Congressional panel investigating the origins of Covid finds that the virus originated in a lab .

[Robert W]

Meanwhile, Trump held Mass Spreader events, like the one that killed Herman Cain. (Ah, Poor Herman Cain, he died as he lived, a pathetic Uncle Tom.)

Why didn't you support your claims JoeB131? I have seen your fairy tales when it comes to loans to buy or refinance homes.

 

[Robert W]

Okay, they sought hospital care, no proof they had Covid.

Why did you blast Trump when as you say, there was no proof those on ships had Covid19.
Per your claim, merely going to the hospital is no proof they have Covid19.

 

[JoeB131]

Why didn't you support your claims JoeB131? I have seen your fairy tales when it comes to loans to buy or refinance homes.

So you are clear on this for future reference

I only do links when I feel like doing them.

It's been my experience when a Conservatard asks for a link, they 1) Never read them, 2) claim the source is biased (even if there's video), or 3) take one small part out of context to supposedly prove their point.

Why did you blast Trump when as you say, there was no proof those on ships had Covid19.
Per your claim, merely going to the hospital is no proof they have Covid19.

Are you fucking retarded? I'm really starting to ask this, because frankly, you seem to have some kind of learning disability I can't work around.

They KNEW that Covid had broken out on those ships. Instead of holding everyone on the ship for a period to make sure they weren't infected, they got them off the ships and sent them home.

 

[DBA]

Not really.

I guess for a Bernie Bro it is....

A smoking gun is what Breonna Taylor's boyfriend was holding when the cops shot him, but the cops were still put on trial.

They just happened to come down with a bad cold at the same time as the leak? Yeah, ok.

 

[DBA]

Debunked by who? Where's the evidence?

Where is your evidence that it escaped from a wet market? A House investigation was done and their conclusion was that it most likely escaped from the lab. Why do you choose to defy the results of the investigation in favor of a conspiracy theory conjured up to deflect responsibility away from the lab?

When were the CIA and the Roswell Aliens involved? This is complete conspiracy theory bunk with no evidence. I know you guys WANT it be true because in some way, it excuses Trump's criminal incompetence in dealing with it.

Quite the opposite. You are the one that bought into a conspiracy theory. We are on the side of the available evidence. You are not.

 

[JoeB131]

They just happened to come down with a bad cold at the same time as the leak? Yeah, ok.

Except you haven't proven it was a leak or that they had Covid. November is a time when lots of people get colds.

Where is your evidence that it escaped from a wet market? A House investigation was done and their conclusion was that it most likely escaped from the lab. Why do you choose to defy the results of the investigation in favor of a conspiracy theory conjured up to deflect responsibility away from the lab?

They found the virus in the wet market. Also, all the initial cases were from the wet market. That's the evidence.

Evidence points to Wuhan market as source of covid-19 outbreak

Genetic testing on samples collected during the earliest days of the covid-19 outbreak suggests it is likely that the virus spread from animals to humans at the Huanan seafood market

www.newscientist.com

An analysis of genetic samples taken from the Huanan seafood market in Wuhan, China, has identified a shortlist of wild animals being sold there that were the most likely source of the virus that sparked the covid-19 pandemic.

While bats are thought to have been the original carrier of the SARS-CoV-2 virus, it has been previously proposed that an intermediate wild species became infected and brought it to the market, where an outbreak in humans began. Stalls there sold live animals as well as seafood.
However, a new study by an international team concludes it is more likely that the virus emerged from wild animals sold at the market and not from a lab escape. The researchers re-analysed data from 800 samples collected at the Huanan market by the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention beginning on 1 January 2020, and also studied viral genomes from the earliest covid-19 cases.

Team member Ed Holmes at the University of Sydney says Chinese investigators swabbed surfaces, freezers, drains and cages to test for the presence of SARS-CoV-2.




A bunch of hacks in the GOP house means less than nothing to me. I'm guessing not a one of them went to China to talk to witnesses or anything. Meanwhile, REAL scientists, doing real science, have tracked the virus back to the Wet Market.

Quite the opposite. You are the one that bought into a conspiracy theory. We are on the side of the available evidence. You are not.

I think you fall into the trap that most conspiracy theories fall into.

That a conspiracy theory validates your emotions.

Let's take the assassination of JFK. It just boggles the minds of most people that a promising young president could be cut short by a loner with a gun.

So we fill in all sorts of conspiracies that involve the CIA, Secret Service, Cubans, the KGB, Roswell Aliens or whatever else we want to think it MIGHT be, depending on what your political leanings are.

Same thing here. Diseases jump from animals to humans all the time.

AIDS probably originated in Chimpanzees. But in the 1980's, you had all sorts of bizarre conspiracy theories about how AIDS was a plot to kill off the gays or blacks or whatever.

Zoonotic Diseases

Learn about zoonotic diseases, infectious illnesses that you get from animals.

my.clevelandclinic.org

 

[DBA]

Except you haven't proven it was a leak or that they had Covid. November is a time when lots of people get colds.

Why is the onus on me to prove that? You haven't proven that it came from a wet market.

My source is a 2 year investigation.

Seriously, it is a major coincidence that this leak just happened to be in a wet market in the same city as the lab that was doing gain of function research. You must realize that.

A bunch of hacks in the GOP house means less than nothing to me. I'm guessing not a one of them went to China to talk to witnesses or anything. Meanwhile, REAL scientists, doing real science, have tracked the virus back to the Wet Market.

A bunch of scientists that put politics over science doesn't mean anything to me. Remember, these are some of the same people that have decided that it is not a mental illness for a boy to think he is a girl. Some science that is.

That a conspiracy theory validates your emotions.

Et tu, Brute?

 

[JoeB131]

Why is the onus on me to prove that? You haven't proven that it came from a wet market.

I just posted an extensive scientific article on exactly that. Sweet evil jesus, are you dense!

My source is a 2 year investigation.

By political hacks trying to please Cheeto Hitler.

Seriously, it is a major coincidence that this leak just happened to be in a wet market in the same city as the lab that was doing gain of function research. You must realize that.

There's research being conducted all over the world.

There's no evidence they were working on SARS viruses, which is what Covid-19 is.

A bunch of scientists that put politics over science doesn't mean anything to me. Remember, these are some of the same people that have decided that it is not a mental illness for a boy to think he is a girl. Some science that is.

Ah, yes, how much time do you spend thinking about Transgender people? You seem pretty obsessed with them.

 

[yidnar]

Irrelevant to what I said. Your quote was screwed up but yes, I blame Biden for what goes on during his administration.

so Bribens to blame for allowing infected undocumented migrants to cross our border ..

WH defends not requiring negative COVID test from illegal migrants

Jen Psaki defended the Biden administration’s decision not to require coronavirus vaccines or negative COVID-19 tests for people illegally crossing the border seeking asylum.

nypost.com

 

[yidnar]

For instance, a virus that developed in a Racoon Dog and spread to humans is not likely to spread to a house cat or dog in this country after it's been few a few dozen human hosts.





Don't complain to me, bitch, complain to all those idiot republicans who want to ban abortion after SIX weeks.

Look, everyone, I got a new Mormon Stalker.

treasonous Chicom shill .. commiecrat !

 

[yidnar]

Wait for your insult? Shit no man. I plan to guarantee you will learn new stuff when I tell you new stuff. Trump did not lie. Trump took immediate action once he was told by Democrats that passengers to CA and Washington state they had a problem. Joe, they were our first line of defense. Why don't you say out loud here that Democrats allowed the Virus to get into the USA? They did as you well know.

CDC reports the first laboratory-confirmed case of the 2019 Novel Coronavirus in the U.S. from samples taken on January 18 in Washington state and on the same day activates its Emergency Operations Center (EOC) to respond to the emerging outbreak.

CDC Museum COVID-19 Timeline​

WH defends not requiring negative COVID test from illegal migrants

Jen Psaki defended the Biden administration’s decision not to require coronavirus vaccines or negative COVID-19 tests for people illegally crossing the border seeking asylum.

nypost.com

 

[Robert W]

because Trump banned Chinese people but let Americans back in.

Americans going home must really cause you to piss your pants JoeB131.

 

[yidnar]

Trump was well aware people on the Cruise ships had been exposed. Holding them in quarantine would have been appropriate. In fact, such quarantine measures were used frequently in the Obama years to contain the West Nile virus, Ebola, etc.



Yeah, you're a legend in your own mind, Magic Underpants.

No, I'm not an expert, but the doctors who are say otherwise.




Because it's kind of meaningless in the abortion debate. You don't want to remove EMBRYOES that make it to the uterus. You want to ban abortion at week six. You want to ban the use of abortion pills. You want to ban IUD's, that keep the zygote from ever attaching to the Uterine wall.

once again ..

WH defends not requiring negative COVID test from illegal migrants

Jen Psaki defended the Biden administration’s decision not to require coronavirus vaccines or negative COVID-19 tests for people illegally crossing the border seeking asylum.

nypost.com

 

[Robert W]

WH defends not requiring negative COVID test from illegal migrants

Jen Psaki defended the Biden administration’s decision not to require coronavirus vaccines or negative COVID-19 tests for people illegally crossing the border seeking asylum.

nypost.com

Fucking Biden has most likely caused more deaths due to CV19. Thanks a lot JoeB131 for your presidency.

 

[Robert W]

Didn’t COVID spread throughout the world. Was that Trump’s fault?

The Democrat’s conspiracy theory of COVID coming from a wet market has been debunked. Those of us with common sense figured that out a long, long time ago. I posted on this forum shortly after the outbreak that my wife(M.D.) said the wet market theory made little sense and that the virus had all the hallmarks of a man-made or at least a manipulated virus.

Face it, the virus was manipulated man, in a lab funded by Fauci’s department. I am not saying the leak is Fauci’s fault nor that it was intentionally leaked, but once it occurred, Fauci and his buddies did everything they could do to cover up the origins. They knew if they could push a false narrative that the MSM would pick up that many of the bots like yourself would accept it as fact. It is hard to de-program people like you even when presented with facts. Accepting the narrative you are fed is in your DNA.

Biden caused the disease to spread a lot more. Even though he had the Trump vaccines.

 

[yidnar]

The rest of the world didn't have our bad results. In fact, the rest of the world did a reasonably good job containing it. Again, I go back to the example of Japan. They went all in on the things Trump fought tooth and nail- Lockdowns, masking, vaccinations.

No, Trump never "Caused" the virus, but his denialism, and inability to work with governors and agencies made it much worse. WHich is why at one point, while the US only accounted for 4% of the global population, we had 25% of the covid cases and deaths.



Debunked by who? Where's the evidence?

Actually, the wet market theory makes MORE sense.

If it was a leak from the lab, then the outbreak should have been in the neighborhood immediately around the lab. Unlike American culture, where we all have cars and commute to our workplace, most Chinese either walk or use public transportation. Which means most of the workers didn't live near the wet market, they lived near the lab... But, no outbreak at the lab.

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Keep in mind that Wuhan is not a unified city like Paris, with a small river running down the middle. The Yangtze is a giant river, roughly a mile across, and Wuhan feels like two separate cities. (I was in Wuhan in mid-2019.) In fact, it was originally multiple cities, Wuchang on one side and Hanyang on the other. The name “Wuhan” was constructed out of those two names, and one other city. As you can see from the map, the famous Wuhan Institute of Virology is about 12 kilometers from the animal market and on the other side of the huge river.






When were the CIA and the Roswell Aliens involved? This is complete conspiracy theory bunk with no evidence. I know you guys WANT it be true because in some way, it excuses Trump's criminal incompetence in dealing with it.

dems were also saying things were safe early in the outbreak ..

 

[daveman]

Actually, it is. They are both removing a fetus.

The only difference is WHY they are removing the fetus.

One is a medically-necessary procedure, without which the mother's life may be jeopardized. The fetus is almost never going to be viable..

The other is done when the mother is inconvenienced by her pregnancy. The fetus almost always is viable.

Normal people can tell the difference. Death cultists cannot.

 

[daveman]

It's relevant because the president is responsible for what goes on during his administration.

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Can the President be held responsible when people he trusted lied to him?

 

[daveman]

It's been my experience when a Conservatard asks for a link, they 1) Never read them, 2) claim the source is biased (even if there's video)...

"Moonie times/faux news".

Every charge by a leftist is an admission.

 

[pknopp]

so Bribens to blame for allowing infected undocumented migrants to cross our border ..

WH defends not requiring negative COVID test from illegal migrants

Jen Psaki defended the Biden administration’s decision not to require coronavirus vaccines or negative COVID-19 tests for people illegally crossing the border seeking asylum.

nypost.com

Sure. Yes.