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yep. unbiased info doesn't exist anymore so here we are filling in the gaps with our own fears of "the other side". that said i am still not sure what trump actually did as the Ukrainian Gov has said he did nothing wrong.not pretending anything, gator. asking questions to try and understand. if i'm wrong, i'll learn and understand and adjust. also, when talking to slade i try to make sure HE AND I are on the same baseline and your coming in to shout really wasn't the intention of my reply TO HIM.so "do what we want or you don't get the money" is a valid tactic? no opinion just yet, looking for a baseline that we can apply evenly to all events.
Valid? Who the fuck knows but it sure is common and has been going on as long as I have been alive.
I remember the Fed Govt saying to the state of Florida...”raise your drinking age or you don’t get highway money”.
Why do you seem to be pretending this is something new?
the feds do a lot i've likely never understood or cared about. as i get older, i tend to care more. this does mean backtracking a lot and having to understand what is common and not so common for the actions of our elected officials.
why do you seem hellbent on cornering me so you can do whatever the fuck this is?
Just seemed odd you did not know about this tactic from our government. They do it all the time with both states and other countries.
Trump has been using this tactic to get Central American countries to help stop illegal immigration.
i ignored a lot growing up. i'm sure it is something we do a lot of and in my digging to date, there is zero known connection to bidens son. there *was* a conflict of interest for said son to be there, but nothing is proven that was what the withholding was centered on. that seems speculation from the right.
just like speculation from the left trump did something wrong also.
people are hunting for OTHERS to be wrong and look for it everywhere, regardless of reality. lord i hate these times we've created for ourselves.
It is all speculation. Here is my take on it...
There was a huge conflict of interest in regards to Biden, but there was also legitimate concerns about the prosecutor from multiple counties that had nothing to do with Biden.
I do not see how Trump has the same alibi, I can think of no non-political reason for him to demand they investigate Biden and his son.
yep. unbiased info doesn't exist anymore so here we are filling in the gaps with our own fears of "the other side". that said i am still not sure what trump actually did as the Ukrainian Gov has said he did nothing wrong.not pretending anything, gator. asking questions to try and understand. if i'm wrong, i'll learn and understand and adjust. also, when talking to slade i try to make sure HE AND I are on the same baseline and your coming in to shout really wasn't the intention of my reply TO HIM.Valid? Who the fuck knows but it sure is common and has been going on as long as I have been alive.
I remember the Fed Govt saying to the state of Florida...”raise your drinking age or you don’t get highway money”.
Why do you seem to be pretending this is something new?
the feds do a lot i've likely never understood or cared about. as i get older, i tend to care more. this does mean backtracking a lot and having to understand what is common and not so common for the actions of our elected officials.
why do you seem hellbent on cornering me so you can do whatever the fuck this is?
Just seemed odd you did not know about this tactic from our government. They do it all the time with both states and other countries.
Trump has been using this tactic to get Central American countries to help stop illegal immigration.
i ignored a lot growing up. i'm sure it is something we do a lot of and in my digging to date, there is zero known connection to bidens son. there *was* a conflict of interest for said son to be there, but nothing is proven that was what the withholding was centered on. that seems speculation from the right.
just like speculation from the left trump did something wrong also.
people are hunting for OTHERS to be wrong and look for it everywhere, regardless of reality. lord i hate these times we've created for ourselves.
It is all speculation. Here is my take on it...
There was a huge conflict of interest in regards to Biden, but there was also legitimate concerns about the prosecutor from multiple counties that had nothing to do with Biden.
I do not see how Trump has the same alibi, I can think of no non-political reason for him to demand they investigate Biden and his son.
sounds like both sides are trying to turd-drop on the other.
sounds like they had a lot to lose if they went against biden also. $1.8 billion to start.yep. unbiased info doesn't exist anymore so here we are filling in the gaps with our own fears of "the other side". that said i am still not sure what trump actually did as the Ukrainian Gov has said he did nothing wrong.not pretending anything, gator. asking questions to try and understand. if i'm wrong, i'll learn and understand and adjust. also, when talking to slade i try to make sure HE AND I are on the same baseline and your coming in to shout really wasn't the intention of my reply TO HIM.
the feds do a lot i've likely never understood or cared about. as i get older, i tend to care more. this does mean backtracking a lot and having to understand what is common and not so common for the actions of our elected officials.
why do you seem hellbent on cornering me so you can do whatever the fuck this is?
Just seemed odd you did not know about this tactic from our government. They do it all the time with both states and other countries.
Trump has been using this tactic to get Central American countries to help stop illegal immigration.
i ignored a lot growing up. i'm sure it is something we do a lot of and in my digging to date, there is zero known connection to bidens son. there *was* a conflict of interest for said son to be there, but nothing is proven that was what the withholding was centered on. that seems speculation from the right.
just like speculation from the left trump did something wrong also.
people are hunting for OTHERS to be wrong and look for it everywhere, regardless of reality. lord i hate these times we've created for ourselves.
It is all speculation. Here is my take on it...
There was a huge conflict of interest in regards to Biden, but there was also legitimate concerns about the prosecutor from multiple counties that had nothing to do with Biden.
I do not see how Trump has the same alibi, I can think of no non-political reason for him to demand they investigate Biden and his son.
sounds like both sides are trying to turd-drop on the other.
Two things about the Ukrainian government....
1. It is not their call if Trump broke our rules.
2. They have a lot to loose if they go against Trump.
I just heard trump take some questions on it. Seems like he is going to the narrative that he did speak to the president about Biden. He did so because corruption is a very important thing and he has every right to talk to other countries about corruption. That’s what we are going to hear develop over the next couple weekssounds like they had a lot to lose if they went against biden also. $1.8 billion to start.yep. unbiased info doesn't exist anymore so here we are filling in the gaps with our own fears of "the other side". that said i am still not sure what trump actually did as the Ukrainian Gov has said he did nothing wrong.Just seemed odd you did not know about this tactic from our government. They do it all the time with both states and other countries.
Trump has been using this tactic to get Central American countries to help stop illegal immigration.
i ignored a lot growing up. i'm sure it is something we do a lot of and in my digging to date, there is zero known connection to bidens son. there *was* a conflict of interest for said son to be there, but nothing is proven that was what the withholding was centered on. that seems speculation from the right.
just like speculation from the left trump did something wrong also.
people are hunting for OTHERS to be wrong and look for it everywhere, regardless of reality. lord i hate these times we've created for ourselves.
It is all speculation. Here is my take on it...
There was a huge conflict of interest in regards to Biden, but there was also legitimate concerns about the prosecutor from multiple counties that had nothing to do with Biden.
I do not see how Trump has the same alibi, I can think of no non-political reason for him to demand they investigate Biden and his son.
sounds like both sides are trying to turd-drop on the other.
Two things about the Ukrainian government....
1. It is not their call if Trump broke our rules.
2. They have a lot to loose if they go against Trump.
again - not defending trump - only trying to sort through actions w/o names to help push in one way or another. i may well be way off base but hopefully i'll come around to who's zoomin who soon enough.
/----/ The DNC needs to take out Crazy Joe. This is the first shot:What I’m the world are you talking about?! Sounds like you spend way too much time in the conspiracy theory forumThe leak of the Biden/Ukraine issue was probably done by one of his opponents. It hurts him most.
One has to wonder though, why would Obama NOT support Biden or want him to run? Did he engage in similar tactics against Joe that he used against Trump and wouldn't want him to have access to such information if he ever became president? Was Obama made aware that Biden was on the take from a foreign power and this, doesn't want him in a position of authority?
There is more intrigue surrounding the Democrat nominee than anything else. The world must not have a socialist America, Trump is the only guy bringing China to their knees, the job must be completed. Four more years.
Made up crimes isnt a very strong argument/----/ The DNC needs to take out Crazy Joe. This is the first shot:What I’m the world are you talking about?! Sounds like you spend way too much time in the conspiracy theory forumThe leak of the Biden/Ukraine issue was probably done by one of his opponents. It hurts him most.
One has to wonder though, why would Obama NOT support Biden or want him to run? Did he engage in similar tactics against Joe that he used against Trump and wouldn't want him to have access to such information if he ever became president? Was Obama made aware that Biden was on the take from a foreign power and this, doesn't want him in a position of authority?
There is more intrigue surrounding the Democrat nominee than anything else. The world must not have a socialist America, Trump is the only guy bringing China to their knees, the job must be completed. Four more years.
Media Knives Come Out: ABC Hits Joe Biden and Son's Suspect Dealings in Ukraine and China
sounds like they had a lot to lose if they went against biden also. $1.8 billion to start.
again - not defending trump - only trying to sort through actions w/o names to help push in one way or another. i may well be way off base but hopefully i'll come around to who's zoomin who soon enough.
/----/ You mean like Trump Russia collusion? You mean that kind of made up crime?Made up crimes isnt a very strong argument/----/ The DNC needs to take out Crazy Joe. This is the first shot:What I’m the world are you talking about?! Sounds like you spend way too much time in the conspiracy theory forumThe leak of the Biden/Ukraine issue was probably done by one of his opponents. It hurts him most.
One has to wonder though, why would Obama NOT support Biden or want him to run? Did he engage in similar tactics against Joe that he used against Trump and wouldn't want him to have access to such information if he ever became president? Was Obama made aware that Biden was on the take from a foreign power and this, doesn't want him in a position of authority?
There is more intrigue surrounding the Democrat nominee than anything else. The world must not have a socialist America, Trump is the only guy bringing China to their knees, the job must be completed. Four more years.
Media Knives Come Out: ABC Hits Joe Biden and Son's Suspect Dealings in Ukraine and China
