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BOHICA Obama
How has it been impeded? I really am curious about this. One thing that has been very obvious is trump really is clueless about protocol and how the government actually works. I honestly don't think he's capable of doing that sort of thing. There is certainly no evidence to support it that i know of, and believe me I have looked!
I think Trump's attempted subversion of Comey, early on, for one, then his subsequent firing by Trump. I don't think he's "clueless" so much as utterly arrogant and above the law - the details don't apply to him so he can't be bothered. Look at how he handled ethics issues - constantly proclaiming it didn't apply to him. I can't get a good read on him because he reflexively lies and then contradicts himself.
"Subversion"? I don't see evidence supporting that. I see comey interpreting a conversation one way of many ways. Trumps firing of comey doesn't impede any investigations at all. At no time did trump tell comey, or anyone for that matter, to do anything about any of the investigations. That much was made clear yesterday. I think trump actually does have a concern for ethical behavior. Everyone I have ever talked to who has had dealings with him, has given a positive review of that interaction. One of my flying buddies is a casino builder and built trumps casino in Vegas and while he doesn't like trump on a personal level he does say that he was always paid on time (rare in that world) and whenever my buddy had an issue, trump dealt with it very quickly (also a rarity in that world).
I don't agree at all. When someone in a position of power over someone else makes a "suggestion" or expresses a "hope" in a room cleared of all other people - it's tantamount to a command, especially if that person's job has been questioned (as in keeping the job) - I see no other way to construe that.
And I do recall hearing at least one senator ask if anyone had ever been charged with a crime for hoping about an outcome to which comey said no. I also heard another senator ask if after that initial ask, there had ever been a follow up and once again the answer from comey was no. Thus, in my mind it seems that trump was asking for comey to go lightly on flynn as flynn had been punished enough in trumps mind.
Put another way, what he asked of comey was far less than what comey did for hillary when he invented "intent" as a requirement for her to be charged with a felony which is a complete farce. There are at least two people sitting in Federal Prison right now for doing far less than she did and they too had no "intent" to do harm, but they broke an immutable law, that he gave her a pass on.
Technically speaking - a lawyer could argue that...but you can't deny that when everyone else is told to leave, and Trump expresses this "hope" the optics look bad and it certainly puts Comey in a hell of an awkward position concerning his job given prior remarks regarding whether he wants to keep it (rather than looking at it in isolation it should be seen as part of a pattern). Taken all together it looks very bad. And bringing HIllary up kind of makes the point....Lynch, quite inappropriately, asked Comey to effectively downgrade the investigation into a "probe" ostensably to make it look better for Hillary during the election - again, not strictly "illegal" but it sure doesn't look very good.
I have a feeling that those who are giving a pass on Trump would not give the same pass to Clinton.
You've never had a one on one with your boss? Really? I have them every week. Do you honestly believe that any other president of the United States other than Trump has never had one on one conversations with the various people who serve at their pleasure? You honestly think that there is always at least one other person in the room? Would you like to buy a bridge?