CNN: Iran is preparing to attack Israel with cruise missiles.(Poll)

[Marener]

Link or explanation. I call bullshit. Trump had peace on track in the ME via the Abraham Accords.

Sure dude. He was this close.

 

[kyzr]

What did Trump plan for 2 million Arab Gazans? What was his "peace track"?

It was called "status quo". The walls were up. It was Hamas who kept shooting rockets at Israelis. Still relative peace.
The plan now is genocide thanks to Hamas. Nice work.

 

[Kondor3]

There’s no better option than to upend the global economic lifeblood? Maybe just target all of their military assets so they can’t wage war? Sure, they can rebuild but that would cost them tons of money, but would have the same effect as smashing their oil fields?

If we are to engage is must be for Regime Change.

They are Islamist fanatics.

If we do not achieve Regime Change during any conflict we just kick the can down the road for the next generation.

War is not a good thing.

But if war comes it must be decisive and an end to a given threat.

Smashing their oil fields impoverishes them and tempts their own people to effect the change.

Change from within is almost always better than change imposed from the outside, yes?

Far less costly, too, in the final analysis... from the macro perspective.

 

[surada]

It was called "status quo". The walls were up. It was Hamas who kept shooting rockets at Israelis. Still relative peace.
The plan now is genocide thanks to Hamas. Nice work.

The utter failure of the Abraham Accords

The Israeli aggression against Palestinians demonstrates that the normalisation deals had nothing to do with peace.

www.aljazeera.com

Israel continues to be engaged in systematic ethnic cleansing of Palestinians. Aided by police and state laws that discriminate against non-Jews, the Israeli authorities persist in their campaign to expel Palestinians from occupied East Jerusalem, with several families now threatened with forced eviction from their homes in the Sheikh Jarrah neighbourhood.

Israel also continues to trample over Palestinians’ religious rights. For nights on end, Israeli police attacked worshippers in Al-Aqsa Mosque during the month of Ramadan and actually lobbed stun grenades and smoke bombs into the al-Haram al-Sharif compound. Israeli forces also harassed Palestinian Christians and prevented some of them from reaching the Church of Holy Sepulchre for Easter services.

 

[kyzr]

Israel continues to be engaged in systematic ethnic cleansing of Palestinians. Aided by police and state laws that discriminate against non-Jews, the Israeli authorities persist in their campaign to expel Palestinians from occupied East Jerusalem, with several families now threatened with forced eviction from their homes in the Sheikh Jarrah neighbourhood.

Israel also continues to trample over Palestinians’ religious rights. For nights on end, Israeli police attacked worshipers in Al-Aqsa Mosque during the month of Ramadan and actually lobbed stun grenades and smoke bombs into the al-Haram al-Sharif compound. Israeli forces also harassed Palestinian Christians and prevented some of them from reaching the Church of Holy Sepulcher for Easter services.

Meh. Pales in comparison to the brutality of burning and decapitating Jewish babies.

 

[Blaster]

Israel has no weapons until we give them.
Look up the sizes of Iran & Israel

Bullshit.

 

[surada]

Meh. Pales in comparison to the brutality of burning and decapitating Jewish babies.

Most of that never happened. Exaggerating and demonizing the enemy is an old tactic to justify your behavior if you want to kill them and take their land.

The Jews did it to the Canaanites. Hitler did it to the Jews.

 

[surada]

Bullshit.

Have you been to Iran or Israel?

 

[Rocko]

I think Iran is trying to save face after getting hit by Israel

 

[Zebra]

shoot them down …. as 5 of 11 say

 

[ThisIsMe]

If we are to engage is must be for Regime Change.

They are Islamist fanatics.

If we do not achieve Regime Change during any conflict we just kick the can down the road for the next generation.

War is not a good thing.

But if war comes it must be decisive and an end to a given threat.

Smashing their oil fields impoverishes them and tempts their own people to effect the change.

Change from within is almost always better than change imposed from the outside, yes?

Far less costly, too, in the final analysis... from the macro perspective.

Would that not also impoverish the people…even more than they already are? Oil is like 42% of irans economy..what would crushing their oil fields do to the economy overall? Would just choking their military not be the better option?

 

[Kondor3]

Would that not also impoverish the people…even more than they already are? Oil is like 42% of irans economy..what would crushing their oil fields do to the economy overall? Would just choking their military not be the better option?

It will "inconvenience" OUR economy.

It will devastate THEIRS.

Economic warfare costs less blood and treasure than REAL warfare... or, at least, so it seems, to this observer.

 

[ThisIsMe]

It will "inconvenience" OUR economy.

It will devastate THEIRS.

Economic warfare costs less blood and treasure than REAL warfare... or, at least, so it seems, to this observer.

It would have a large impact on our economy. Oil is traded on the global market. Destroy irans oil fields and you will upend those markets.

But hey..go for it. Hope you enjoy the $200 bbl oil gas prices.

 

[Kondor3]

It would have a large impact on our economy. Oil is traded on the global market. Destroy irans oil fields and you will upend those markets.

But hey..go for it. Hope you enjoy the $200 bbl oil gas prices.

Cheap at 10 times the price if it topples the mullahs and restores freedom to Iran...

 

[ThisIsMe]

Cheap at 10 times the price if it topples the mullahs and restores freedom to Iran...

Ok, have at then. Of course, those in this country who are struggling won’t think it’s cheap..

 

[Kondor3]

Ok, have at then. Of course, those in this country who are struggling won’t think it’s cheap..

The alternative is a larger number of dead sons and daughters... in the broader scheme of things, it is, indeed, cheaper.

 

[ThisIsMe]

The alternative is a larger number of dead sons and daughters... in the broader scheme of things, it is, indeed, cheaper.

And taking away their ability to wage war by destroying their military assets and bases isn’t a better idea? That way, you stop them, but also are not killling the global market

 

[Kondor3]

And taking away their ability to wage war by destroying their military assets and bases isn’t a better idea? That way, you stop them, but also are not killling the global market

Your way, we spill blood and treasure.

My way, we pay more at the gas pump.

We put the squeeze on them first.

If that doesn't work, THEN, maybe, we can hit them harder and differently.