Communism Is Here! GOVT GONE TOO FAR

[SweetTea]

Do you suppose part of the labor shortage might be due to the fact over 700,000 died from Covid? Yea, I know there are some out there that just don't want to work but you lost a hell of a lot of worker's in the past year and a half.

No, not based on the average age of those that have died and the fact that there are so many job openings. In many cases, we are paying people more to stay home than to work. It is that simple.

 

[Elton]

what does this have to do with communism?

I think it's the authoritarian nature of the directive.

 

[Elton]

Communism isn't here.

This isn't communism.

Good gawd, how can people remain so ignorant? Is the alternate universe THAT isolated?

But it is authoritarian. Is it not?

 

[Elton]

They are so completely ignorant on this topic that I have to wonder if they just use the word as some kind of epithet, not using it literally.

What I don't understand is that all the information and definitions they need are right at their fingertips. Literally. Still, they refuse to learn.

I think fascist, communist, are merely shorthand for authoritarian. I see so little difference between the two that that seems to make the most sense.

 

[Doc7505]

Communism isn't just about a form of government, it is about the journey there. Commies like you who support the communist trajectory of our society are an essential part of communism. Communism is a philosophical, social, political, and economic ideology and movement whose goal is the establishment of a communist society, and that is EXACTLY what you and the article in the opening post are about. Without you and what that article is about, communism cannot flourish.

They continue to say that this time they have the right method for Communism to be successful forgetting their latest failure in Venezuela.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

I think it's the authoritarian nature of the directive.

Authoritarianism is hardly limited to communism

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

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Communism Is Reborn with a New Name in America​

Communism Is Reborn with a New Name in America

Do some people really think that the impeachment, the corona-gulag, and the pogroms all occurred in America one after another in a completely random pattern of events? Why did pre-planned and synchronized riots and looting suddenly arise? &nb...

www.americanthinker.com

Do some people really think that the impeachment, the corona-gulag, and the pogroms all occurred in America one after another in a completely random pattern of events?
Why did pre-planned and synchronized riots and looting suddenly arise? Because the adventure with the coronavirus hysteria failed.
Why did the coronavirus hysteria suddenly lead to a corona-gulag being created? Because the impeachment failed.
Why did impeachment suddenly arise? Because "Russiagate" (or, rather, Obamagate) failed.
Why did "Russiagate" arise? Because leftism was defeated in the 2016 elections.
~Snip~
In May 2020, the Fifth Communist International was established. This new International is called Progressive International. At the helm of it is a man well known in America: Bolshevik Bernie Sanders.
The Fifth International is the response by the left to Trump. It is another attempt to unite the leftist, anti-American forces. This is a materialization of the hatred of the Democrats for Trump, the quintessence of the hatred of the Democrats for the Republicans, who dared to deprive the Democrats of their black slaves. The name of this International — Progressive — should not confuse anyone. It has nothing to do with the progress of humanity; rather, it is about progressive taxation (which, as it's known, was one of the requirements of the Communist Manifesto of Karl Marx).

Comment:
It's easy to make the claim that it's lies and demagoguery. It's another to logically discuss and explain the facts above...

Conservatives are liars and demagogues – they thrive in chaos.

Threads such as this are proof of that.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

LOL...not one mention of the labor shortage huh? Not one link as to why their is a labor shortage? Does labor create supply? Man you guys are dumber than a box of rocks.

Such is the willfully ignorant right.

 

[Mac1958]

But it is authoritarian. Is it not?

In this individual instance, that's a fair argument.

But calling it "communism", or trying to, is absurd.

 

[Dadoalex]

You guy’s are whistling past the graveyard. Its over. We aren’t a free people and haven’t been for a long time.

People Don’t Understand How Unfree We Already Are​

The biggest and most widespread blind spot among those who oppose totalitarian control by the powerful is the assumption that it has not already been achieved.

We’ve been so busy watching out for the next overtly totalitarian dictatorship that wants to put the jackboot on our necks we never noticed the covert totalitarians sliding the shackles around our minds.

Everyone thinks about the abusers who beat their spouses, but not the abusers who dominate their spouses’ minds with psychological manipulation.

Everyone thinks about psychopathic killers prowling the streets, but not the psychopathic killers who rule our world via mass-scale manipulation.

Conspiracy analysts warn that the government is trying to give everyone a social credit score to force us all to comply with the agendas of the powerful, in nations where mass-scale narrative management through the media and online algorithms already manipulates everyone into complying with the agendas of the powerful.

People assume that they aren’t already behaving exactly how the powerful want them to behave within a civilization whose political, monetary and economic systems are already completely under the control of the powerful.

People think they are free just because they can go and buy whatever they want in an economy rigged for the powerful using money rigged for the powerful, because they can say whatever they want on internet platforms whose algorithms are manipulated by the powerful, because they can vote for a politician who only got on the ballot by being owned by the powerful.

Nope.
Just pointing out your hypocrisy.

 

[Dadoalex]

Why do you embrace corporate fascism?

Me?
Corporations HATE what you people are doing but they had no tool in the shed to stop you
THAT IS until Biden issued the mandate.
Now they have the legal tool needed to keep their workplaces safe and operational.

So why do you hate America?
YOUR actions damage the American economy
YOUR actions are causing Americans to die.
So, again, why do you people hate America?

 

[SweetTea]

Such is the willfully ignorant right.

You don't think supply has anything to do with labor?

 

[SweetTea]

No, not based on the average age of those that have died and the fact that there are so many job openings. In many cases, we are paying people more to stay home than to work. It is that simple.

Just to follow up on this, Child tax credits even for those that don't even pay taxes(welfare), increased SNAP payments, etc. does nothing but keep people home. There are literally millions not working who can work. COVID deaths among those of working age is around 160k. It is merely a drop in the bucket.

 

[Elton]

Authoritarianism is hardly limited to communism

I agree. To be honest the more I read on the subject the less the accepted definitions seem to make sense. Authoritarian governments are fascist, communist, and to a lesser extent, socialist. I think the spectrum is authoritarian vs non authoritarian. The names don't matter.

 

[Elton]

In this individual instance, that's a fair argument.

But calling it "communism", or trying to, is absurd.

Why?

 

[Elton]

Conservatives are liars and demagogues – they thrive in chaos.

Threads such as this are proof of that.

But it is the liberals who have overwhelmingly been guilty of the things you say.

 

[Mac1958]

Why?

Because that's not communism.

You know what communism is, right?

 

[FA_Q2]

I think fascist, communist, are merely shorthand for authoritarian. I see so little difference between the two that that seems to make the most sense.

Because you are focusing on the destination with no regard to the road.

The left and the right have different methods of getting to authoritarianism, for the right one of those methods happens to be fascism. To see one and ignore the other, as many do on this forum, is to fail to realize that your 'side' has the same potential extreme evil if pursued to an extreme end or abused by the wrong people.

The right likes to believe that it is immune from the evil big government control tendency. They are not.

 

[FA_Q2]

Why?

Because it is a private company making a private decision about how they will charge for a private product, health insurance.

Communism requires public ownership of the means of production. Where is the public ownership in this example?

Hell, where is the public AT ALL in this example? The OP is an example of pure capitalism, everything involved is private people entering into voluntary agreements.

 

[Elton]

Because you are focusing on the destination with no regard to the road.

The left and the right have different methods of getting to authoritarianism, for the right one of those methods happens to be fascism. To see one and ignore the other, as many do on this forum, is to fail to realize that your 'side' has the same potential extreme evil if pursued to an extreme end or abused by the wrong people.

The right likes to believe that it is immune from the evil big government control tendency. They are not.

I don't think the road matters. The only thing that matters is how a government treats it's citizens. I see very little differences at all between the so called left and right when you talk about totalitarian dictatorships.