Colorado, extreme weather event in progress

[bripat9643]

"This is not unprecedented," Doesken said. "It is simply not common."

The floods' impact, though still unclear, was devastating.

Honestly...debating around a heavy rainfall and flood event.

What's the point?

THe cultist morons need every "extreme weather event" to be proof of global warming, so they try to spin the latest ones into the worst that ever happened.

 

[bripat9643]

The Big Thompson Canyon flood caused more deaths because of the morphology of the canyon and the crowded campgrounds. The present extreme weather event covers a much larger area, and will result in a far greater amount of property and infrastructure damage. The present storm is also of far greater duration in time.

Sorry, Chicken Little, but you only think it covers a much larger area. The difference between the two storms is that the rain that caused the Big Thompson flood fell in the mountains 50 miles West of Denver. Except for Estes Park, the area is mostly unpopulated. The current storm is dropping rain in Denver and it's surrounding suburbs. Therefor, there are a lot more reporters in the area and a lot more places for them to look at. It's also not clear which storm has caused the most property damage.

As stated before, you people really need to do some research before posting drivel.

You should follow your own advice. Your claims are based on nothing but pure speculation.

Keep in mind that 12-14 inches of rain caused the Big Thompson flood. Only 4-8 inches have fallen in the last couple of days in the Denver Area. One thing we know for certain is that if the Big Thompson flood had occurred today, people like you would be squawking that it was an "extreme weather event" cause by Goebbels Warming.

Does proving that you are extremely stupid give you a thrill, Pattycake?

Flood-weary Colorado awaits more rain; 172 people unaccounted for - CNN.com

Boulder, Colorado (CNN) -- As furious waters flow through flood-devastated northern Colorado, fears and tales of devastation grow.

At least four people have been killed and 172 are unaccounted for, officials say.

The nightmare is far from over as the state awaits more rainfall Saturday, threatening to send swollen rivers gushing through streets choked with debris. The rain is expected to come down heavy Sunday.

It will not be as much as the 15 inches dumped in some spots this week, but it could cause more flooding in areas where water has already receded, forecasters warned.

https://twitter.com/SeverePlains/status/378590035953459200/photo/1

The level of the Big Thompson river has surpassed the level of the 1976 flood.

The accompanying weather map doesn't support your claim. It shows the rain in the area all the reporters are flocking to was only in the 4-6 inch range.

Keep in mind that they didn't have weather radar in 1976. People had to actually go out and measure the rain. Also, your map shows rain over a 72 hour period. 12 inches of rain fell in 4 hours in the Big Thompson canyon.

You're comparing apples and oranges.

Your hysteria mongering is nothing but warmist propaganda, of course.

 

[bripat9643]

It's hilly in Colorado. Downright mountainous. I remember seeing signs posted along roadways because it doesn't take but a moment for a lazy stream to turn into a raging wall of water.

We have the same sort of mountian country in Oregon. A major thunderstorm can turn a lazy creek into a raging river in a matter of an hour. In 1903, one such storm killed about 250 people in a little town called Heppner. However, unlike the Big Thompson Canyon flood of 1976, this storm is not localized. It is causing flooding over nearly half the length of the east front in Colorado, as well as in New Mexico and Kansas.

Hundreds evacuated amid N.M. flooding - CNN.com

Heavy rains cause flooding in Kansas | fox4kc.com

Yeah, we've never had heavy rains over a wide area before. It's unprecedented!

These rains come nowhere near the 12 inches that fell in 4 hours in the Big Thompson canyon. There's nothing EXTREME about 4-6 inches in 72 hours. I've seen 4 inches of rain in one hour in Florida.

 

[skookerasbil]

Of course, we need to bring a wee bit of perspective in here........extreme weather has been happening since the beginning of recorded history and long, long before that. The climate people just tend to get a little angst every time there is a storm. Its simply more bomb throwing stuff that is nothing more than folklore.


But don't take my word for it.......check out the history of freakish weather going back hundreds of years here >>>>> droughts......floods.......blizzards........hurricanes........you name it. This stuff is nothing new >>>>>>


Chronology of Extreme Weather

 

[skookerasbil]

 

[westwall]

4" to 11" of rain in Colorado around Boulder. 12 dams overtopped. Communties cut off. More rain on the way.

Colorado flood: Front Range floodwaters kill three, drench homes - The Denver Post

Big ******* deal.

It's happened many, many times before and has nothing to do with climate change. Here you go, 1862 nearly the entire Central Valley of California was an inland lake. Imagine that today....


"The Great Flood of 1862 or Noachian Deluge was the largest flood in the recorded history of Oregon, Nevada and California, occurring from December 1861 to January 1862. It was preceded by weeks of continuous rains (or snows in the very high elevations) that began in Oregon in November 1861 and continued into January 1862. This was followed by a record amount of rain from January 9th-12th, and contributed to a flood which extended from the Columbia River southward in western Oregon and through California to San Diego, and extended as far inland as Idaho in Washington Territory, Nevada and Utah in Utah Territory and Arizona in western New Mexico Territory.

It was climaxed by a warmer, more intense storm with much more rain that was made more serious by the earlier large accumulation of snow, now melted by the rain in the lower elevations of the mountains. Throughout the affected area, all the streams and rivers rose to great heights, flooded the valleys, inundated or swept away towns, mills, dams, flumes, houses, fences, and domestic animals, and ruined fields. An early estimate of property damage was $10,000,000.[1] However, later it was estimated that approximately one-quarter of the taxable real estate in the state of California was destroyed in the flood. Dependent on property taxes, the State of California went bankrupt. The governor, state legislature, and state employees were not paid for a year and a half.[2] 200,000 cattle drowned, and the state's economy shifted from ranching to farming.[3]"


Great Flood of 1862 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Abraham3]

The idiots that assume a 0.5deg change in mean temp. has skewed these occurences --- have never sat at a roulette wheel in Lake Tahoe for hours. AND probably don't understand statistical events very well. AND have no knowledge of the MULTITUDE of NECCESSARY conditions for weather to occur..

Pretty much primitive crystal-worshipping losers....

The temperature increase is more like 0.7 - 0.9C (1.3 - 1.6F) and are you actually trying to say that it would have NO effect?

And WTF does Lake Tahoe have to do with squat? Is that how you've learned your statistics? Did you enjoy the free liquor all the while?

And, amazingly, despite the fact that it DOES require a multitude of different conditions, weather TAKES PLACE ON A FREAKING CONTINUOUS BASIS.

 

[Old Rocks]

4" to 11" of rain in Colorado around Boulder. 12 dams overtopped. Communties cut off. More rain on the way.

Colorado flood: Front Range floodwaters kill three, drench homes - The Denver Post

Big ******* deal.

It's happened many, many times before and has nothing to do with climate change. Here you go, 1862 nearly the entire Central Valley of California was an inland lake. Imagine that today....


"The Great Flood of 1862 or Noachian Deluge was the largest flood in the recorded history of Oregon, Nevada and California, occurring from December 1861 to January 1862. It was preceded by weeks of continuous rains (or snows in the very high elevations) that began in Oregon in November 1861 and continued into January 1862. This was followed by a record amount of rain from January 9th-12th, and contributed to a flood which extended from the Columbia River southward in western Oregon and through California to San Diego, and extended as far inland as Idaho in Washington Territory, Nevada and Utah in Utah Territory and Arizona in western New Mexico Territory.

It was climaxed by a warmer, more intense storm with much more rain that was made more serious by the earlier large accumulation of snow, now melted by the rain in the lower elevations of the mountains. Throughout the affected area, all the streams and rivers rose to great heights, flooded the valleys, inundated or swept away towns, mills, dams, flumes, houses, fences, and domestic animals, and ruined fields. An early estimate of property damage was $10,000,000.[1] However, later it was estimated that approximately one-quarter of the taxable real estate in the state of California was destroyed in the flood. Dependent on property taxes, the State of California went bankrupt. The governor, state legislature, and state employees were not paid for a year and a half.[2] 200,000 cattle drowned, and the state's economy shifted from ranching to farming.[3]"


Great Flood of 1862 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I see. It has happened many, many times before, but is is being called an extreme event, even for a 1000 year event. And it is not just Colorado, dim wit. New Mexico, Kansas, and Missouri are experiancing major flooding, also.

The more you deny the obvious, the obvious it becomes that you will lie about anything in order to deny reality.

 

[editec]

"This is not unprecedented," Doesken said. "It is simply not common."

The floods' impact, though still unclear, was devastating.

Honestly...debating around a heavy rainfall and flood event.

What's the point?

THe cultist morons need every "extreme weather event" to be proof of global warming, so they try to spin the latest ones into the worst that ever happened.

Except nobody actually did that.

Go back and read the original post.

Of course that didn't stop people from SAYING that was the point, but that point never made.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

It's weather, not climate

 

[CrusaderFrank]

4" to 11" of rain in Colorado around Boulder. 12 dams overtopped. Communties cut off. More rain on the way.

Colorado flood: Front Range floodwaters kill three, drench homes - The Denver Post

Big ******* deal.

It's happened many, many times before and has nothing to do with climate change. Here you go, 1862 nearly the entire Central Valley of California was an inland lake. Imagine that today....


"The Great Flood of 1862 or Noachian Deluge was the largest flood in the recorded history of Oregon, Nevada and California, occurring from December 1861 to January 1862. It was preceded by weeks of continuous rains (or snows in the very high elevations) that began in Oregon in November 1861 and continued into January 1862. This was followed by a record amount of rain from January 9th-12th, and contributed to a flood which extended from the Columbia River southward in western Oregon and through California to San Diego, and extended as far inland as Idaho in Washington Territory, Nevada and Utah in Utah Territory and Arizona in western New Mexico Territory.

It was climaxed by a warmer, more intense storm with much more rain that was made more serious by the earlier large accumulation of snow, now melted by the rain in the lower elevations of the mountains. Throughout the affected area, all the streams and rivers rose to great heights, flooded the valleys, inundated or swept away towns, mills, dams, flumes, houses, fences, and domestic animals, and ruined fields. An early estimate of property damage was $10,000,000.[1] However, later it was estimated that approximately one-quarter of the taxable real estate in the state of California was destroyed in the flood. Dependent on property taxes, the State of California went bankrupt. The governor, state legislature, and state employees were not paid for a year and a half.[2] 200,000 cattle drowned, and the state's economy shifted from ranching to farming.[3]"


Great Flood of 1862 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I see. It has happened many, many times before, but is is being called an extreme event, even for a 1000 year event. And it is not just Colorado, dim wit. New Mexico, Kansas, and Missouri are experiancing major flooding, also.

The more you deny the obvious, the obvious it becomes that you will lie about anything in order to deny reality.

Do you know the difference between weather and climate?

 

[Abraham3]

Do you know the difference between weather and climate?

I don't want to speak for him but I bet he does.

The topic of this thread is, more or less, the impact of a warming climate on weather extremes.

Did you catch my use of the word "weather" in the sentence above?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Unseasonably cool in NY today....climate change, amiright?

 

[westwall]

4" to 11" of rain in Colorado around Boulder. 12 dams overtopped. Communties cut off. More rain on the way.

Colorado flood: Front Range floodwaters kill three, drench homes - The Denver Post

Big ******* deal.

It's happened many, many times before and has nothing to do with climate change. Here you go, 1862 nearly the entire Central Valley of California was an inland lake. Imagine that today....


"The Great Flood of 1862 or Noachian Deluge was the largest flood in the recorded history of Oregon, Nevada and California, occurring from December 1861 to January 1862. It was preceded by weeks of continuous rains (or snows in the very high elevations) that began in Oregon in November 1861 and continued into January 1862. This was followed by a record amount of rain from January 9th-12th, and contributed to a flood which extended from the Columbia River southward in western Oregon and through California to San Diego, and extended as far inland as Idaho in Washington Territory, Nevada and Utah in Utah Territory and Arizona in western New Mexico Territory.

It was climaxed by a warmer, more intense storm with much more rain that was made more serious by the earlier large accumulation of snow, now melted by the rain in the lower elevations of the mountains. Throughout the affected area, all the streams and rivers rose to great heights, flooded the valleys, inundated or swept away towns, mills, dams, flumes, houses, fences, and domestic animals, and ruined fields. An early estimate of property damage was $10,000,000.[1] However, later it was estimated that approximately one-quarter of the taxable real estate in the state of California was destroyed in the flood. Dependent on property taxes, the State of California went bankrupt. The governor, state legislature, and state employees were not paid for a year and a half.[2] 200,000 cattle drowned, and the state's economy shifted from ranching to farming.[3]"


Great Flood of 1862 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I see. It has happened many, many times before, but is is being called an extreme event, even for a 1000 year event. And it is not just Colorado, dim wit. New Mexico, Kansas, and Missouri are experiancing major flooding, also.

The more you deny the obvious, the obvious it becomes that you will lie about anything in order to deny reality.

Read a little more in depth about the Great Flood of '62 dumbshit. it affected the ENTIRE WESTERN US you ******* quack. The level of your ignorance is astounding...

Here's ANOTHER one for you to look up...the Grote Mandrenke of 1362, hurricane force winds piled up the water in the Netherlands and drowned at least 25,000. Or how about the 1st St. Marcellus flood that killed 36,000 in 1219 or 1220?

The level of your ignorance is simply astounding.

 

[westwall]

"This is not unprecedented," Doesken said. "It is simply not common."

The floods' impact, though still unclear, was devastating.

Honestly...debating around a heavy rainfall and flood event.

What's the point?

THe cultist morons need every "extreme weather event" to be proof of global warming, so they try to spin the latest ones into the worst that ever happened.

Except nobody actually did that.

Go back and read the original post.

Of course that didn't stop people from SAYING that was the point, but that point never made.

Whenever oltrakartrollingblunderorogenicfraud makes a post like this that IS EXACTLY the point it is trying to make.

 

[Samson]

I'm sure it's a minor event. Colorado can take care of their own.

Since I live in the middle of it, and have yet to see on the MSM crowds of minority refugees trashing a sports stadium whilst a Air Force One circles overhead, I'm certain you are correct.

I'll still be very disappointed if FEMA doesn't give me a call to offer free cheese in my time of distress.

 

[bripat9643]

"This is not unprecedented," Doesken said. "It is simply not common."

The floods' impact, though still unclear, was devastating.

Honestly...debating around a heavy rainfall and flood event.

What's the point?

THe cultist morons need every "extreme weather event" to be proof of global warming, so they try to spin the latest ones into the worst that ever happened.

Except nobody actually did that.

Go back and read the original post.

Of course that didn't stop people from SAYING that was the point, but that point never made.

That's exactly what they did. No one was fooled.

 

[bripat9643]

Big ******* deal.

It's happened many, many times before and has nothing to do with climate change. Here you go, 1862 nearly the entire Central Valley of California was an inland lake. Imagine that today....


"The Great Flood of 1862 or Noachian Deluge was the largest flood in the recorded history of Oregon, Nevada and California, occurring from December 1861 to January 1862. It was preceded by weeks of continuous rains (or snows in the very high elevations) that began in Oregon in November 1861 and continued into January 1862. This was followed by a record amount of rain from January 9th-12th, and contributed to a flood which extended from the Columbia River southward in western Oregon and through California to San Diego, and extended as far inland as Idaho in Washington Territory, Nevada and Utah in Utah Territory and Arizona in western New Mexico Territory.

It was climaxed by a warmer, more intense storm with much more rain that was made more serious by the earlier large accumulation of snow, now melted by the rain in the lower elevations of the mountains. Throughout the affected area, all the streams and rivers rose to great heights, flooded the valleys, inundated or swept away towns, mills, dams, flumes, houses, fences, and domestic animals, and ruined fields. An early estimate of property damage was $10,000,000.[1] However, later it was estimated that approximately one-quarter of the taxable real estate in the state of California was destroyed in the flood. Dependent on property taxes, the State of California went bankrupt. The governor, state legislature, and state employees were not paid for a year and a half.[2] 200,000 cattle drowned, and the state's economy shifted from ranching to farming.[3]"


Great Flood of 1862 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I see. It has happened many, many times before, but is is being called an extreme event, even for a 1000 year event. And it is not just Colorado, dim wit. New Mexico, Kansas, and Missouri are experiancing major flooding, also.

The more you deny the obvious, the obvious it becomes that you will lie about anything in order to deny reality.

Read a little more in depth about the Great Flood of '62 dumbshit. it affected the ENTIRE WESTERN US you ******* quack. The level of your ignorance is astounding...

Here's ANOTHER one for you to look up...the Grote Mandrenke of 1362, hurricane force winds piled up the water in the Netherlands and drowned at least 25,000. Or how about the 1st St. Marcellus flood that killed 36,000 in 1219 or 1220?

The level of your ignorance is simply astounding.

Old Rocks is incredibly stupid. He seems to think history started the day he was born. He also seems to think if we don't have video tape of an event that it never happened. The workings of the liberal mind are fascinating but truly terrifying.

 

[bripat9643]

Do you know the difference between weather and climate?

I don't want to speak for him but I bet he does.

The topic of this thread is, more or less, the impact of a warming climate on weather extremes.

Did you catch my use of the word "weather" in the sentence above?

Yes, we noticed that you believe a weather event is the same as climate change.

 

[Abraham3]

Do you know the difference between weather and climate?

I don't want to speak for him but I bet he does.

The topic of this thread is, more or less, the impact of a warming climate on weather extremes.

Did you catch my use of the word "weather" in the sentence above?

Yes, we noticed that you believe a weather event is the same as climate change.

Don't be embarrassed by ESL. It's not your fault.