is not a Republic grounded in the Judeo/Christian philosophy...........why does it require left wing FUNDAMENTAL CHANGE. Truth Bomb

Fundamenal: basic facts or principles.

 

[Zincwarrior]

You spelled "fundamental" incorrectly.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

it documented the fact that your were ignorant of the fact that Jesus Christ was indeed addressed in the US Constitution when you stated "ABSOLUTELY not".

NFBW: where is the religion of Jesus Christ addressed in the US Constitution. It is a reference to Pope Gregory’s method of keeping track of history from the years of Jesus. The theology of being a Christian with some type of spiritual relationship with the Son of God to be saved from original sin or some such voodoo is not addressed in the Constitution except I am free from believing in such myths. THANK YOU JESUS! END2208251914

 

[Clyde 154]

You spelled "fundamental" incorrectly.

Another common practice of a leftist.......attack the messenger as to not address the truth delivered in the message.
Ok..........let us "explaine the word, since you did "nto" comprehend the word due to a typo.

Aoccrding to a rscheearch at Cmabirgde Uinvervtisy it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr teh ltteers are, olny iprmoetnt thing is taht the 1st ltter be at righit palce.

Lets pretend........the entire text is not comprehensible.....

I am here for one reason........the "good belly laugh". Its good for the soul. I enjoy any leftist painting him/her self into the proverbial corner through the use of their own words, and watch the entertainment as they come spinning out like TAZ.

 

[Clyde 154]

NFBW: where is the religion of Jesus Christ addressed in the US Constitution. It is a reference to Pope Gregory’s method of keeping track of history from the years of Jesus. The theology of being a Christian with some type of spiritual relationship with the Son of God to be saved from original sin or some such voodoo is not addressed in the Constitution except I am free from believing in such myths. THANK YOU JESUS! END2208251914

More deflection by parroting more misinformation from those who hate the U.S?


Marked Date of Birth, of one Jesus Christ.........in the year 1 of the Calender now in use around the world....aka, introduced by the RCC. What? This date is not used in Section VII of the U.S Constitution? And it does not reference the birth of Jesus Christ? It was demonstrated that James Madison........supported the principles of the 10 commandments in our political and jusdicial system.

What's next........ up is down, north is south, such is the reasoning that it was the DEMOCRAT PARTY that endorsed salvery.......or opposed the rights of women to vote and own property..........and voted against the civil rights acts of 60s? It was the evil Republicans that did it................. The actual record proves that democrats voted 78% against the civil rights act of 64, and actually held a 74 day "filibuster" attempting to stop all voting.
There has not been a true Democrat in office since.........your party(communist) had JFK placed to death because of the his political ideologies of strength in support of the military..........whose first actions in office was to lower taxes and strengthen the military readiness of the U.S.

Democrat/GOP Vote Tally on 1964 Civil Rights Act - WSJ

www.wsj.com

 

[whutTHEYsay]

And it does not reference the birth of Jesus Christ?

Of course it references the birth of Jesus Christ. It references nothing as to the divinity of Jesus and the religion of Christianity that is based on his teaching. How does a reference to the Gregorian calendar justify you in telling me that the constitution does not provide me with freedom “from” you Christian religion? END2208252938

 

[whutTHEYsay]

More deflection by parroting more misinformation

NFBW: where is the religion of Jesus Christ addressed in the US Constitution? END2208252114

 

[Clyde 154]

NFBW: where is the religion of Jesus Christ addressed in the US Constitution? END2208252114

There is an "inarguable" fact.........not all American's of the era when the Constiution was drafted were Christians, yet......all those who were responsible for the actual content of the US Constitution used the commonly accepted moral guidance and ethical viewpoint and standards of acceptable behaviors that were derived from English Common Law which drew from the established princples drew from the Holy Bible and the God of both the Hebrew nation and Christian Nation....that both share in the eternally rightous laws of God.......specifically, US Law draws upon the principles estasblished by the 10 Commandments as historically documented during this nations founding period of documentation. As made clear by James Madison.

As Demostrated........Blackstone's commentaries on the Laws of England played a great deal in the languge found in the US Constitution. Notice the passage, Blackstone is referenced by the courts when ".......whenever the court wishes to address the intent of the framers of our US Constitution......" Commentaries on the Laws of England - Wikipedia

The following found in the US system of Jurisprudence

1. The rights of persons.......in the Constitution comes from English Commentaries.....i.e., Blackstone, the rest of the list includes but not limitied to...

2. The rights of things.....deal with personal property rights of ownership

3. Of private wrongs (moral acceptability of all private individuals)....such as TORT.....when one individual causes another personal loss in some form or another and EQUITY....making the wronged person WHOLE. These principles are found to exist in all civil actions.

4. Of public wrongs ....i.e., "criminal laws".

Next..........the separtion of powers as directly quoted by John Adams comes for the book of Jer. 17:19 History proves the delegates of the Constitution knew and comprehended the fact of "......the flaws in human nature found to exist as recorded in scripture, in Genesis 3 and Jer. 17" and designed a system to check the nature of men to be overwhelemed with power and greed when endowed with great authority.........thus, they created our system of checks and balances found in the US Constitution. How do we know they refernecedd the Bible? They stated as much, making it clear and unambigous.

The 3 branches created resembles the roles of God as referenced in Isa. 33:22, "For the Lord (God....Jesus is defined as God in John Chapte 1), is our Judge (judicial branch)..........the Lord is our Lawgiver (legislative branch)........the Lord is our King (executive branch). As made clear by John Adams.

"We the People" (Ex. 24:3, Deut. 31:12-13, 1 Sam. 8:10-18).......the authority to address WE THE PEOPLE...et.al

"In order to form a MORE PERFECT UNION (an oxymoron)" (Ps. 133:1, Matt.19:6, Genesis 2:24).....all examples of a perfect union in becoming one in goal and intent.

"Establish Justice" (Ps. 82:3, Prov. 1:3, Prov. 21:3, Ez. 45:9)....no respect of person supposedly found in US jurisprudence (Acts 10:34)........justice is blind, regardless of one's economic, social position or fame.

"Insure domestic tranquality" Biblical principle established in (Lev. 26:6)

"Promote General Welfare" (not as in income redistribution) but, but the assurance that everyone be granted an equal opportunity at success, when following the common laws established.......as referenced from (1 Chron. 22:13, Jos. 1:8, Pr.31:20).......establishing a set tithe to law in store for those in real need......not a progressive income redistribution communist scam.

The list goes on and on and on.............. as based upon Blackstones commontaries...........

 

[whutTHEYsay]

all those who were responsible for the actual content of the US Constitution used the commonly accepted moral guidance and ethical viewpoint and standards of acceptable behaviors

NFBW: The Constitution is a secular document. It has absolutely nothing to do with religion, Moses and the Ten Commandments, or William Blackstone’s dead encyclopedia of the King’s laws. The US Constitution was a living document produced by enlightened humans to organize flawed and fallible human beings into governing themselves in as much freedom conscience for individuals as much as humanly possible. A humanists gram come true. END2208260032

Free Exercise Clause / government may not penalize or discriminate against an individual or a group of individuals because of their religious views nor may it compel persons to affirm any particular beliefs

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[whutTHEYsay]

There is an "inarguable" fact.........not all American's of the era when the Constiution was drafted were Christians, yet......all those who were responsible for the actual content of the US Constitution used the commonly accepted moral guidance and ethical viewpoint and standards of acceptable behaviors that were derived from English Common Law which drew from the established princples drew frontier on the Holy Bible and the God of both the Hebrew nation and Christian Nation....that both share in the eternally rightous laws of God.......specifically, US Law draws upon the principles estasblished by the 10 Commandments as historically documented during this nations founding period of documentation. As made clear by James Madison.

As Demostrated........Blackstone's commentaries on the Laws of England played a great deal in the languge found in the US Constitution. Notice the passage, Blackstone is referenced by the courts when ".......whenever the court wishes to address the intent of the framers of our US Constitution......" Commentaries on the Laws of England - Wikipedia

The following found in the US system of Jurisprudence

1. The rights of persons.......in the Constitution comes from English Commentaries.....i.e., Blackstone, the rest of the list includes but not limitied to...

2. The rights of things.....deal with personal property rights of ownership

3. Of private wrongs (moral acceptability of all private individuals)....such as TORT.....when one individual causes another personal loss in some form or another and EQUITY....making the wronged person WHOLE. These principles are found to exist in all civil actions.

4. Of public wrongs ....i.e., "criminal laws".

Next..........the separtion of powers as directly quoted by John Adams comes for the book of Jer. 17:19 History proves the delegates of the Constitution knew and comprehended the fact of "......the flaws in human nature found to exist as recorded in scripture, in Genesis 3 and Jer. 17" and designed a system to check the nature of men to be overwhelemed with power and greed when endowed with great authority.........thus, they created our system of checks and balances found in the US Constitution. How do we know they refernecedd the Bible? They stated as much, making it clear and unambigous.

The 3 branches created resembles the roles of God as referenced in Isa. 33:22, "For the Lord (God....Jesus is defined as God in John Chapte 1), is our Judge (judicial branch)..........the Lord is our Lawgiver (legislative branch)........the Lord is our King (executive branch). As made clear by John Adams.

"We the People" (Ex. 24:3, Deut. 31:12-13, 1 Sam. 8:10-18).......the authority to address WE THE PEOPLE...et.al

"In order to form a MORE PERFECT UNION (an oxymoron)" (Ps. 133:1, Matt.19:6, Genesis 2:24).....all examples of a perfect union in becoming one in goal and intent.

"Establish Justice" (Ps. 82:3, Prov. 1:3, Prov. 21:3, Ez. 45:9)....no respect of person supposedly found in US jurisprudence (Acts 10:34)........justice is blind, regardless of one's economic, social position or fame.

"Insure domestic tranquality" Biblical principle established in (Lev. 26:6)

"Promote General Welfare" (not as in income redistribution) but, but the assurance that everyone be granted an equal opportunity at success, when following the common laws established.......as referenced from (1 Chron. 22:13, Jos. 1:8, Pr.31:20).......establishing a set tithe to law in store for those in real need......not a progressive income redistribution communist scam.

The list goes on and on and on.............. as based upon Blackstones commontaries...........

NFBW: the Free Exercise Clause, says government may not penalize and may not compel persons to affirm any of these chapters and verses from a book allegedly written for humans by the one and only true God.

NFBW: Jer. 17:19 is not in the Constitution

The 3 branches created resembles the roles of God as referenced in Isa. 33:22, "For the Lord.Jesus is defined as God in John Chapte 1),
NFBW: the five Founders who became President did not believe in the Holy Trinity CATHOLIC CASH FLOW SCAM

Insure domestic tranquality" Biblical principle established in (Lev. 26:6)
NFBW: Yes by making sure no one is forced to believe shit like (Lev. 26:6) is the WORD OF GOD.


We the People" (Ex. 24:3, Deut. 31:12-13, 1 Sam. 8:10-18).......the authority to address WE THE PEOPLE...et.a
NFBW; “, “Everything the Lord has said we will do.” You are nuts Clyde 154 The Constitution tells Me “we the people” can tell your God to fuck off if we want to Clyde 154 END2208260108