"Common sense gun control"

[Cellblock2429]

So, you can't buy an unregulated machine gun since 1934 and this is pissing you off? Did it keep your dad or your granddad, or your great granddad up at night bitching about it, or did they think Al Capone, Machinegun Kelly and the mobsters of the roaring 20s did not need machine guns? Maybe you want to jump in a "wayback" machine and go tell the mob back then they were messing it up for everybody.
Big deal. So you can't ride around with a machine gun mounted on your jeep, as if you were in a third world country. Get over it.

/——/ Gun grabbing libtards always use extreme examples to justify their agenda. Oh, didn’t your boy just hand over jeeps with mounted machine guns to the Taliban?

 

[White 6]

/——/ Gun grabbing libtards always use extreme examples to justify their agenda. Oh, didn’t your boy just hand over jeeps with mounted machine guns to the Taliban?

I'm not grabbing jack, I just don't support your all the guns for all without regulation of any kind whatsoever, as it is not what the founding fathers intended, and they certainly did not envision the world in which we live. I had a dumbass neighbor empty a full magazine in the air, next door when he was drunk. I didn't call the cops. I asked him what went through his mine when he got this dumbass idea, and told him this was one dumbass mistake he won't have to make again anytime soon. When the cop came because somebody else call, I covered saying we were out because we heard it to and to let us know if the find the asshole.
Same guy called me, somebody was inside the empty house across the street, wanted me to back him up. We went looking the place over, twice I had to caution him about his weapons management as he had me in the lead and could not quit waving it around and crossing his tube across my back, on the move in the dark. Nothing found but a raccoon on the fence. We got back to his house, he asked me to unload it for him, as there was a round in the chamber and he didn't trust himself to clear the weapon without shooting something. Good Grief!
Some people are too stupid to be trusted with hand guns, much less full automatic weapons and I say that as somebody that has run every kind of range you can think of for half my life. I hope you don't get your way. A lot of people that want it, aren't fit to have it. Just sayin..........

 

[woodwork201]

I didn't suggest it. I personally do not care what modification they make or if they have to go to jail and lose everything, for their stupidity. Like I said, mine are all legal and I am not in the market for illegal modifications. At my age, short barrels do not interest me, as they are really on good for clearing rooms where confinement of swing is a problem. I am not going to kick in doors and clear rooms anymore. I am more of a distance guy.

Well, Elmer, that is exactly why we will likely lose our gun rights one day what's left of my lifetime - and I'm old. Too many people like you who pretend to support gun rights but you're OK with whatever they do as long as it doesn't interfere with what you like to do with your guns.

and when they came for me, there was no one left to call...

 

[woodwork201]

No. Why?

Well, the Supreme Court once defended it. And you support the Supreme Court. I was just wondering if that was an absolute support or a selective support.

I support them, too, but it's a very selective support. Their opinions make for some interesting reading and are indicative of the thoughts of learned men (and women). They are not, though, Gods. Their opinions are nothing but opinions. That every case is not 9-0 proves that learned people can have differing opinions. Something becomes, in the opinion of the court, constitutional simply based on which presidents appointed whom to the courts.

 

[White 6]

Well, Elmer, that is exactly why we will likely lose our gun rights one day what's left of my lifetime - and I'm old. Too many people like you who pretend to support gun rights but you're OK with whatever they do as long as it doesn't interfere with what you like to do with your guns.

and when they came for me, there was no one left to call...

Go to sleep grand paw. Get yourself a class III ticket if you want class III hardware or move to a 3rd world country. Don't try to create on here.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

So, you can't buy an unregulated machine gun since 1934 and this is pissing you off? Did it keep your dad or your granddad, or your great granddad up at night bitching about it, or did they think Al Capone, Machinegun Kelly and the mobsters of the roaring 20s did not need machine guns? Maybe you want to jump in a "wayback" machine and go tell the mob back then they were messing it up for everybody.
Big deal. So you can't ride around with a machine gun mounted on your jeep, as if you were in a third world country. Get over it.

We have the lovely 18th Amendment to thank for all that gun violence. Black markets tend to get that way.

Make something illegal that people want and you produce all sorts of evil monsters ready to kill anyone who gets in their way.

The 18th Amendment followed by the 1934 NFA are two classic examples of government being both the cause of, and the solution to all of life's problems.

 

[White 6]

We have the lovely 18th Amendment to thank for all that gun violence. Black markets tend to get that way.

Make something illegal that people want and you produce all sorts of evil monsters ready to kill anyone who gets in their way.

The 18th Amendment followed by the 1934 NFA are two classic examples of government being both the cause of, and the solution to all of life's problems.

Prohibition was indeed stupid, just like Federal laws on marijuana. Full auto machine guns have no place in a stable, yet crowed society and indeed should be regulated. Regulation is just another tool, but does not infringe on legitimate uses of personal weapons by the vast, the vast majority of Americans. Don't expect me to cry, that you can't mount an M-60 on your pickup truck, on the streets.

 

[woodwork201]

Prohibition was indeed stupid, just like Federal laws on marijuana. Full auto machine guns have no place in a stable, yet crowed society and indeed should be regulated. Regulation is just another tool, but does not infringe on legitimate uses of personal weapons by the vast, the vast majority of Americans. Don't expect me to cry, that you can't mount an M-60 on your pickup truck, on the streets.

There has been no communist country in the history of communist countries where the people didn't cry out for the government to take their guns away for their own protection and that did not later wish they had their guns because it was their government they ended up fighting.

 

[White 6]

There has been no communist country in the history of communist countries where the people didn't cry out for the government to take their guns away for their own protection and that did not later wish they had their guns because it was their government they ended up fighting.

Who cares? You said yourself communist countries. That lets us out. Don't worry you can't carry machine guns on the streets. You need to worry more about declarations of emergency after natural disaster, such as Katrina, where the state went into nieghborhoods, subdivisions, even gated Mcmansion communities, stripping homeowners of normal everyday handguns, rifles and shotguns, using Bush's Federally actvated NG as backup for the state police, and local police taking away their weapons. Reading of the confiscation is easy to look up. Try finding where they ever gave them back.

 

[justinacolmena]

They cannot demonstrate the necessity for or efficacy of the extra hurdles a law-abiding citizen must jump thru to buy the 2nd rifle, but they will PROMISE you if we don't have those additional restrictions, blood will run in the streets.

Hammer-and-sickle red commie police unions, Proud Boys, Three-Percenters, Oath Keepers, and Thin-Blue-Line Flaggers are all on a blood-oath gun control vendetta of labor union solidarity to keep guns out of the hands of rival gang members.

 

[woodwork201]

Who cares? You said yourself communist countries. That lets us out. Don't worry you can't carry machine guns on the streets. You need to worry more about declarations of emergency after natural disaster, such as Katrina, where the state went into nieghborhoods, subdivisions, even gated Mcmansion communities, stripping homeowners of normal everyday handguns, rifles and shotguns, using Bush's Federally actvated NG as backup for the state police, and local police taking away their weapons. Reading of the confiscation is easy to look up. Try finding where they ever gave them back.

Look at 3.5 trillion advertised, closer to double that in reality, socialst, green new deal bills in Congress. We're two elections from unrestrained socialism. If the Democrats use fake mail-in ballots to win the next two elections, if they get a majority in the Senate, we'll be on the track to the same thing as Venezuela and Australia. And people like you will talk about how great things are in the USSA for a decade or two. And then, when there's no toilet paper except for the rich; no milk, no food, you'll be leading the cry to get our guns back - and not just our hunting guns.

 

[White 6]

Look at 3.5 trillion advertised, closer to double that in reality, socialst, green new deal bills in Congress. We're two elections from unrestrained socialism. If the Democrats use fake mail-in ballots to win the next two elections, if they get a majority in the Senate, we'll be on the track to the same thing as Venezuela and Australia. And people like you will talk about how great things are in the USSA for a decade or two. And then, when there's no toilet paper except for the rich; no milk, no food, you'll be leading the cry to get our guns back - and not just our hunting guns.

If you can't get anywhere on the thread subject, you jump ship to derail the thread to some other topic? If that is your plan, why respond to me, speaking on topic?

 

[woodwork201]

If you can't get anywhere on the thread subject, you jump ship to derail the thread to some other topic? If that is your plan, why respond to me, speaking on topic?

I related it back to the thread. You, along with the Communists and Marxists in the United States, want more gun control. You tried to imply that the history of communism and gun control in communist countries doesn't apply here. But when we become a communist country then the history of communist countries, including their historical gun control agendas, including the history of citizens of those countries either fighting with rakes and shovels for their freedom, or being unable to fight at all for their freedom, will be important to the United States.

You just might be stupid enough to believe that gun control and AR-15 bans are about public safety but I don't think you are; you tell me. If you're not that stupid then you, along with the Communists in Congress and behind the scenes in the United States, know that gun control is not at all about reducing crime or public safety. It's wholly about government safety and creating a disarmed population in order to further their leftist agenda in safety.

By the way, Federal law and many states now have laws that prevent Katrina-style confiscations. Of course all of that was unnecessary because the Constitution already forbade Katrina-style confiscations - even before Katrina. I do not at all fear losing my guns in a Katrina-style confiscation. On the other hand, the confiscators, should it ever again come to that, should fear trying to get my guns.

 

[2aguy]

I'm not grabbing jack, I just don't support your all the guns for all without regulation of any kind whatsoever, as it is not what the founding fathers intended, and they certainly did not envision the world in which we live. I had a dumbass neighbor empty a full magazine in the air, next door when he was drunk. I didn't call the cops. I asked him what went through his mine when he got this dumbass idea, and told him this was one dumbass mistake he won't have to make again anytime soon. When the cop came because somebody else call, I covered saying we were out because we heard it to and to let us know if the find the asshole.
Same guy called me, somebody was inside the empty house across the street, wanted me to back him up. We went looking the place over, twice I had to caution him about his weapons management as he had me in the lead and could not quit waving it around and crossing his tube across my back, on the move in the dark. Nothing found but a raccoon on the fence. We got back to his house, he asked me to unload it for him, as there was a round in the chamber and he didn't trust himself to clear the weapon without shooting something. Good Grief!
Some people are too stupid to be trusted with hand guns, much less full automatic weapons and I say that as somebody that has run every kind of range you can think of for half my life. I hope you don't get your way. A lot of people that want it, aren't fit to have it. Just sayin..........

And yet you went out with that neighbor and covered for him........you should be disarmed as well.........

How about that......just like a gun grabber I remove your Right to Keep and bear arms...

 

[White 6]

I related it back to the thread. You, along with the Communists and Marxists in the United States, want more gun control. You tried to imply that the history of communism and gun control in communist countries doesn't apply here. But when we become a communist country then the history of communist countries, including their historical gun control agendas, including the history of citizens of those countries either fighting with rakes and shovels for their freedom, or being unable to fight at all for their freedom, will be important to the United States.

You just might be stupid enough to believe that gun control and AR-15 bans are about public safety but I don't think you are; you tell me. If you're not that stupid then you, along with the Communists in Congress and behind the scenes in the United States, know that gun control is not at all about reducing crime or public safety. It's wholly about government safety and creating a disarmed population in order to further their leftist agenda in safety.

By the way, Federal law and many states now have laws that prevent Katrina-style confiscations. Of course all of that was unnecessary because the Constitution already forbade Katrina-style confiscations - even before Katrina. I do not at all fear losing my guns in a Katrina-style confiscation. On the other hand, the confiscators, should it ever again come to that, should fear trying to get my guns.

Out of 3 paragraphs, the 3rd is the only one I view as realistic in this country, but that could be because I do not live in an area that has ever had a Katrina style emergency. At my age, I agree with last sentence 100%, as I have less to lose at my age. I suspect younger people might be more compliant, as they were after Katrina.

 

[White 6]

And yet you went out with that neighbor and covered for him........you should be disarmed as well.........

How about that......just like a gun grabber I remove your Right to Keep and bear arms...

Not likely to happen, as have conducted my life in a conservative manner ever since early military, days, never in trouble, never a rebel rouser, often volunteering to help fellow Americans in a pinch going back to my teen years sometimes at risk to myself, highly trained and qualified, a known quantity to military, and security/intel agencies.

 

[woodwork201]

I'm not grabbing jack, I just don't support your all the guns for all without regulation of any kind whatsoever, as it is not what the founding fathers intended, and they certainly did not envision the world in which we live. I had a dumbass neighbor empty a full magazine in the air, next door when he was drunk. I didn't call the cops. I asked him what went through his mine when he got this dumbass idea, and told him this was one dumbass mistake he won't have to make again anytime soon. When the cop came because somebody else call, I covered saying we were out because we heard it to and to let us know if the find the asshole.
Same guy called me, somebody was inside the empty house across the street, wanted me to back him up. We went looking the place over, twice I had to caution him about his weapons management as he had me in the lead and could not quit waving it around and crossing his tube across my back, on the move in the dark. Nothing found but a raccoon on the fence. We got back to his house, he asked me to unload it for him, as there was a round in the chamber and he didn't trust himself to clear the weapon without shooting something. Good Grief!
Some people are too stupid to be trusted with hand guns, much less full automatic weapons and I say that as somebody that has run every kind of range you can think of for half my life. I hope you don't get your way. A lot of people that want it, aren't fit to have it. Just sayin..........

And yet you went out with that neighbor and covered for him........you should be disarmed as well.........

How about that......just like a gun grabber I remove your Right to Keep and bear arms...

2aguy, you make a great point and I completely missed it when I read white6's confession.

white6 has openly confessed to committing a felony by intentionally lying to the police engaged in the investigation of a crime. That's lying to the police and obstruction of justice. Depending on his state, that could be up to 15 years in prison for lying and another 10 for obstruction. By the very laws he supports, he no longer has the right to keep and bear arms. All that's left is to report his crime to the FBI and watch it happen. But, since I don't believe a word he said, I won't report it. I wonder if he wants to insist that it's true that he committed a felony.

 

[woodwork201]

Not likely to happen, as have conducted my life in a conservative manner ever since early military, days, never in trouble, never a rebel rouser, often volunteering to help fellow Americans in a pinch going back to my teen years sometimes at risk to myself, highly trained and qualified, a known quantity to military, and security/intel agencies.

Well, that's a fucking lie, isn't it? You openly admitted to committing multiple felonies. Do the military, security, and intel agencies know you're a felon?

 

[2aguy]

2aguy, you make a great point and I completely missed it when I read white6's confession.

white6 has openly confessed to committing a felony by intentionally lying to the police engaged in the investigation of a crime. That's lying to the police and obstruction of justice. Depending on his state, that could be up to 15 years in prison for lying and another 10 for obstruction. By the very laws he supports, he no longer has the right to keep and bear arms. All that's left is to report his crime to the FBI and watch it happen. But, since I don't believe a word he said, I won't report it. I wonder if he wants to insist that it's true that he committed a felony.

Yep.....and he sits in judgement of other gun owners who have done nothing close to what he did...

 

[woodwork201]

Out of 3 paragraphs, the 3rd is the only one I view as realistic in this country, but that could be because I do not live in an area that has ever had a Katrina style emergency. At my age, I agree with last sentence 100%, as I have less to lose at my age. I suspect younger people might be more compliant, as they were after Katrina.

So you don't believe what I said about AR-15 bans not being for public safety? You think Biden, and the Mayor of Chicago, and all other gun controllers care about public safety? Then why aren't they enforcing the gun laws we have? Why are they letting criminals who used guns in their crimes, who are forbidden from possessing guns, back out on the streets, dropping charges or giving very light sentences, and no bail before trial?

Taking my AR-15 does not do a thing to save a baby in Chicago or Gary, Indiana. Harsh prison sentences, in prisons with harsh conditions, would go very far to reduce the number of dead babies in Chicago. Biden, Mayor Lightfoot, and all the gun controllers, including you, don't give a shit about public safety and gun control; you only want to disarm those who represent a potential threat to tyrannical, socialist, government.