Colonizing Christmas: Facts on Israeli Occupation and Bethlehem *Saturday December 1

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If Jesus was born in 2013, it would have had to be a birth somewhere else instead of Bethlehem.

The Apartheid Occupation Wall would have prevented Joseph and Mary from reaching Bethlehem from Nazareth.


Colonizing Christmas: Facts on Israeli Occupation and Bethlehem

Saturday December 15, 2012 00:08 by Palestine News Network -*

"Bethlehem is a vivid example of the severe and appalling effects that Israeli colonization policies have had in Palestine. Illegal confiscation of land, expulsion of Palestinian families and on-going construction of Israeli settlements are few of countless stories that can be heard from the inhabitants of Palestine in general, and Bethlehem in particular."

What Israel has effectively done is seek to change the demographic and geographic composition of the Occupied Palestinian Territories, particularly in Occupied East Jerusalem,
by taking as much as land and natural resources as possible with as few Palestinians as possible, for the benefit of the Zionist illegal colonial enterprise.

For Israel's international image, the Zionist State markets the numbers of permits to Palestinian Christians during Easter and Christmas.

Israel presents their granting of permits as a goodwill gesture and sign of cooperation, although Palestinians are required to ask for permits from the occupying power to go from one side of their own country to the other, not to a different country.

And not every person who applies for permits receives them.

As an illustration, in April of 2011, 15,000 Christian Palestinians applied for a permit to enter occupied East Jerusalem, but Israel only issued around 2500 permits.

That means less than 20% of Christians were allowed entry to Jerusalem on Easter 2011.

Over 80% were denied entry.

Colonizing Christmas: Facts on Israeli Occupation and Bethlehem - International Middle East Media Center
 
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Since Oslo, and semi-autonomy for 'palestine', Christians have been Cleansed from palestinian territories.
Of course, 'Arab Spring', like 'Freedom'/Self Rule for Muslims and Misery for Everyone else.
They are the planet's Most Intolerant lot.

YASSER ARAFAT'S EXEMPLARY CHRISTIAN SPIRIT
By Avi Davis
2002
Yasser Arafat's Exemplary Christian Spirit (Avi Davis) February, 2002

"...The fate of BETHLEHEM offers a fine example.
Since 1994, when Arafat first came to administer Bethlehem the Christian population has gradually been reduced from a 60% majority in Bethlehem to a mere 20%.


This Arafat ensured by first gerrymandering the municipal boundaries of the city, extending them to include the neighboring refugee camps – Dehaisheh, El-Ayda and El-Azeh and adding a few thousand from the Ta'amarah Bedouin tribe. Concurrently Arafat fired the city council which was composed of 9 Christians and 2 Moslems while appointing Muhammed A- Hjabari, a Moslem from Hebron as mayor.
The entire political structure of the city – in the bureaucratic, security and political spheres were eventually cleansed of Christians.
Today the Bethlehem region is in reality run by the local Fatah leader and his THUGS.

The physical and psychological intimidation of Palestinian Chrisitian Arabs throughout the territory then proceeded rapidly.
Mosques were erected in close proximity to churches in order to Oscure and Dminate them. This is the case with the Al Khanga and Abdul Malek mosques which today tower over the Church of the Nativity.
Christian cemeteries, convents and monasteries were Desecrated, their personnel intimidated and in places, their land confiscated.[......]

Not that it wasn't expected. The late Christian mayor of Bethlehem Elias Friej warned that the implementation of the Oslo Accords would result in Bethlehem becoming a town with churches but no Christians. For over 7 years Christian Arabs in East Jerusalem and other West Bank towns have besieged Israeli officials with requests for Israeli I. D. cards knowing full well that the institution of Palestinian rule would result in the kind of extortion and corruption seen wherever the PLO has hoisted its tent.

Those who know something about Persecution of Christians throughout the Arab world will not be shocked by what has occurred in the Palestinian Authority.
In Syria, Lebanon and Egypt, Christian populations suffer from both direct and indirect state sponsored discrimination.
In other Muslim countries such as Nigeria and Indonesia there is open persecution of Christians while in the Sudan it is estimated that close to 2 Million Christians have lost their lives in the course of a bitter civil war.
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CNSNews.com - Palestinian Christians Suffering "Severe Blows" From Muslims, Muslim Says
Palestinian Christians Suffering ‘Severe Blows’ From Muslims, Muslim Says
November 14, 2008
By Julie Stahl

Palestinian Christians are suffering “severe blows” at the hands of Muslims, a Palestinian wrote in an exceptionally candid column about the situation of Christians in Arab countries.

“Let us be honest with ourselves and courageously say out loud that Palestinian Christians are taking many severe blows, yet are suffering in silence so as not to attract attention,” wrote Abd Al-Nasser Al-Najjar in the P.A. daily Al-Ayyam. (A translation was provided by the Middle East Media Research Institute this week.)

Muslims and most Christians in Palestinian areas tell journalists that they are all Palestinians. Publicly, they usually deny that there are any problems or differences between them. They say that they get along fine and the main problem is the Israeli “occupation” of the West Bank.

Privately, however, some Christians admit to job losses, land seizures, attacks on churches, intimidation, torture, beatings, kidnappings, forced marriage and sexual harassment of Christian women. Some Christians have been killed.


But examples of inter-religious tension rarely make it into the Palestinian or Arab media.

In his column on October 25, Al-Najjar, who is himself a Muslim and a regular contributor to the official P.A. newspaper, criticized the Muslim persecution of Christians in Arab countries, particularly in Palestinian Authority-administered areas.


Copyright. Link Each "Copy & Paste" to It's Source.
Palestinian Christians Suffering ?Severe Blows? From Muslims, Muslim Says | CNS News


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Christmas in Bethlehem: Cross Banished to Appease Islamic fundamentalists
December 23rd, 2010
Christmas in Bethlehem: Cross banished to appease Islamic fundamentalists - National Libertarian | Examiner.com

Never mind dreaming of a White Christmas. This Christmas, tourists and pilgrims to the Holy Land will need to keep their piety under wraps. AsiaNews reports that in Bethlehem, the city of Jesus’ birth, the Cross has been Banned for fear of stirring up unrest among followers of Islam (aka, the religion of peace). Writes AsiaNews:

Some textile workshops in Jerusalem and Hebron have begun to print and sell T-shirts depicting the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem without the cross. Because of the growth of Islamic fundamentalism in the Palestinian territories, the cross was also removed from T-shirts of football teams.

Samir Qumsieh, director of the Catholic television station Al-Mahed Nativity TV in Bethlehem, is reported as having said, "I want to launch a campaign to urge people Not to buy these products,” adding “removal of the cross is an intimidation against Christians, it is like saying that Jesus was never crucified.”​

As the article further notes, recent years have witnessed a mass exodus of Christians from the Palestinian territories, their chief motivation fear. Since Hamas’ rise to power, the Christian population in Gaza has dwindled from 5,000 to less than 1,800. If the decline continues at the current rate, it is not inconceivable that the Holy Land will eventually have ZERO Christians living within its borders.

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I have found myself comparing the Roman Occupation of Palestine to the Zionist Occupation of Palestine.

The Zionist Occupation of Palestine has been a much more brutal Occupation.

There was no Apartheid Wall, there is one difference.

THERE was not ongoing slaughter of civilian and children by the Romans, another difference.
 
You think Rome did not build walls? There are posts and crossing. It might be a bit inconvenient but you can get from one place to the other.
Wall are to protect and keep enemies out. Wall have been build throughout history around the world.
Great Wall of China can be seen from space.
After wall went up, Israel had fewer attacks from the WB. The wall saves lives.
With Peace, wall can also be taken down (i.e. Berlin)
Stop using the wall as an excuse not to have peace. Peace first and then discuss opening more part of the wall or eventually take it all down.
 
"Zionist Occupation Of Palestine"??? Now THAT"S funny.


I have found myself comparing the Roman Occupation of Palestine to the Zionist Occupation of Palestine.

The Zionist Occupation of Palestine has been a much more brutal Occupation.

There was no Apartheid Wall, there is one difference.

THERE was not ongoing slaughter of civilian and children by the Romans, another difference.
 
A mosque is going up across the court yard from Church of the Nativity.
Muslim hold the keys to the Church of the Holy Sepulchre.
No one except Muslims are allowed to pray or carry any religious items on the mount.
Muslims converted the Hagia Sophia into a mosque. (Turkey)
The al-Aqsa occupies the site of the Church of St. Mary of Justinian

Seems Muslims are the occupier of the holy place.
This is why the peace talks are suggesting the Vatican control the sites for a time so they will be open to all people and faiths.
 
Why do you continue Palestiniao start these threads in this sub-forum?

Allow me to introduce you to the correct sub-forum for threads like these...

Israel and Palestine - US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

There can be nothing more natural then discussing an issue about Palestine in a Middle East forum.

Palestine exists and it lies within the Middle East.

Nice dodge, l'il sherriliar. The question asked was "why don't YOU - the sherrithing - spew your hateful poison in the I/P foum?"

I think a reasonable answer is that the venomous vituperation which she spits (in vain!) isn't in keeping with the tone of the I/P forum........
 
You think Rome did not build walls? There are posts and crossing. It might be a bit inconvenient but you can get from one place to the other.
Wall are to protect and keep enemies out. Wall have been build throughout history around the world.
Great Wall of China can be seen from space.
After wall went up, Israel had fewer attacks from the WB. The wall saves lives.
With Peace, wall can also be taken down (i.e. Berlin)
Stop using the wall as an excuse not to have peace. Peace first and then discuss opening more part of the wall or eventually take it all down.

What we know did not exist was an Apartheid Wall that prevented Joseph and Mary from traveling from Nazareth to Bethlehem where Baby Jesus was born.
 
If Jesus was born in 2013, it would have had to be a birth somewhere else instead of Bethlehem.

The Apartheid Occupation Wall would have prevented Joseph and Mary from reaching Bethlehem from Nazareth.


Colonizing Christmas: Facts on Israeli Occupation and Bethlehem

Saturday December 15, 2012 00:08 by Palestine News Network -*

"Bethlehem is a vivid example of the severe and appalling effects that Israeli colonization policies have had in Palestine. Illegal confiscation of land, expulsion of Palestinian families and on-going construction of Israeli settlements are few of countless stories that can be heard from the inhabitants of Palestine in general, and Bethlehem in particular."

What Israel has effectively done is seek to change the demographic and geographic composition of the Occupied Palestinian Territories, particularly in Occupied East Jerusalem,
by taking as much as land and natural resources as possible with as few Palestinians as possible, for the benefit of the Zionist illegal colonial enterprise.

For Israel's international image, the Zionist State markets the numbers of permits to Palestinian Christians during Easter and Christmas.

Israel presents their granting of permits as a goodwill gesture and sign of cooperation, although Palestinians are required to ask for permits from the occupying power to go from one side of their own country to the other, not to a different country.

And not every person who applies for permits receives them.

As an illustration, in April of 2011, 15,000 Christian Palestinians applied for a permit to enter occupied East Jerusalem, but Israel only issued around 2500 permits.

That means less than 20% of Christians were allowed entry to Jerusalem on Easter 2011.

Over 80% were denied entry.

Colonizing Christmas: Facts on Israeli Occupation and Bethlehem - International Middle East Media Center

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A mosque is going up across the court yard from Church of the Nativity.
Muslim hold the keys to the Church of the Holy Sepulchre.
No one except Muslims are allowed to pray or carry any religious items on the mount.
Muslims converted the Hagia Sophia into a mosque. (Turkey)
The al-Aqsa occupies the site of the Church of St. Mary of Justinian

Seems Muslims are the occupier of the holy place.
This is why the peace talks are suggesting the Vatican control the sites for a time so they will be open to all people and faiths.

Wrong, Israel occupies Palestine

We have an Opinion of The International Court of Justice telling us this Truth.

And nothing you say in your post, true or not true, proves that to be untrue
 
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A mosque is going up across the court yard from Church of the Nativity.
Muslim hold the keys to the Church of the Holy Sepulchre.
No one except Muslims are allowed to pray or carry any religious items on the mount.
Muslims converted the Hagia Sophia into a mosque. (Turkey)
The al-Aqsa occupies the site of the Church of St. Mary of Justinian

Seems Muslims are the occupier of the holy place.
This is why the peace talks are suggesting the Vatican control the sites for a time so they will be open to all people and faiths.

Wrong, Israel occupies Palestine

We have an Opinion of The International Court of Justice telling us this Truth.

And nothing you say, true or not, proves that to be untrue

Evidently, this woman who considers herself a "good Christian" has no problem with the Muslims converting ancient churches into mosques. How different from Hindus who are not happy with their temples being converterd into mosques.
 
You think Rome did not build walls? There are posts and crossing. It might be a bit inconvenient but you can get from one place to the other.
Wall are to protect and keep enemies out. Wall have been build throughout history around the world.
Great Wall of China can be seen from space.
After wall went up, Israel had fewer attacks from the WB. The wall saves lives.
With Peace, wall can also be taken down (i.e. Berlin)
Stop using the wall as an excuse not to have peace. Peace first and then discuss opening more part of the wall or eventually take it all down.

What we know did not exist was an Apartheid Wall that prevented Joseph and Mary from traveling from Nazareth to Bethlehem where Baby Jesus was born.
Big deal, Mahmoud. Nazareth has a hospital today so baby Jesus wouldn't have to commute.
 
Why do you continue Palestiniao start these threads in this sub-forum?

Allow me to introduce you to the correct sub-forum for threads like these...

Israel and Palestine - US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

There can be nothing more natural then discussing an issue about Palestine in a Middle East forum.

Palestine exists and it lies within the Middle East.

Iraq and Iran are in the Middle East too, but when articles about these two countries are posted on this Middle East forum, many, many times they are moved to the Iraq and Iran forums. Of course we know that you are not interested in iraq even though many innocent people have been killed.
Attacks in Iraq Kill 17, Including Military Leader - ABC News
 
Text straight from the legal opinion on The Wall by The International Court Of Justice, the highest international legal authority in our world.

"78. The Court would observe that, under customary international law as reflected (see paragraph 89 below) in Article 42 of the Regulations Respecting the Laws and Customs of War on Land annexed to the Fourth Hague Convention of 18 October 1907 (hereinafter "the Hague Regulations of 1907"), territory is considered occupied when it is actually placed under the authority of the hostile army, and the occupation extends only to the territory where such authority has been established and can be exercised."

"The territories situated between the Green Line (see paragraph 72 above) and the former eastern boundary of Palestine under the Mandate were occupied by Israel in 1967 during the armed conflict between Israel and Jordan. Under customary international law, these were therefore occupied territories in which Israel had the status of occupying Power. Subsequent events in these territories, as described in paragraphs 75 to 77 above, have done nothing to alter this situation. All these territories (including East Jerusalem) remain occupied territories and Israel has continued to have the status of occupying Power."


Study Guide: legal status of territories and Jerusalem
 
You think Rome did not build walls? There are posts and crossing. It might be a bit inconvenient but you can get from one place to the other.
Wall are to protect and keep enemies out. Wall have been build throughout history around the world.
Great Wall of China can be seen from space.
After wall went up, Israel had fewer attacks from the WB. The wall saves lives.
With Peace, wall can also be taken down (i.e. Berlin)
Stop using the wall as an excuse not to have peace. Peace first and then discuss opening more part of the wall or eventually take it all down.

What we know did not exist was an Apartheid Wall that prevented Joseph and Mary from traveling from Nazareth to Bethlehem where Baby Jesus was born.
Big deal, Mahmoud. Nazareth has a hospital today so baby Jesus wouldn't have to commute.

God decides these matter, not Zionuts.

He obviously did not choose a hospital for the birthplace of Baby Jesus.
 
Why do you continue Palestiniao start these threads in this sub-forum?

Allow me to introduce you to the correct sub-forum for threads like these...

Israel and Palestine - US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

There can be nothing more natural then discussing an issue about Palestine in a Middle East forum.

Palestine exists and it lies within the Middle East.

Iraq and Iran are in the Middle East too, but when articles about these two countries are posted on this Middle East forum, many, many times they are moved to the Iraq and Iran forums. Of course we know that you are not interested in iraq even though many innocent people have been killed.
Attacks in Iraq Kill 17, Including Military Leader - ABC News

I am aware of none of that.

Are you a Moderator now?
 

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