Colin Gray: 2nd Degree Murder?

[Mack Brazile]

The parents need to be made more accountable, too.

If you have a fucking nutter kid they must be home schooled, don't bring that weird fucker around other people

 

[ThisIsMe]

A car isn't a gun. A car is a bit of a necessity in our society because we haven't invested in mass transit to the degree we should have. It isn't specifically designed to kill people.

This kid said shit so fucking crazy it caught the attention of the FBI. That's when you take every gun out of the house until a shrink says that kid isn't crazy anymore.

THROW THE FUCKING FATHER IN JAIL FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE!!!!

I understand the car isn’t a fun, but not all guns are designed to kill people, you have hunting rifles, sporting rifles, the intended use for these guns is recreation..so in that vein, the intended use for a car is transport, but can be misused as a lethal weapon.

Also, ANY civilian gun is not made for the purpose of murder, at most, it’s made for the purpose of self defense.

I agree, though, if the kid was already showing signs of thoughts of ill intent, then the father shouldn’t have allowed him to have a gun, and should be held liable, if he knew.

 

[JoeB131]

I understand the car isn’t a fun, but not all guns are designed to kill people, you have hunting rifles, sporting rifles, the intended use for these guns is recreation..so in that vein, the intended use for a car is transport, but can be misused as a lethal weapon.

Also, ANY civilian gun is not made for the purpose of murder, at most, it’s made for the purpose of self defense.

I agree, though, if the kid was already showing signs of thoughts of ill intent, then the father shouldn’t have allowed him to have a gun, and should be held liable, if he knew.

The gun his father bought for him AFTER the police warned him that he had posted on line about shooting up his school, was an AR-15. It was SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED for killing people on a battlefield.

 

[ThisIsMe]

The gun his father bought for him AFTER the police warned him that he had posted on line about shooting up his school, was an AR-15. It was SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED for killing people on a battlefield.

AR-15 is not a military rifle.

Also, they never say what gun it was, they always say “AR style rifle”


AR-15 is billed as a “modern sporting rifle”

That said, I agree with you, if his father knew he was capable of doing this, he is liable for allowing him to have this weapon.

 

[j-mac]

Does anybody REALLY think this is right? Can you make a case? Seems to me the State is carrying out MOB JUSTICE. Do words even matter? Murder has a definition.

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The father of the 14-year-old Apalachee High School shooting suspect faces two counts of second-degree murder in connection with this week’s Georgia attack that left four dead – charges that push the legal limits of parental responsibility for a child’s alleged gun crime.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/09/06/us/colin-gray-georgia-shooting-suspect-father-charges/index.html

Sorry Carl,

While I don’t know about 2nd degree murder, certainly depraved indifference, or similar…the man bought his disturbed son an AR with ammo, AFTER they talked to the sheriff about threats to shoot up a school…how stupid as a parent can you be?

 

[JoeB131]

AR-15 is not a military rifle.

Also, they never say what gun it was, they always say “AR style rifle”


AR-15 is billed as a “modern sporting rifle”

That said, I agree with you, if his father knew he was capable of doing this, he is liable for allowing him to have this weapon.

Guy, the AR-15 was designed as a prototype for the M16 rifle for the army.

It would never exist if the Army hadn't asked for it.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Guy, the AR-15 was designed as a prototype for the M16 rifle for the army.

It would never exist if the Army hadn't asked for it.

Sure, but the civilian, semi auto version is not used in the military, and is not sold as a weapon of war. It’s sold and marketed as a sporting rifle, or a self defense mechanism.

A car is sold as a transit option, but can be used as a weapon that can kill just as many people as a rifle, in an even shorter amount of time.

 

[surada]

I understand the car isn’t a fun, but not all guns are designed to kill people, you have hunting rifles, sporting rifles, the intended use for these guns is recreation..so in that vein, the intended use for a car is transport, but can be misused as a lethal weapon.

Also, ANY civilian gun is not made for the purpose of murder, at most, it’s made for the purpose of self defense.

I agree, though, if the kid was already showing signs of thoughts of ill intent, then the father shouldn’t have allowed him to have a gun, and should be held liable, if he knew.

Did he use a weapon for hunting?

 

[surada]

Sure, but the civilian, semi auto version is not used in the military, and is not sold as a weapon of war. It’s sold and marketed as a sporting rifle, or a self defense mechanism.

A car is sold as a transit option, but can be used as a weapon that can kill just as many people as a rifle, in an even shorter amount of time.

What sport is that?

 

[ThisIsMe]

Did he use a weapon for hunting?

Did he ever? Maybe, I don’t know. That doesn’t change the fact that guns are not marketed for the purpose of murder.

 

[ThisIsMe]

What sport is that?

Hunting, target practice. Those are generally the terms associated with “sporting rifle”

 

[Dragonlady]

Sure, but the civilian, semi auto version is not used in the military, and is not sold as a weapon of war. It’s sold and marketed as a sporting rifle, or a self defense mechanism.

A car is sold as a transit option, but can be used as a weapon that can kill just as many people as a rifle, in an even shorter amount of time.

It would be bad PR to market the gun as a "killing machine". Given the internal damage the ammunition does to prevent your attacker from ever getting up, using the gun for hunting wouldn't be practical either.

 

[surada]

Did he ever? Maybe, I don’t know. That doesn’t change the fact that guns are not marketed for the purpose of murder.

I come from a family with at least 3 generations of hunters... mostly deer and ducks. ... occasionally wild hogs and
, quail.

They don't use automatic weapons.

 

[22lcidw]

I come from a family with at least 3 generations of hunters... mostly deer and ducks. ... occasionally wild hogs and
, quail.

They don't use automatic weapons.

Weapons are the great equalizer. Whether liked or not.

 

[M14 Shooter]

While I agree that a 15 year old kid has no business or any valid reason to own an AR-15, unless the father knew the kid was going to do this, I’m not sure how he can be held liable.

This is correct.
Simply buying a gun for a kid is insufficient for accessory charges.

 

[M14 Shooter]

They don't use automatic weapons.

Do you know the difference between automatic and semi-automatic weapons?

 

[JoeB131]

Sure, but the civilian, semi auto version is not used in the military, and is not sold as a weapon of war. It’s sold and marketed as a sporting rifle, or a self defense mechanism.

A car is sold as a transit option, but can be used as a weapon that can kill just as many people as a rifle, in an even shorter amount of time.

You know what, I'm not playing this dishonest game with you.

The ability to fire fully automatic was not the only feature the army was looking for in the AR-15, which IS a war weapon that has no place on our streets, period.

We shouldn't have to bury a bunch of school kids to figure this out.

 

[airplanemechanic]

The gun his father bought for him AFTER the police warned him that he had posted on line about shooting up his school, was an AR-15. It was SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED for killing people on a battlefield.

The fact that you think a civilian AR-15 is "used on a battlefield" has rendered your validity in this conversation moot.

You may leave now, and don't let the door hit you in your liberal dumb ass.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Given the internal damage the ammunition does to prevent your attacker from ever getting up, using the gun for hunting wouldn't be practical either.

One of these rounds is among the most popular hunting cartridges in North America, more than capable of taking taking game like elk, caribou and moose.
The other is the round most commonly fired from an AR15.
Which is which?

 

[M14 Shooter]

The fact that you think a civilian AR-15 is "used on a battlefield" has rendered your validity in this conversation moot.

He's a troll, so...