Cockpit window crack forces ANA Boeing flight in Japan to turn back

[Marener]

And in the last ten years crashes have been spiking and almost all have been attributed to Boeing.

Thus the FAA has finally stepped in and basically taken over Boeing. Now they need FAA approval to take a piss.

This comes from favoring shareholders over engineers.

 

[Weatherman2020]

that is very nice, now back up this....last ten years crashes have been spiking

Data is your friend. Use it.

Or simply tell us why the FAA basically took over Boeing that doesn’t involve mismanagement.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Data is your friend. Use it.

I will be happy to use it once you provide it.

 

[WorldWatcher]

what year was the plane in question manufactured?

The more correct question is when was the window installed?

(Was it original or a replacement.)

WW

 

[Harpy Eagle]

The more correct question is when was the window installed?

(Was it original or a replacement.)

WW

It is not all that rare, a bird strike can cause it to happen

 

[WorldWatcher]

It is not all that rare, a bird strike can cause it to happen

Not only that, but slow pressure leaks, seal breakdown, heater elements going bad, etc.

Flight station windows are not like the windows in your home. They are made of multiple primary layers (each of which can take the pressure differential). Actually the "glass" is itself is an overlay to the main structural acrylic underneath.

A "crack" in the glass isn't something that will result in explosive decompression, but of course the prudent action is to land as soon as possible for a full repair (replacement).

WW

 

[Zebra]

Is this another incident with Boeing? This isn't from last week.

it is new!

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Blown out cargo doors and cracks in windshields? WTF is going on?

Diversity hires instead of merit and experience.

 

[22lcidw]

Diversity hires instead of merit and experience.

That model of aircraft is in the news too much.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

This comes from favoring shareholders over engineers.

It comes from favoring DEI over safety.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Good thing Boeing hires based upon skin color and gender of the day instead of talent! Windows blowing out or cracking are mere side issues. Have to break a few eggs to make an omelette!

It comes from favoring DEI over safety.

Where is your evidence that played a role in this and the other event?

 

[Weatherman2020]

Where is your evidence that played a role in this and the other event?

Best people for the job were not at hand, duh.

 

[toobfreak]

An aborted flight is as good as a crash in the eyes of the FAA. I used to be on an aviation accident team for an aerospace company and it’s fun from the detective side of me but horrific on the paperwork side.

I'm a big fan of the TV series: Mayday, and Mayday: Air Disaster. But no, an aborted flight is way better than a crash because in the former, something was detected going wrong and they were able to safely return /before/ a plane crashed killing people!

 

[Weatherman2020]

I'm a big fan of the TV series: Mayday, and Mayday: Air Disaster. But no, an aborted flight is way better than a crash because in the former, something was detected going wrong and they were able to safely return /before/ a plane crashed killing people!

Not in the eyes of the FAA. An aborted flight just means a failure occurred and you don’t have much redundancy in aircraft.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Flashback to 2019:

 

[Independent thinker]

Good thing Boeing hires based upon skin color and gender of the day instead of talent! Windows blowing out or cracking are mere side issues. Have to break a few eggs to make an omelette!

“A domestic All Nippon Airways (ANA) flight in Japan has returned to its departure airport after a crack was reported on the cockpit window during the flight. . . . The plane, a Boeing 737, landed back at Sapporo’s New Chitose airport at around 12:10 local time (3:10 GMT).”

Cockpit window crack forces ANA Boeing flight in Japan to turn back

The domestic flight in Japan landed safely after the crack appeared, the airline says.

www.bbc.com

Not to worry, the FAA is looking to hire mentally unstable people for DEI.

 

[toobfreak]

Not in the eyes of the FAA. An aborted flight just means a failure occurred and you don’t have much redundancy in aircraft.

Yes but an aborted flight could just mean a harmless malfunction that is concerning or an unruly passenger. At least they got down safely. A crashed flight means a failed flight with a fatal malfunction likely killing 200 people. YUGE difference.

It is the malfunctions you never discover until too late that you cannot recover from that are the biggest concern.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Yes but an aborted flight could just mean a harmless malfunction that is concerning or an unruly passenger. At least they got down safely. A crashed flight means a failed flight with a fatal malfunction likely killing 200 people. YUGE difference.

It is the malfunctions you never discover until too late that you cannot recover from that are the biggest concern.

No such thing as a harmless malfunction on a plane causing a flight to be aborted. It means there’s only one less chance for it to land safely. Very few things are triple redundant on an aircraft.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Yes but an aborted flight could just mean a harmless malfunction that is concerning or an unruly passenger. At least they got down safely. A crashed flight means a failed flight with a fatal malfunction likely killing 200 people. YUGE difference.

It is the malfunctions you never discover until too late that you cannot recover from that are the biggest concern.

Two of the many incidents I was involved with were fires onboard. Both landed safely. Another was a fully loaded F-16 in Afghanistan that took a sudden left turn on the runway. Pilot was able to keep it from crashing.

 

[toobfreak]

No such thing as a harmless malfunction on a plane causing a flight to be aborted. It means there’s only one less chance for it to land safely. Very few things are triple redundant on an aircraft.

Well, what about the landing gear light? There have been planes which needed to land due to some issue but the landing gear light did not light when they lowered the lander gear indicating it was locked in place. So they had to climb down and try to look through a window to visually see if the gear was in place and it turned out it was just a burned out lamp.

That was a malfunction, yet did it cause any harm? They still landed and no one was hurt. We are talking about degrees here. Any malfunction which still allows the plane to function and land safely is a lot better than one which causes a severe loss of control ultimately crashing the jet.