Vigilante
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From my understanding there was basically nothing in the land of Israel in 1948, one of the reasons the Jews were given it, it was worthless!.... I imagine that the Kurds will never get their own country as Turkey won't allow it, and being a member of NATO, even now completely overrun with muslim's, it will be held by other NATO members as entitled.That seems like Jewish lies to be honest. Since the time of Roman rule, the area has been known as Palestine, so this has been for two thousand years. Just because the people who live there, the Palestinians, weren't an official state, doesn't mean they aren't a nation or people. Kurds don't have a country, but they are still Kurds.Arab and Muslim are two separate things. This is a ridiculous picture. Also, Palestinians are from Palestine, not from Iran, Sudan,Turkey, Saudi Arabia etc. So it doesn't matter that those countries exist, Palestine still doesn't have a state and that is wrong. Every people have a right to self determination .By supporting the theft of Arab land and water in the Occupied Territories US evangelicals support the racist extremists in Israeli politics.“how conservative evangelical support for Israel complicates U.S. foreign policy,” a
"Israeli spin-doctors until now have succeeded in linking the word 'extremist' exclusively with Arabs who protest Israel's takeover of their land, rather than with the ultra-orthodox Jews who claim God gave them title to the land 3,000 years ago.
WRMEA Right-Wing Extremists Endanger Israel and the Jews
How many times must that fallacy be proven wrong?
I can successfully argue with you that there never was a Palestine state, from 5 years ago...
Palestinians are in truth the descendants of people that Syria did not want. There is no such nationality "Palestinian." So much of what you read here about the situation over there are lies.
"The original people who Arafat put into the camps and refused to let them leave when Israel became a state, are the children and grandchildren of Lebanese, Syrians, and Jordanians. There has never been a people known as "Palestinians" as people think of, for instance, the Native Americans.
When Rome invaded Israel, it renamed the area Palestine in an effort to remove any Jewish connotations from the name. Everyone who lived there at the time were "Palestinians", Jews and Arabs alike.
There were very few people there at all then, and even until Israel regained its independence in 1948 there were very few people there. More Jews than Arabs, and the area was basically a wasteland. More roaming Bedouins than anything else there, really. These were not muslims until recently.
The land was originally called Canaan, long ago before the Hebrews came. When the Hebrews came in, they renamed the land Israel. There was nothing "Palestinian" there whatsoever. There was only Canaanite.
Then came all the different invasions of the land, by the Romans, the Assyrians, the Babylonians, the Syrians, the Lebanese, the Jordanians, the British, etc.
During the last 7 years, since Arafat began the latest intifada (and it is being carried on even though he is dead now), Arafat moved Arabs in from all over the area, even from outside Israel, and told them "Now you are Palestinians."
There is footage of him and his top lieutenant talking about how there is no such thing as a Palestinian people, and never has been. He said that if he were given two generations, that he could implement the destruction of Israel by making the world believe that there is a native people who were there first called "Palestinians" - and indeed, during this last intifada, the media was inundated with stories about these Lebanese, Syrian, and Jordanian Arabs who were being kept in the camps BY ARAFAT, and how they were displaced by Israel and left there to die by Israel. This was pure media manipulation, and it has been very successful.
Is this wrong? Do you have a different story?