Confederate constitution legalized slavery

[JakeStarkey]

No, I'm not a wannabe, I am.

You are a dimwit pretending that what he wants to believe about history has anything to do with reality. You're just kidding yourself.

No, he presents a point of view. And what does that tell you about our Constitution? It tells me that the founding fathers didn't do a very good job, because they wrote a document vague enough to be open to interpretation.

Which was crushed forever in the Civil War.

How can Constitutional questions be settled by a war? The question remains in some people's minds. Constitutional issues can only be resolved through constitutional means. Was there a constitutional amendment passed prohibiting secession? Were legal mechanisms put in place describing a constitutional process for secession? If not, then the Constitution remains just vague enough to cause problems in the future.

This is why the restoration cause exists, as it is a legal means to return to the Articles of Confederation in order that we may once again have a union/confederacy of States under a wholly federal system. The Articles were fine for the purpose of a union of States, the 1787/1789 U.S. Constitution sought to create the national system that exists today wherein it hold not only an authority over the individual citizen, but an indefinite supremacy over all persons, and things. In other words a tyranny.

Returing to the ACC is merely mental masturbation: feels good, is sterile.

 

[JakeStarkey]

James cannot accept the truth.

 

[James Everett]

We are not a confederacy, we are the UNITED STATES of AMERICA.

Good grief! Do you even know what you are posting?
A union of States is a Confederacy of States: if not then it is a consolidation into a single State, hence the State of America.
Article I States....
"The Stile of this Confederacy shall be the United States of America"
And if your SCOTUS is correct in that the unions perpetuity was somehow carried over to the new CONstitution, then it remained up until Lincolns rebellion a CONFEDERACY.

 

[James Everett]

You are a dimwit pretending that what he wants to believe about history has anything to do with reality. You're just kidding yourself.

No, he presents a point of view. And what does that tell you about our Constitution? It tells me that the founding fathers didn't do a very good job, because they wrote a document vague enough to be open to interpretation.

Which was crushed forever in the Civil War.

How can Constitutional questions be settled by a war? The question remains in some people's minds. Constitutional issues can only be resolved through constitutional means. Was there a constitutional amendment passed prohibiting secession? Were legal mechanisms put in place describing a constitutional process for secession? If not, then the Constitution remains just vague enough to cause problems in the future.

This is why the restoration cause exists, as it is a legal means to return to the Articles of Confederation in order that we may once again have a union/confederacy of States under a wholly federal system. The Articles were fine for the purpose of a union of States, the 1787/1789 U.S. Constitution sought to create the national system that exists today wherein it hold not only an authority over the individual citizen, but an indefinite supremacy over all persons, and things. In other words a tyranny.

Returing to the ACC is merely mental masturbation: feels good, is sterile.

As we can see, this is the type of base intellect that makes tyranny so simple for tyrants.

 

[Unkotare]

We are not a confederacy, we are the UNITED STATES of AMERICA.

Good grief! Do you even know what you are posting?
A union of States is a Confederacy of States:

There you go again, trying to use words you don't understand.

 

[James Everett]

We are not a confederacy, we are the UNITED STATES of AMERICA.

Good grief! Do you even know what you are posting?
A union of States is a Confederacy of States:

There you go again, trying to use words you don't understand.

Its NOT difficult to understand, but easy for YOU to deny....
A union of States is a Confederacy of States: if not then it is a consolidation into a single State, hence the State of America.
Article I States....
"The Stile of this Confederacy shall be the United States of America"
And if your SCOTUS is correct in that the unions perpetuity was somehow carried over to the new CONstitution, then it remained up until Lincolns rebellion a CONFEDERACY.
Definition of Confederacy...
1. A union of persons, parties, or states; a league

Definition of union...

• 1. The act of uniting or the state of being united.
• 2. A combination so formed, especially an alliance or confederation of people, parties, or political entities for mutual interest or benefit.

 

[Unkotare]

It's too bad you never got the chance to study History or Political Science.

 

[James Everett]

It's too bad you never got the chance to study History or Political Science.

Oh, but you would be wrong, Such studies are what have allowed me to debate far above your head and pay grade so to speak.
You just continue to show your base understanding, hence all left to your sad disposal are these petty insults.
Such will never prove your point or worth.
I have no interest in picking on you, as I only respond to your posts directed to me: such is not my nature to pick on or bully others. You are doing this to yourself.

 

[JakeStarkey]

James, not one person here has failed to destroy your arguments.

You are no towering intellect.

Your knowledge is surpassed by at least five others on this thread.

It is what tis: you are having a fun intellectual pastime that means nothing in and of itself.

 

[James Everett]

James, not one person here has failed to destroy your arguments.

You are no towering intellect.

Your knowledge is surpassed by at least five others on this thread.

It is what tis: you are having a fun intellectual pastime that means nothing in and of itself.

Again, JAKE,
All anyone need do is read the thread to see the truth.
You and your lil buddies have been defeated at every turn, and those who recognized this fact have left the field, leaving only cannon fodder.
No, I do not claim to be a "Towering Intellect" I am only the messenger of truth, to which you have no defense.
You and your friend may lie on the ground bleeding and unable to fight claiming victory, but you have been left behind as casualties by the few that knew they had been defeated, and chose to retreat.

 

[JakeStarkey]

You are a messenger, James, that has failed. History, time itself, life experiences, and the rest of humanity invalidate any hope for returning to the ACC. Can't happen.

You are the black knight without arms and legs claiming victory.

That exists only in your head.

 

[James Everett]

You are a messenger, James, that has failed. History, time itself, life experiences, and the rest of humanity invalidate any hope for returning to the ACC. Can't happen.

You are the black knight without arms and legs claiming victory.

That exists only in your head.

Oh but, JAKE, the truth is reaching others and the cause is rising day by day. The rest of humanity is of no interest, the interest is only in the people of the Southern Confederate States, they will be the ones to correct history and our course through the future. The divide grows more evident by the day. All one need do is look at that "Red/Blue map to see this FACT. We are a different people from the North, with different values, and morality.
This will not change, your governments hegemony is being exposed to the eyes of our people, you think in short terms, while we in long terms.
We honour the principles of the founders and wish to return to their form of government under the Articles and common law, wherein one is free to do as one chooses as long as in doing so one does not infringe on the life, liberty, or property of another. The Yankee on the other hand wishes to deny liberty, and govern it not based in freewill, but through a national governing body, wherein it holds authority over not only the individual citizen, but an indefinite supremacy over all persons and things.

 

[JakeStarkey]

"the truth is reaching others and the cause is rising day by day" is not happening.

 

[James Everett]

"the truth is reaching others and the cause is rising day by day" is not happening.

Good, close your eyes to the truth, it insures that our work is unencumbered.

 

[JakeStarkey]

"the truth is reaching others and the cause is rising day by day" is not happening.

Good, close your eyes to the truth, it insures that our work is unencumbered.

 

[Unkotare]

It's too bad you never got the chance to study History or Political Science.

Oh, but you would be wrong, ....

Doesn't seem so. You present yourself as a buffoon who has read little, understood nothing, and is attempting to fill in the gaps with his own bitter little imagination. You apparently have no idea what a fool you are making of yourself.

The Articles of Confederation were proven a failure. That's why our current Constitution was written, idiot. We are NOT a "confederation." The Articles of Confederation are NOT coming back. Ever. The traitorous fools who insisted on the Civil War for the sake of the evil of slavery were vile scum who received only a fraction of the punishment they deserved. YOU are a low-life scum for attempting to play the apologist for them.

 

[Unkotare]

the truth is reaching others and the cause is rising day by day. ....

What "truth"? What "cause"? What do you play make-believe about ever happening, loser?

 

[James Everett]

It's too bad you never got the chance to study History or Political Science.

Oh, but you would be wrong, ....

Doesn't seem so. You present yourself as a buffoon who has read little, understood nothing, and is attempting to fill in the gaps with his own bitter little imagination. You apparently have no idea what a fool you are making of yourself.

The Articles of Confederation were proven a failure. That's why our current Constitution was written, idiot. We are NOT a "confederation." The Articles of Confederation are NOT coming back. Ever. The traitorous fools who insisted on the Civil War for the sake of the evil of slavery were vile scum who received only a fraction of the punishment they deserved. YOU are a low-life scum for attempting to play the apologist for them.

OK, Lets see how much you know, as compared to me.
What does James Madison Explain in #39?
What does he explain in #62
What does Hamilton explain in #32
What are the two systems that were cobbled together to form The 1787/1789 U.S. CONstitution?
Can you explain which parts represent these two systems and how they were suppose to operate in conjunction.
I will give you 30 MIN. That should be plenty of time: that is if you know anything about that system, or how those two systems were meant to function as counter acting systems?
GO!!!!
I already know that you don't know or understand squat, such has been apparent to anyone who has a clue.

 

[James Everett]

the truth is reaching others and the cause is rising day by day. ....

What "truth"? What "cause"? What do you play make-believe about ever happening, loser?

The Articles were only in effect for six years, and were completely ammendable using the legal process as prescribed in article XIII.
The Articles were just fine for the purpose as intended, however they weren't working for those who wanted a Government of centralized power so as to rival the power, grandeur and splendor of England and France, and from that desire, we have lost our freedom, to that very centralized power. YOUR GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN IN A STATE OF PERPETUAL WAR SINCE 1865, it operates on perpetual warmongering and hegemony, it has taken everything of value from the people. Even confiscating their Gold as currency and replacing it with "Federal reserve notes. YOUR GOVERNMENT IS BANKRUPT, AND YOU ARE CHATTEL PROPERTY.
On March 9, 1933, House Joint Resolution No. 192-10 by the 73rd Congress, was voted into law, which is the Emergency Banking Act. This Act declared the Treasury of the United States, ‘Bankrupt’, which is an impossible feat since the U. S. Treasury was secretly closed by the Congress twelve years earlier in 1921. The Emergency Banking Act succeeded in abrogating America’s gold standard and hypothecated all property found within the United States to the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve Bank.

All Sovereign American Citizens residing within the Republic of States suddenly and falsely were expatriated from their Sovereign American status without their knowledge or consent and their labor, souls, children, property, sweat equity and credit became the financial collateral for the public debt, which had then been converted into a Public Trust, which had been scripted after the ancient Roman Trusts.

“Script” money or [negotiable debt instruments] was issued by a private corporation, which is owned by a group of Sabbatean European Jewish Bankers and which is known to everybody as: “The Federal Reserve System.” These promissory notes were called Federal Reserve Notes and our future treatment by the U.S. Government was to be redefined under USC Title 50, ‘The Trading with the Enemy Act’ in which American citizens are defined as, “an enemy of their government” and this is the reason why Lincoln’s Declaration of War is renewed yearly by Congress and the President! In the same year President Roosevelt closed THE VIRGINIA COLONY CORPORATION and opened a new Government Corporation called: THE UNITED STATES, INC.
The Bankruptcy of The United States
United States Congressional Record, March 17, 1993 Vol. 33, page H-1303

Speaker-Rep. James Traficant, Jr. (Ohio) addressing the House:

"Mr. Speaker, we are here now in chapter 11.. Members of Congress are
official trustees presiding over the greatest reorganization of any Bankrupt
entity in world history, the U.S. Government. We are setting forth
hopefully, a blueprint for our future. There are some who say it is a
coroner's report that will lead to our demise.

It is an established fact that the United States Federal Government has
been dissolved by the Emergency Banking Act, March 9, 1933, 48 Stat. 1,
Public Law 89-719; declared by President Roosevelt, being bankrupt and
insolvent. H.J.R. 192, 73rd Congress m session June 5, 1933 - Joint
Resolution To Suspend The Gold Standard and Abrogate The Gold Clause
dissolved the Sovereign Authority of the United States and the official
capacities of all United States Governmental Offices, Officers, and
Departments and is further evidence that the United States Federal
Government exists today in name only.
The receivers of the United States Bankruptcy are the International
Bankers, via the United Nations, the World Bank and the International
Monetary Fund. All United States Offices, Officials, and Departments are now
operating within a de facto status in name only under Emergency War Powers.
With the Constitutional Republican form of Government now dissolved, the
receivers of the Bankruptcy have adopted a new form of government for the
United States. This new form of government is known as a Democracy, being an
established Socialist/Communist order under a new governor for America. This
act was instituted and established by transferring and/or placing the Office
of the Secretary of Treasury to that of the Governor of the International
Monetary Fund. Public Law 94-564, page 8, Section H.R. 13955 reads in part:
"The U.S. Secretary of Treasury receives no compensation for representing
the United States."

Gold and silver were such a powerful money during the founding of the
united states of America, that the founding fathers declared that only gold
or silver coins can be "money" in America. Since gold and silver coinage
were heavy and inconvenient for a lot of transactions, they were stored in
banks and a claim check was issued as a money substitute. People traded
their coupons as money, or "currency." Currency is not money, but a money
substitute. Redeemable currency must promise to pay a dollar equivalent in
gold or silver money. Federal Reserve Notes (FRNs) make no such promises,
and are not "money." A Federal Reserve Note is a debt obligation of the
federal United States government, not "money?' The federal United States
government and the U.S. Congress were not and have never been authorized by
the Constitution for the united states of America to issue currency of any
kind, but only lawful money, -gold and silver coin.
It is essential that we comprehend the distinction between real money and
paper money substitute. One cannot get rich by accumulating money
substitutes, one can only get deeper into debt. We the People no longer have
any "money." Most Americans have not been paid any "money" for a very long
time, perhaps not in their entire life. Now do you comprehend why you feel
broke?

 

[James Everett]

It's too bad you never got the chance to study History or Political Science.

Oh, but you would be wrong, ....

Doesn't seem so. You present yourself as a buffoon who has read little, understood nothing, and is attempting to fill in the gaps with his own bitter little imagination. You apparently have no idea what a fool you are making of yourself.

The Articles of Confederation were proven a failure. That's why our current Constitution was written, idiot. We are NOT a "confederation." The Articles of Confederation are NOT coming back. Ever. The traitorous fools who insisted on the Civil War for the sake of the evil of slavery were vile scum who received only a fraction of the punishment they deserved. YOU are a low-life scum for attempting to play the apologist for them.

OK, Lets see how much you know, as compared to me.
What does James Madison Explain in #39?
What does he explain in #62
What does Hamilton explain in #32
What are the two systems that were cobbled together to form The 1787/1789 U.S. CONstitution?
Can you explain which parts represent these two systems and how they were suppose to operate in conjunction.
I will give you 30 MIN. That should be plenty of time: that is if you know anything about that system, or how those two systems were meant to function as counter acting systems?
GO!!!!
I already know that you don't know or understand squat, such has been apparent to anyone who has a clue.

You have 15 more minutes, I'm waiting.