Coal Miners Union Says Coal is Doomed

[mamooth]

Just 44,000 people work in the coal industry now, with only 20,000 miners. There was a loss of 12,000 coal mining jobs over the Trump admin. Trump used the miners and then threw them away.

The coal miners are figuring that out.

https://umwa.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/UMWA-Preserving-Coal-Country-2021.pdf

That's the largest coal mining union presenting their plan to preserve Coal Country. Not coal, but Coal Country. UMWA President Cecil Robert's plan includes ... wait for it ... more green energy. Plus funding for cleaning up old coal mine messes. And it calls for a lot of social safety net stuff.

They're also calling for fudning more CCS, Carbon Capture & Storage for coal-burning plants. That's probably a waste, because CCS doesn't seem to work, not at any sane price. The previous attempt at it, the Kemper County Energy Facility in Mississippi, went so wildly over budget that they just decided to burn natural gas instead.

 

[Ridgerunner]

Back home in Indiana...


Indiana is generally regarded as one of the top coal producing states in the country producing between 32 and 35 million tons per year. Indiana coal is used primarily to generate electricity but some is used as coke in steel mills. More than 95 percent of electricity used in Indiana comes from coal.
Reference: faqs.in.gov/hc/en-us/articles/115005242268-How-much-coal-is-mined-in-Indiana-and-how-is-it-used-

 

[Ridgerunner]

Former coal miner says green jobs haven't materialized for people in the industry

 

[HenryBHough]

Coal is dead until people start dying from having no heat. Not this year. Probably not for several more. When the natural heating/cooling cycle of Earth gets back to the setting marked "deep freeze" hearts and minds will change.

 

[Ridgerunner]

 

[Polishprince]

Coal is dead until people start dying from having no heat. Not this year. Probably not for several more. When the natural heating/cooling cycle of Earth gets back to the setting marked "deep freeze" hearts and minds will change.

Gas will keep you plenty warm too.

 

[HenryBHough]

Coal is dead until people start dying from having no heat. Not this year. Probably not for several more. When the natural heating/cooling cycle of Earth gets back to the setting marked "deep freeze" hearts and minds will change.

Gas will keep you plenty warm too.

Eat more beans.

Shove a a tube and connect the other end to your heater.

Squeeze, Squeeze, Squeeze
but not TOO hard!

 

[Dekster]

Coal is dead until people start dying from having no heat. Not this year. Probably not for several more. When the natural heating/cooling cycle of Earth gets back to the setting marked "deep freeze" hearts and minds will change.

I wouldn't call it dead, but in Appalachia it is functionally extinct for a multitude of reasons. I am not sure that most people there aren't secretly fine with it going the way of the dodo bird as long as something else comes along that allows people to make at least a survivable wage. The mine workers are a bit optimistic if they think that Uncle Sam is going to give their former members an open-ended check to cover the gap between what they were making in the mine and what they are making at Dollar General plus 401K contributions plus all the other bennies they feel they are entitled to.

 

[theHawk]

Just 44,000 people work in the coal industry now, with only 20,000 miners. There was a loss of 12,000 coal mining jobs over the Trump admin. Trump used the miners and then threw them away.

The coal miners are figuring that out.

https://umwa.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/UMWA-Preserving-Coal-Country-2021.pdf

That's the largest coal mining union presenting their plan to preserve Coal Country. Not coal, but Coal Country. UMWA President Cecil Robert's plan includes ... wait for it ... more green energy. Plus funding for cleaning up old coal mine messes. And it calls for a lot of social safety net stuff.

They're also calling for fudning more CCS, Carbon Capture & Storage for coal-burning plants. That's probably a waste, because CCS doesn't seem to work, not at any sane price. The previous attempt at it, the Kemper County Energy Facility in Mississippi, went so wildly over budget that they just decided to burn natural gas instead.

Yup it’s all about natural gas and nuclear.

 

[Synthaholic]

Just 44,000 people work in the coal industry now, with only 20,000 miners. There was a loss of 12,000 coal mining jobs over the Trump admin. Trump used the miners and then threw them away.

The coal miners are figuring that out.

https://umwa.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/UMWA-Preserving-Coal-Country-2021.pdf

That's the largest coal mining union presenting their plan to preserve Coal Country. Not coal, but Coal Country. UMWA President Cecil Robert's plan includes ... wait for it ... more green energy. Plus funding for cleaning up old coal mine messes. And it calls for a lot of social safety net stuff.

They're also calling for fudning more CCS, Carbon Capture & Storage for coal-burning plants. That's probably a waste, because CCS doesn't seem to work, not at any sane price. The previous attempt at it, the Kemper County Energy Facility in Mississippi, went so wildly over budget that they just decided to burn natural gas instead.

Oh, you mean EXACTLY what Hillary Clinton promised West Virginia? That she would help them convert to Green Energy?

The dumbasses got conned by Donny Douchebag and lost 5 years.

 

[Synthaholic]

Former coal miner says green jobs haven't materialized for people in the industry

Its been less than 100 days!

 

[Polishprince]

Former coal miner says green jobs haven't materialized for people in the industry

Its been less than 100 days!

So?

What progress has Sleepy Joe made on his promise so far in this regard?

 

[skookerasbil]

https://theghnews.com/2021/03/20/fossil-fuels-will-continue-to-dominate-for-decades-to-come-experts/

 

[skookerasbil]

https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/China-Started-More-Coal-Plants-Than-The-Entire-World-Retired-In-2020.html

 

[skookerasbil]

China Is Still Building an Insane Number of New Coal Plants
While the rest of the world turns away from the fossil fuel, China is investing big in coal-powered electricity.



China Is Still Building an Insane Number of New Coal Plants

 

[skookerasbil]

Train wrecking the simpletons...........

https://www.carbonbrief.org/mapped-worlds-coal-power-plants

 

[surada]

Coal is dead until people start dying from having no heat. Not this year. Probably not for several more. When the natural heating/cooling cycle of Earth gets back to the setting marked "deep freeze" hearts and minds will change.

100,000 coal jobs have disappeared since 1980. Where did they go?

Were coal jobs the victims of a political war on coal or the result of over-zealous regulation? The real reason may surprise you.

www.freeingenergy.com

 

[surada]

Just 44,000 people work in the coal industry now, with only 20,000 miners. There was a loss of 12,000 coal mining jobs over the Trump admin. Trump used the miners and then threw them away.

The coal miners are figuring that out.

https://umwa.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/UMWA-Preserving-Coal-Country-2021.pdf

That's the largest coal mining union presenting their plan to preserve Coal Country. Not coal, but Coal Country. UMWA President Cecil Robert's plan includes ... wait for it ... more green energy. Plus funding for cleaning up old coal mine messes. And it calls for a lot of social safety net stuff.

They're also calling for fudning more CCS, Carbon Capture & Storage for coal-burning plants. That's probably a waste, because CCS doesn't seem to work, not at any sane price. The previous attempt at it, the Kemper County Energy Facility in Mississippi, went so wildly over budget that they just decided to burn natural gas instead.

Oh, you mean EXACTLY what Hillary Clinton promised West Virginia? That she would help them convert to Green Energy?

The dumbasses got conned by Donny Douchebag and lost 5 years.

 

[initforme]

Coal workers have always gotten the shaft especially for pay. The pay should have been triple to 5x what it is for the conditions.

 

[surada]

Coal workers have always gotten the shaft especially for pay. The pay should have been triple to 5x what it is for the conditions.

Coal miners could go to work out of HS and earn more that 75,000 a year. But,the industry has shed another 100,000 jobs since 1980 and there simply isn't any way to bring it back despite Trump's promises.