Comparing the AR with other Legal Firearms

[Vrenn]

LMAO!
An assault weapon is nothing more than a standard semi automatic with features designed to make it LOOK mean. It does not operate any different, it is not any more powerful than a plain semi automatic, and doesn’t fire any faster.

It is like taking a regular Toyota Camry, putting aero skirts on it and a wing, and then saying it is a race car.

The AR was designed with no intention of looking "Pretty". It is 100% functional to kill lots of people lots of times.

 

[Flash]

That is about the stupidest thing anyone has ever posted.

Yea, we know Moon Bat. You Leftest assholes think that the Bill of Rights is stupid.

The Founding Fathers didn't say that the right to keep and bear arms is for hunting, or recreation or even for self defense. It says specifically it is for the "security of a free state". It is right there in the Bill of Rights. I shit you not. Go look it up if you don't believe me.

You don't have a clue what that means, do you?

More likely you Leftest turds know what it means but do not like it because you don't want the US to be a free state. You want it to be the Socialist shithole that you have dreamed about your whole life.

Go **** yourself Moon Bat. You are an embarrassment to this country.

 

[Vrenn]

I have had enough of your BS. I have two decades of US army service and lots of experience with the M 16, both with Auto and Burst.
You are full of shit. The Civilian weapons are one squeeze, one shot weapons. Military application are either one squeeze and many rounds will fire until you ease off the trigger.

Cut the bullshit, boy.

Tell me, your 20 years experience wouldn't have involved an AK-25 would it, comrade?

 

[80zephyr]

Survivability increases significantly, how hard is that to understand?

While logical, I would really like to see some stats to prove that. Most mass shooters use the "fish in the barrel" method where they are in close and cannot miss.

 

[Vrenn]

According to the ATF it is not a machine gun. If you want to talk about honesty.

Neither are hand grenades but they are part of the 1934 law.

 

[Bell Huey]

Tell me, your 20 years experience wouldn't have involved an AK-25 would it, comrade?

Nope. I am 57 amd went in 83. Do the math.

 

[Vrenn]

Nope. I am 57 amd went in 83. Do the math.

The that might be the AK-75, comrade.

 

[Bell Huey]

Neither are hand grenades but they are part of the 1934 law.

They are a destructive device.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Yes, ban the AR-15 and people will use another gun. That is exactly WHY we need to ban them. And yes, it is not rocket science, the damage inflicted by the AR-15 is absolutely devastating. I have mentioned the word more than once in this thread, "cavitation".

"All bearable arms". No.
What will your excuse be when the "weapon of choice" moves AKs or AR10s?
Or shotguns?

This thread is at almost 500 posts. I jumped in early. The debate, or the "question" is really very simple. Does the AR-15, and its assault rifle variants, provide any unique, UNIQUE meaning can't be replicated by another gun, advantage in any area--self-defense, hunting, target shooting, that outweighs the DAMAGE caused by AR-15 used in mass shootings?

"All bearable arms".
Your question proceeds from a false premise, and is thus meaningless.

 

[Bell Huey]

The that might be the AK-75, comrade.

I never heard of a 75. Have heard of the 47 and 74.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Here is the deal, if we ban the AR-15, ban assault rifles just like we did before, with the same definition of an assault rifle that we had before....

.... we will do nothing to reduce access to assault rifles, and thus, have no effect on anything..
Ineffective, unnecessary, unconstitutional.
No.

 

[2aguy]

I never stated that - so why do you bring it up?

Correct - sooo?

Everyone knows that, sooo?

And as usual guys like you avoid the question:
Feel free to tell me when the last mass shooting/murder was done in the USA with an AK-47? or if you prefer with a M-16, SG550, a Tar-21, a G-3 or a G-36, etc. etc.
I am waiting....waiting....wai....

The first was an SKS, which is a soviet rifle, semi-automatic, used on 3/16/20........

An AK-47 was used in two shootings.....the semi-automatic version of the rifle...


8/3/19.....El Paso Walmart shooting

7/28/19.....Gilroy Garlic Festival

US mass shootings, 1982–2025: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation

The full data set from our in-depth investigation into mass shootings.

www.motherjones.com

Since none of the above rifles are fully automatic....what is your point?

 

[M14 Shooter]

You are wrong. The damage is not caused by the caliber, it is caused by the velocity. At almost 3,000 fps a .223 round fired from an AR-15 is going to do much more damage than the same round fired from a rifle at a little over 1,000 fps.

And yet, 5.56x45 isn't powerful enough to take a deer, so we can't hunt with an AR.
Laughing at you in 7.62x39
And x51
And x63

 

[2aguy]

Comparing the AR with other Legal Firearms​

well, let's see.. ok..
This guy used his AR to kill his ex-coworkers. Ok, I can say with 100% certainty, when

Comparing the AR with other Legal Firearms...​

This guy chose an ASSAULT RIFLE. So yeah, there you go.

Gunman livestreamed mass shooting at Louisville bank that left 5 dead and 8 injured, police say​

https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/10/us/louisville-ketucky-incident/index.html

He didn't choose an "Assault rifle," he didn't even choose a military rifle.....he looks to have used an AR-15, a civilian and police rifle.....

The FOIA request itself was prompted from a Nov. 2017 article in The Atlantic in which the magazine, unsurprisingly to anyone familiar with its anti-gun bent, attempted to bolster a claim that “these rifles were meant for the military, not civilians.”

“Colt sent a pilot model rifle (serial no. GX4968) to the BATF for civilian sale approval on Oct. 23, 1963. It was approved on Dec. 10, 1963, and sales of the ‘Model R6000 Colt AR-15 SP1 Sporter Rifle’ began on Jan 2, 1964,” one critic of the article contended. “The M16 wasn’t issued to infantry units until 1965 (as the XM16E1), wasn’t standardized as the M16A1 until 1967, and didn’t officially replace the M14 until 1969.”

https://www.ammoland.com/2021/12/original-atf-ar-15-classification-refutes-claim-that-rifle-not-meant-for-civilians/#axzz7DtllKxCK
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[Bell Huey]

Tell me, your 20 years experience wouldn't have involved an AK-25 would it, comrade?

W

Tell me, your 20 years experience wouldn't have involved an AK-25 would it, comrade?

sounds like you are a gamer. No wonder your knowledge on the topic is low.

 

[Bell Huey]

He didn't choose an "Assault rifle," he didn't even choose a military rifle.....he looks to have used an AR-15, a civilian and police rifle.....

The FOIA request itself was prompted from a Nov. 2017 article in The Atlantic in which the magazine, unsurprisingly to anyone familiar with its anti-gun bent, attempted to bolster a claim that “these rifles were meant for the military, not civilians.”

https://www.ammoland.com/2021/12/original-atf-ar-15-classification-refutes-claim-that-rifle-not-meant-for-civilians/#axzz7DtllKxCK
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I love that link and the original letter.

 

[Flash]

"All bearable arms". No.
What will your excuse be when the "weapon of choice" moves AKs or AR10s?
Or shotguns?

"All bearable arms".
Your question proceeds from a false premise, and is thus meaningless.

I tried to get that little turd to tell me what was banned in the 1994 AWB that would result in a reduction in crime and he chickenshitted out because he had nothing.

He ain't worth shit.

 

[2aguy]

You do hate the children. I see it.

Posts the idiot supporting the democrat party, the abortion party....

 

[Bell Huey]

The AR was designed with no intention of looking "Pretty". It is 100% functional to kill lots of people lots of times.

Yeah, the Armalite Rifle 15 certainly was.

The Colt AR 15 Sporter SP1 was not. Or else it wouldn’t have been certified as not a machine gun by the government.

What else ya got?

 

[M14 Shooter]

I tried to get that little turd to tell me what was banned in the 1994 AWB that would result in a reduction in crime and he chickenshitted out because he had nothing.
He ain't worth shit.

Just another useful idiot, doing what his masters tell him to do, repeating what his masters tell him to say.

the (D)ishonest prey upon the emotions of the ignorant - because they know it works.