Congressional panel investigating the origins of Covid finds that the virus originated in a lab .

[pknopp]

Can the President be held responsible when people he trusted lied to him?

Yes, especially when he only hires the best.

 

[ThisIsMe]

it appears that the lefts claims about the origin of COVID [which mysteriously coincided with their Chicom allies claims] coming from nature has been found to be false by a Congressional Panel investigating the origins of COVID .. said panel has found the yes Covid did originate in a lab ..

https://www.newsnationnow.com/health/coronavirus/covid-lab-leak-misinformation-report/

 

[yidnar]

Yes, especially when he only hires the best.

his mistake was trusting democrat bureaucrats . a mistake he wont make again .. say by by to unelected radicals running gov agencies ..

 

[pknopp]

his mistake was trusting democrat bureaucrats . a mistake he wont make again .. say by by to unelected radicals running gov agencies ..

"Democrat bureaucrats" didn't force his hand on Bolton. (Or many of his other picks)

 

[DBA]

There's research being conducted all over the world.

There are only 59 biosafety level 4 labs(BSL4) labs around the world. The one in Wuhan is the largest out of only 13 in all of Asia. It is a real coincidence that this originated in the city of Wuhan.

Fifty-nine labs around world handle the deadliest pathogens – only a quarter score high on safety

There's no evidence they were working on SARS viruses, which is what Covid-19 is.

You are stretching…again. Do you ever change your mind when evidence is provided that is contrary to your pre-conceptions and what you have been made to believe? Will you ever learn that you and others like you are just useful idiots of the Democratic Party and globalists around the world? That is a purely rhetorical question. I already know the answer.

• Starting in at least 2016 – and with no indication of a stop prior to the COVID-19 outbreak – WIV researchers conducted experiments involving RaTG13, the bat coronavirus identified by the WIV in January 2020 as its closest sample to SARS-CoV-2 (96.2% similar). The WIV became a focal point for international coronavirus research after the 2003 SARS outbreak and has since studied animals including mice, bats, and pangolins.
• The WIV has a published record of conducting “gain-of-function” research to engineer chimeric viruses. But the WIV has not been transparent or consistent about its record of studying viruses most similar to the COVID-19 virus, including “RaTG13,” which it sampled from a cave in Yunnan Province in 2013 after several miners died of SARS-like illness.

https://2017-2021.state.gov/fact-sheet-activity-at-the-wuhan-institute-of-virology/

 

[JoeB131]

Americans going home must really cause you to piss your pants JoeB131.

They do if they are bringing a deadly disease with them... which is exactly what happened on Trump's watch.

He had no quarantine in place, which is what Obama used during outbreaks of diseases when we HAD a pandemic response plan. Trump threw out the pandemic response plan and disbanded the pandemic response team.

One is a medically-necessary procedure, without which the mother's life may be jeopardized. The fetus is almost never going to be viable..

The other is done when the mother is inconvenienced by her pregnancy. The fetus almost always is viable.

Normal people can tell the difference. Death cultists cannot.

Except you claim that every fetus is a person. That's the point. The problem with your laws is that the woman who needs a medically necessary abortion has to jump through a bunch of hoops to get one. Some of them have died.

 

[JoeB131]

dems were also saying things were safe early in the outbreak ..

You mean they were saying, "Don't go around beating up Asians."

Anti-Asian American Hate Crimes Spike During the Early Stages of the COVID-19 Pandemic - PMC

The recent high-profile cases of hate crimes in the U.S., especially those targeting Asian Americans, have raised concerns about their risk of victimization. Following the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic, intimations—and even accusations—that the ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Meanwhile Trump was going around saying shit like "China VIrus" and "Kung Flu" and wondering why his redneck supporters were going around beating up Asian people.

 

[JoeB131]

There are only 59 biosafety level 4 labs(BSL4) labs around the world. The one in Wuhan is the largest out of only 13 in all of Asia. It is a real coincidence that this originated in the city of Wuhan.

That's only a very select definition. Level 4 indicates that there's a level 1, 2, and 3, of which there are thousands.

It's not a coincidence at all, given that there are labs like this all over the world.

You are stretching…again. Do you ever change your mind when evidence is provided that is contrary to your pre-conceptions and what you have been made to believe? Will you ever learn that you and others like you are just useful idiots of the Democratic Party and globalists around the world? That is a purely rhetorical question. I already know the answer.

You haven't presented any evidence. The WIV worked on a Bat-virus that wasn't covid 4 years earlier. That's not even in the same ballpark.

On the other hand, a SHITLOAD of COVID-19 virus was found in the Wet market in January 2020.

the bat coronavirus identified by the WIV in January 2020 as its closest sample to SARS-CoV-2 (96.2% similar).

For point of reference, you are 98% similar to a Chimpanzee.

My point stands. If it was a lab leak, the first cases would have been IN OR NEAR the lab, not a wet market 12 miles away across the river.

 

[DBA]

That's only a very select definition. Level 4 indicates that there's a level 1, 2, and 3, of which there are thousands.

It's not a coincidence at all, given that there are labs like this all over the world.

Level 4 is where this virus would have escaped. You are attempting to obfuscate.

My point stands. If it was a lab leak, the first cases would have been IN OR NEAR the lab, not a wet market 12 miles away across the river.

The first cases were likely from those working in the lab. They were sick. That isn’t a coincidence.

You were duped and too dense to realize it, even now. It explains why you continue to vote as you do. No amount of information or facts can penetrate your thick, indoctrinated skull.

 

[JoeB131]

Level 4 is where this virus would have escaped. You are attempting to obfuscate.

Works on the assumption that the virus WOULD have escaped. Why couldn't it have escaped from a level-3 facility that no one recognized what it was.

Or a Raccoon Dog that wasn't aware it was supposed to have a level because someone was planning to eat it.

The first cases were likely from those working in the lab. They were sick. That isn’t a coincidence.

But not from Covid. They caught a cold in November in a temperate zone.

You were duped and too dense to realize it, even now. It explains why you continue to vote as you do. No amount of information or facts can penetrate your thick, indoctrinated skull.

No, guy, you just haven't presented any evidence other than, "The Chinese are Evil".

Like that excuses Trump's criminal mismanagement in controlling the virus.

 

[Robert W]

They do if they are bringing a deadly disease with them... which is exactly what happened on Trump's watch.

He had no quarantine in place, which is what Obama used during outbreaks of diseases when we HAD a pandemic response plan. Trump threw out the pandemic response plan and disbanded the pandemic response team.

You are talking about the watch of Jay Inslee and Gavin Newsom pal. They had no plan in place. Trump had a staff of doctors working on the issue when it reached him.

 

[Robert W]

Except you claim that every fetus is a person. That's the point. The problem with your laws is that the woman who needs a medically necessary abortion has to jump through a bunch of hoops to get one. Some of them have died.

You claim that every fetus is not a human whose life depends on the mother refusing to have it executed.

 

[JoeB131]

You are talking about the watch of Jay Inslee and Gavin Newsom pal. They had no plan in place. Trump had a staff of doctors working on the issue when it reached him.

Trump fumbled the ball from the start, when he called it a hoax.

You claim that every fetus is not a human whose life depends on the mother refusing to have it executed.

Exactly.

Woman who wants a baby: "Little Timmy is due in June".
Woman who doesn't want a baby: "I need to take care of that problem on Tuesday".

See how that works. THE REAL FUCKING WORLD! Maybe not your silly little World, where the women are all taking anti-depressants while pumping out babies to get their old man into the Celestial Heaven, but in the real world where women have agency, um, that's how it works.

 

[Robert W]

Trump fumbled the ball from the start, when he called it a hoax.

What makes you claim that?

AP FACT CHECK: Biden distorts Trump’s words on virus ‘hoax’​

Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden is presenting a distorted account of President Donald Trump’s words on the coronavirus, wrongly suggesting Trump branded the virus a hoax.

In fact, Trump pronounced Democratic criticism of his pandemic response a hoax.

AP FACT CHECK: Biden distorts Trump's words on virus 'hoax'

Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden is presenting a distorted account of President Donald Trump's words on the coronavirus, wrongly suggesting Trump branded the virus a hoax.

apnews.com

States are called States since each is an independent Government that is allied to the United States.
Any failure of responding belongs to the Governors of each state and not on Trump.

 

[Robert W]

Trump fumbled the ball from the start, when he called it a hoax.




Exactly.

Woman who wants a baby: "Little Timmy is due in June".
Woman who doesn't want a baby: "I need to take care of that problem on Tuesday".

See how that works. THE REAL FUCKING WORLD! Maybe not your silly little Mormon World, where the women are all taking anti-depressants while pumping out babies to get their old man into the Celestial Heaven, but in the real world where women have agency, um, that's how it works.

I am sticking to the baby. What you approve is what I believe is murder. The fact you don't get it is not very important. Millions of my fellow citizens get why the unborn is a human and should be protected against all who want them killed.

 

[JoeB131]

What makes you claim that?

AP FACT CHECK: Biden distorts Trump’s words on virus ‘hoax’​

Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden is presenting a distorted account of President Donald Trump’s words on the coronavirus, wrongly suggesting Trump branded the virus a hoax.

In fact, Trump pronounced Democratic criticism of his pandemic response a hoax.

AP FACT CHECK: Biden distorts Trump's words on virus 'hoax'

Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden is presenting a distorted account of President Donald Trump's words on the coronavirus, wrongly suggesting Trump branded the virus a hoax.

apnews.com

States are called States since each is an independent Government that is allied to the United States.
Any failure of responding belongs to the Governors of each state and not on Trump.

Come on, guy, he called it a hoax. Don't try to sugar coat it.

He told people it would clear up by Easter.
He admitted to Bob Woodward that he downplayed the seriousness of it to not rattle the markets.

I am sticking to the baby. What you approve is what I believe is murder.

You also believe that the Native Americans used to be white and that you are wearing magic underwear. Your irrational beliefs shouldn't be a basis for policy.

The fact you don't get it is not very important.

I agree. I have had ZERO abortions in my life.

The reality is, the only person whose opinion matters on this issue is the woman with the pregnancy she can't afford right now.

Millions of my fellow citizens get why the unborn is a human and should be protected against all who want them killed.

And they are perfectly free to not abort any fetuses in their own bodies, but otherwise mind your own fucking business.

 

[Robert W]

Come on, guy, he called it a hoax. Don't try to sugar coat it.

He told people it would clear up by Easter.
He admitted to Bob Woodward that he downplayed the seriousness of it to not rattle the markets.

Take your argument up with Fact checkers who tell everybody Trump did not call the disease a hoax.

 

[Robert W]

You also believe that the Native Americans used to be white and that you are wearing magic underwear. Your irrational beliefs shouldn't be a basis for policy.

You have never asked me about those issues. I do not have a statement ever made by me about Native Americans color.

Underwear is not magic. Who gave you that idea? Again you attack me over two strawmen.

 

[Robert W]

The reality is, the only person whose opinion matters on this issue is the woman with the pregnancy she can't afford right now.

Human life never should be measured as a factor of dollars. What you want is tantamount to a woman with children who are not adults magically having the right to execute them because she suddenly became poor. It sounds like a plan by the nazis. Susan Smith for example has your approval to drown her children.

 

[Robert W]

And they are perfectly free to not abort any fetuses in their own bodies, but otherwise mind your own fucking business.

Joe, I agree with your point they are free to not kill children they carry. I don't enjoy talking about this topic since we have Americans who to me talk like they are actually Nazis. Nazis Joe believed in mass killing too.