CNN immediately claims Manhattan shooter was WHITE

[hadit]

I did that in post 128.

This is why I don't normally do links. You guys don't read them.

I read your mother jones link. There was no marketing to crazies.

Well, I've given several examples of other fields where it works just fine.

For instance, when I applied for my current job, they checked my credit history, confirmed my past employment, called a former boss and several coworkers to get recommendations, and made me piss in a bottle to make sure I wasn't on illicit substances. And they did this twice, once when I was under a temp-to-hire contract and again when I was brought on full time.

I recently sponsored my wife for residency. We both underwent thorough background checks, had to submit 200 pages of documentation, and she had to undergo a medical exam. We both had to submit testimonials about our relationship, they fingerprinted her. And we had to provide pictures of us together over the course of our relationship. Now, this was despite the fact that she had already been granted a green card under political asylum and had been living here for 7 years.

When I applied for my mortgage, despite having a credit score north of 800, I had to submit my tax returns for the last three years, financials on my business, all my credit card accounts, etc. Forget that I had a mortgage for 17 years which I regularly paid on and another that I paid off over 13 years.

When I applied for a FOID Card. Paid them $11.00. Sent them a picture. Filled out one form. Laughed hysterically when some ammosexual tells me how tough the gun laws in Illinois are.

You have no constitutional right to a job. You do have a constitutional right to own a firearm. Think of voting. You don't even want voters to present an ID when they vote, something that you can't function in society without.

 

[JoeB131]

I read your mother jones link. There was no marketing to crazies.

Read it again. If you think these are appeals to sane people, I'd have to question your sanity.

You have no constitutional right to a job. You do have a constitutional right to own a firearm. Think of voting. You don't even want voters to present an ID when they vote, something that you can't function in society without.

The Second Amendment is about militias.

Voter ID is about voter suppression and is a violation of the 15th and 24th Amendments.

 

[22lcidw]

Read it again. If you think these are appeals to sane people, I'd have to question your sanity.



The Second Amendment is about militias.

Voter ID is about voter suppression and is a violation of the 15th and 24th Amendments.

The Founding Fathers were adamant of those who vote. We do not have to like it. And we know it had to be expanded. Unfortunately, it expanded when we went from a precious metal backed currency to a fiat currency. We now have corrupted political parties with a general population that can vote the potential abuse of a fiat currency, and it is.

 

[hadit]

Read it again. If you think these are appeals to sane people, I'd have to question your sanity.

Find me one that urges buyers to go out and shoot up some place.

The Second Amendment is about militias.

Yeah, yeah, we've been through that before. The Supreme Court disagrees with you, but you think you know better because you have a headline.

Voter ID is about voter suppression and is a violation of the 15th and 24th Amendments.

It's not, but you're conditioned to believe it is and won't change your mind, just like you continue to believe that Kyle Rittenhouse went out hunting black people that night and is a murderer.

 

[j-mac]

I did that in post 128.

This is why I don't normally do links. You guys don't read them.

You’re first mistake is believing anything from Mother Jones.

Well, I've given several examples of other fields where it works just fine.

For instance, when I applied for my current job, they checked my credit history, confirmed my past employment, called a former boss and several coworkers to get recommendations, and made me piss in a bottle to make sure I wasn't on illicit substances. And they did this twice, once when I was under a temp-to-hire contract and again when I was brought on full time.

I recently sponsored my wife for residency. We both underwent thorough background checks, had to submit 200 pages of documentation, and she had to undergo a medical exam. We both had to submit testimonials about our relationship, they fingerprinted her. And we had to provide pictures of us together over the course of our relationship. Now, this was despite the fact that she had already been granted a green card under political asylum and had been living here for 7 years.

When I applied for my mortgage, despite having a credit score north of 800, I had to submit my tax returns for the last three years, financials on my business, all my credit card accounts, etc. Forget that I had a mortgage for 17 years which I regularly paid on and another that I paid off over 13 years.

When I applied for a FOID Card. Paid them $11.00. Sent them a picture. Filled out one form. Laughed hysterically when some ammosexual tells me how tough the gun laws in Illinois are.

LOL, you can mandate a piss test, when you advocate that for welfare recipients…

 

[SeaMajor7]

Yeah in NYC,
let's have that discussion!

Obtaining a gun license in New York City is notoriously difficult due to strict regulations and extensive background checks. The process involves multiple steps, including online application, fingerprinting, background checks, and potentially, interviews. Furthermore, the NYPD is known for its thoroughness in evaluating applicants.
1. Eligibility:

• Age:
  Applicants must be 21 years of age or older.
• Residency:
  Applicants must reside or have a principal place of business within New York City.
• • Background:
    Applicants must not have been convicted of a felony or serious offense, be a fugitive from justice, or be subject to a protective court order.
  • Mental Health:
    Applicants must be free from any mental disorders that would impair their ability to safely possess or use a firearm.

2. Application Process:

• • Online Application: The NYPD License Division primarily accepts online applications for handgun licenses.
• 
  
• Fingerprinting and Background Checks: Applicants will be fingerprinted and undergo a background check.
• 
  
• Required Documents: Applicants need to provide various documents, including proof of residency, identification, and potentially, a letter of necessity.
• 
  
• Fees: Application and fingerprint fees apply.
• 
  
• Interviews: Some applicants may be required to attend an interview with the licensing officer.

3. Training and Restrictions:

• • Firearms Safety Course:
    While not always mandated for all licenses, completing a firearms safety course may be required by some counties or for specific license types.
  • Specific Restrictions:
    Licenses may have restrictions, such as carrying only during hunting or target practice.
  • Sensitive Locations:
    New York City has specific locations where carrying firearms is prohibited, such as schools and courthouses.

4. Recertification:

• • Recertification Requirements: Concealed carry permits require recertification every three years, while premises-restricted permits require recertification every five years.
  • Online Recertification: Recertification is done online through the New York State Police website.

Completely unconstitutional.

 

[Frankenstein]

Completely unconstitutional.

Yeah Joe B dropped out after that little post, friggin coward!

 

[JoeB131]

LOL, you can mandate a piss test, when you advocate that for welfare recipients…

No one is going to die from getting a welfare check.

If I had to pee in a bottle to get a job, gun nuts can pee in a bottle to get a gun.

 

[j-mac]

No one is going to die from getting a welfare check.

If I had to pee in a bottle to get a job, gun nuts can pee in a bottle to get a gun.

So, then welfare recipients can do the same to get their benefits, right?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

One of the victims was a top exec at BlackRock Weslesy LePatner

Hmmmmm

Was this a hit?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

No one is going to die from getting a welfare check.

If I had to pee in a bottle to get a job, gun nuts can pee in a bottle to get a gun.

...shall not be infringed

 

[JoeB131]

So, then welfare recipients can do the same to get their benefits, right?

Not really. IN fact, quite the opposite. They can claim their substance abuse is a disability and get more benefits.


You didn't think this through at all, did you?

...shall not be infringed

...well-regulated militia...

 

[j-mac]

Not really. IN fact, quite the opposite. They can claim their substance abuse is a disability and get more benefits.


You didn't think this through at all, did you?



...well-regulated militia...

The right of the people…

Why do you want to take guns from law abiding citizens?

 

[JoeB131]

The right of the people…

Why do you want to take guns from law abiding citizens?

Because they don't need them.

Because we have 43,000 gun deaths and 70,000 gun injuries every year.

 

[j-mac]

Because they don't need them.

Who are you to decide that?

Because we have 43,000 gun deaths and 70,000 gun injuries every year.

More killed in car crashes, should we take the cars too?

 

[JoeB131]

Who are you to decide that?

More killed in car crashes, should we take the cars too?

I'm someone who is sick and tired of living in a place where we have to have metal detectors in our schools because the Gun Industry is handing out guns like door prizes.

No, more people are not killed in car crashes.

In fact, it's slightly less.

But if you want to use that standard, to operate a car, you must be licensed, insured, registered and we have a whole division of police who exist to enforce traffic laws.

Let's do that with guns.

 

[j-mac]

I'm someone who is sick and tired of living in a place where we have to have metal detectors in our schools because the Gun Industry is handing out guns like door prizes.

No, more people are not killed in car crashes.

In fact, it's slightly less.

But if you want to use that standard, to operate a car, you must be licensed, insured, registered and we have a whole division of police who exist to enforce traffic laws.

Let's do that with guns.

We’re already there dummy…I have to apply for my license to carry every 5 years. And, as a responsible gun owner, I carry insurance for it, in the case I have to use it.

You’re sick and tired of people having rights, move.

 

[JoeB131]

We’re already there dummy…I have to apply for my license to carry every 5 years. And, as a responsible gun owner, I carry insurance for it, in the case I have to use it.

You have to have a license to carry, not to own.
And insurance is voluntary.

Again, let's treat guns like cars, and we'd have a lot less problems.

You’re sick and tired of people having rights, move.

We are less free because of guns.

Metal Detectors
Active Shooter drills
Militarized, trigger-happy police
Security doors in our workplaces (I've often noticed that the worse the management is in a company, the more security doors they have internally!)
Requiring kids to have transparent backpacks so they don't bring guns into the school.

the rest of us are forced to put with quite a lot for you guys to compensate for your... shortcomings.

 

[OODA_Loop]

The Second Amendment is about militias.

Not according to the Supreme Court. See Heller

 

[JoeB131]

Not according to the Supreme Court. See Heller

Why did it take 200 years to decide that is what it said?

You would think that it would have been obvious a lot sooner than that.