Clippers Owner Donald Sterling Tells Girlfriend: Don’t Bring Black People

Imagine if race was inserted into every situation.

Why did the Manning family have a problem with the San Diego Chargers? Was it because Spanos is Hispanic?

Why wouldn't Oprah allow Sarah Palin on her show? Was it because she's white, or was it because she's a Christian, or both?
 
Then why are you Democrats only now making a big deal out of him?

lol
I'm not a democrat and you obviously don't live in Southern California.

We've been trashing that prick for the last 20 years.

I thought he was an idiot back in the 70s.

But the same folks are up to this bs once again:

Al Sharpton
Spike Lee
Barack Obama


This is a staged event intended to get out the black vote. Blacks are saying this is an Earth shattering event.

Bull shit

As Marcellus Whiley said this morning on ESPN, this is an opportunity to effect change. To change what?

This is an opportunity to bash the man, nothing more.
 
Then why are you Democrats only now making a big deal out of him?

lol
I'm not a democrat and you obviously don't live in Southern California.

We've been trashing that prick for the last 20 years.

I thought he was an idiot back in the 70s.

But the same folks are up to this bs once again:

Al Sharpton
Spike Lee
Barack Obamaj


This is a staged event intended to get out the black vote. Blacks are saying this is an Earth shattering event.

Bull shit

As Marcellus Whiley said this morning on ESPN, this is an opportunity to effect change. To change what?

This is an opportunity to bash the man, nothing more.
 
Sterling could not have gone against franchise policy. There is no franchise policy mandating what thoughts someone must have. He did nothing except shower blacks with money. The players, the black girlfriend, numerous black organizations all got millions.

Having and expressing an opinion is not illegal and not against any written franchise policy.
 
Then why are you Democrats only now making a big deal out of him?

lol
I'm not a democrat and you obviously don't live in Southern California.

We've been trashing that prick for the last 20 years.

I thought he was an idiot back in the 70s.

But the same folks are up to this bs once again:

Al Sharpton
Spike Lee
Barack Obamaj


This is a staged event intended to get out the black vote. Blacks are saying this is an Earth shattering event.

Bull shit

As Marcellus Whiley said this morning on ESPN, this is an opportunity to effect change. To change what?

This is an opportunity to bash the man, nothing more.

And such a good opportunity, it bears repeating!

:D
 
Sterling could not have gone against franchise policy. There is no franchise policy mandating what thoughts someone must have. He did nothing except shower blacks with money. The players, the black girlfriend, numerous black organizations all got millions.

Having and expressing an opinion is not illegal and not against any written franchise policy.

Uh, not quite. He's been screwing over blacks for many years and actually paid the biggest fine in history for his slum rentals.

Not everyone is happy about his racism though -

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Hi Guno:
After reading through what he said, or the excerpts of it,
I read more a "sexist" tone of talking down to the woman
and talking down about other men and people as a way of
establishing pecking order and authority as a "male."

I think that sexism favoring his view over hers is predominant,
and then race or religion or whatever label he puts on people
he considers "less important or equal as himself" is clung to, in that context
and for that purpose.

His unwillingness to change his mind or change how HE is,
which he justifies by saying 'that's how it is in society, everyone does it'
sounds more like a male thing first, and then racism by groups as a result.

I already heard some other men talking about this issue as
"low-hanging fruit" for the media and others to jump all over as an "easy target."

So even the response by other men shows how they respect and forgive
other people whom they align with as part of their own social group or class,
but they will jump on any man or any one who "threatens" their authority.

I would like to see the sexism and racism addressed at the same time,
to see if that is more effective in resolving why he used those words to
talk down to the woman (and talk down about others by race) in this way.

It sounds to me like he was using race
and his words to "establish territory" and dominance.

I especially found that comment about "you can FU him" to be sexist.
So that's where it dawned on me that he may have been expressing that
first and then it colors his views and attitudes towards "other men by race."

This gave me insight about other men I have trouble working and talking with
because they project so much, trying to defend their territory. They talk down to me, often without
realizing it, as my views being different is seen as outside influence or change
coming from "some other group" they don't relate to or may have taken issue with to attack to defend their ground.

All people make associations by group,
but the way men think to be autonomous, and separate what is their jurisdiction and territory
from other people or groups, this can become especially pronounced.

This is interesting to me, because I had feminist friends tell me nonstop that
the gender issues trump racism and any other form of class division or oppression.

And I didn't believe them; I thought it depended on the person.
But over and over, I see that people's gender colors how we perceive, related, interact and communicate.

And within those parameters, then the race, class, religion and other group labels are added
as additional layers and divisions.

This is very interesting; and I didn't expect to get anything meaningful
out of "just another story" complaining about someone's racist remarks.

This actually revealed a lot, and confirmed what other people had told me,
and why I can't always get anywhere with how people think.
I don't think it is their fault more than mine when I do this;
I think we do need to be aware how we all do this in different ways.
We can all benefit from this realization.

Wow, I think about terrible things I thought about saying out of anger and frustration with people,
and I could sound just as awful (relatively speaking/compared with the norm for me) as this man or Clive Bundy.

I've been driven to that point, and the only thing that stopped me from saying really God awful
things was my friends understood how frustrated I was and counseled me not to say those things.

If these men had friends like I do, who understand exactly why and what I want to say those things,
and forgive me anyway so I can vent it out, maybe they wouldn't make mistakes in public.

This makes me grateful for my friends.
Everyone should have friends you can say whatever-the-hell to, and they will
still let you work it out and not hold it against you to make the problems worse. Wow.

To my games
Donald Sterling, the owner of the NBA’s Los Angeles Clippers, told his girlfriend not to post pictures on Instagram of herself with black people and not to bring black people to his basketball games, according to an audio recording posted by TMZ.
In the recording, Sterling and his girlfriend are fighting over a picture she posted to Instagram of herself with NBA legend Magic Johnson, and Sterling demands that she stop “broadcasting” that she associates with black people. Sterling tells his girlfriend: “You can sleep with [black people]. You can bring them in, you can do whatever you want. The little I ask you is not to promote it on that … and not to bring them to my games.”
Later, he makes the point specifically about Magic Johnson, telling her that “it’s too bad you can’t admire (Johnson) privately…bring him here, feed him, f*** him, I don’t care. You can do anything. But don’t put him on an Instagram for the world to see so they have to call me. And don’t bring him to my games. OK?”

I hope he loses his franchise or people don't buy tickets to his games


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Clippers Owner Donald Sterling Tells Girlfriend: Don't Bring Black People To My Games | ThinkProgress
 
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This Sterling guy---seems to be 'insane'---all I can conclude after hearing more of his beliefs about anything and everything.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2...tty-picture/jZx4v3EWUFdLYh9c289ODL/story.html

I assume his legal counsel has said --'Keep your mouth shut.' No further comments from him. The NBA will hold a news conference today to respond.

30 something sponsors have withdrawn support. Beyond any other consequence this would seem to make the greatest impact on what Sterling 'should' do.

How anyone could make the sort of comments he made --knowing that the chances of making front page news were almost certain---I don't know.

A glimpse into a rather nasty world of the ultra rich. It sounds like Sterling and his wife were slumlords---and had the sort of marriage in which having a girlfriend wasn't a dealbreaker. And so on. The kind of people who might illustrate the axiom--'Money doesn't buy happiness.' To say the least.

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In response to the previous poster--'sexism and racism, etc'

This man seems to lack a soul. Yes--of course, he feels superior to everyone. Beyond all cultural mores.

When Mel Gibson made the news with similar--but less detailed remarks---some of his ideas which apparently he learned or developed from his father's philosophies were equally as 'out there.' ???
 
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The man is 81 years old. His wife is comfortable enough not to have to sleep with him. He can pay for it.
 
Sterling could not have gone against franchise policy. There is no franchise policy mandating what thoughts someone must have. He did nothing except shower blacks with money. The players, the black girlfriend, numerous black organizations all got millions.

Having and expressing an opinion is not illegal and not against any written franchise policy.

Uh, not quite. He's been screwing over blacks for many years and actually paid the biggest fine in history for his slum rentals.

Not everyone is happy about his racism though -

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I don't think anyone is happy, but many are happy to pile on with these race-peddlers.
 
DS showed he's an ignorant racist. So what? I'm sure he's not the only person associated with the NBA to be racist. Force him to sell his team and move on. By the way ex-player Larry Johnson made the comment blacks should start their own league. Isn't that just as bad as what DS said? Why is that not getting any attention.
 
Sterling could not have gone against franchise policy. There is no franchise policy mandating what thoughts someone must have. He did nothing except shower blacks with money. The players, the black girlfriend, numerous black organizations all got millions.

Having and expressing an opinion is not illegal and not against any written franchise policy.

"Showering blacks with money" is one thing.
Even Bush oversaw billions in FEMA handed out as vouchers to Katrina evacuees,
without providing counseling or assistance to make sure people got help they needed
to invest it in longterm plans.

It's another thing to believe so much in addressing disparity
that you help blacks/minorities/women to invest in longterm property
that pays for itself. This is how the wealthy get wealthier, using loans
to leverage credit and financing to get ahead of the curve.

Who is teaching this?

I watched proposals for setting up programs to teach this
go unfunded and unsupported, while the same people and political parties
fund "other people to get into office" to keep the same class division going.

Nothing is changing.

And instead of protesting or investing in that,
people complain about verbal comments?

I saw Oprah invest her own money into building schools, but in Africa.
Where is the effort to invest in land ownership and teaching wealth building
in America?

I tried to set up a plan, and got ZERO response. Just a few volunteers here and there, always the ones without any money. But when it comes to people with money and power, people like JayZ and Beyoncé are giving it to OBAMA who borrowed 15 million and spent 6 billion running for office.

And then campaigns for help from volunteers, nonprofits, and taxpayers
to help Vets, to help Blacks and end the disparity.

What about the millions if not billions of dollars that go into political campaigns?

I saw Cornell West protest Obama for this, but no one paid attention.
But they just all over Donald Sterling and Ted Nugent.

I am really looking at this phenomenon as some territorial/class issue between men.
I hope the men leaders can find common ground to unite around, and quit this
partisan or class warfare of "divide and conquer."

If the men quit doing it to each other in groups, I think the other people who follow them will also quit. Some kind of pecking order/pack mentality hierarchical pattern, reinforced by bullying by coercion or exclusion.

I've run into it, over and over, trying to resolve issues in the community around me; and the main sticking points whenever a problem or conflict couldn't be resolved always seems to be people who "can't work with some other person or group" and draws a line in the sand. When women hit this limit, they are more often coerced to override it anyway; I long told people I could not keep supporting everything while they don't resolve their conflicts and keep putting it on me, but they keep putting it on me because they expect women to help everyone else. But when men hit their limit and say "this is how it's going to be," people back them up and build whole teams around it to reinforce and follow that.

I'm really beginning to see my friends were right who said addressing the gender biases in people (where both men AND women will undervalue the opinions and work of women as less than equal with men, it's not just men doing this!) is the first step to ending oppression in all other forms. Maybe they were right, unbelievable! I really thought people were above that, but maybe we're not. Maybe it is that simple!
 
DS showed he's an ignorant racist. So what? I'm sure he's not the only person associated with the NBA to be racist. Force him to sell his team and move on. By the way ex-player Larry Johnson made the comment blacks should start their own league. Isn't that just as bad as what DS said? Why is that not getting any attention.

Because blacks are oppressed. They cannot be racist.
 
Sterling could not have gone against franchise policy. There is no franchise policy mandating what thoughts someone must have. He did nothing except shower blacks with money. The players, the black girlfriend, numerous black organizations all got millions.

Having and expressing an opinion is not illegal and not against any written franchise policy.

"Showering blacks with money" is one thing.
Even Bush oversaw billions in FEMA handed out as vouchers to Katrina evacuees,
without providing counseling or assistance to make sure people got help they needed
to invest it in longterm plans.

It's another thing to believe so much in addressing disparity
that you help blacks/minorities/women to invest in longterm property
that pays for itself. This is how the wealthy get wealthier, using loans
to leverage credit and financing to get ahead of the curve.

Who is teaching this?

I watched proposals for setting up programs to teach this
go unfunded and unsupported, while the same people and political parties
fund "other people to get into office" to keep the same class division going.

Nothing is changing.

And instead of protesting or investing in that,
people complain about verbal comments?

I saw Oprah invest her own money into building schools, but in Africa.
Where is the effort to invest in land ownership and teaching wealth building
in America?

I tried to set up a plan, and got ZERO response. Just a few volunteers here and there, always the ones without any money. But when it comes to people with money and power, people like JayZ and Beyoncé are giving it to OBAMA who borrowed 15 million and spent 6 billion running for office.

And then campaigns for help from volunteers, nonprofits, and taxpayers
to help Vets, to help Blacks and end the disparity.

What about the millions if not billions of dollars that go into political campaigns?

I saw Cornell West protest Obama for this, but no one paid attention.
But they just all over Donald Sterling and Ted Nugent.

I am really looking at this phenomenon as some territorial/class issue between men.
I hope the men leaders can find common ground to unite around, and quit this
partisan or class warfare of "divide and conquer."

If the men quit doing it to each other in groups, I think the other people who follow them will also quit. Some kind of pecking order/pack mentality hierarchical pattern, reinforced by bullying by coercion or exclusion.

I've run into it, over and over, trying to resolve issues in the community around me; and the main sticking points whenever a problem or conflict couldn't be resolved always seems to be people who "can't work with some other person or group" and draws a line in the sand. When women hit this limit, they are more often coerced to override it anyway; I long told people I could not keep supporting everything while they don't resolve their conflicts and keep putting it on me, but they keep putting it on me because they expect women to help everyone else. But when men hit their limit and say "this is how it's going to be," people back them up and build whole teams around it to reinforce and follow that.

I'm really beginning to see my friends were right who said addressing the gender biases in people (where both men AND women will undervalue the opinions and work of women as less than equal with men, it's not just men doing this!) is the first step to ending oppression in all other forms. Maybe they were right, unbelievable! I really thought people were above that, but maybe we're not. Maybe it is that simple!

I remember Cornell West's statements. Nobody wanted to touch it.

Instead they listen to the Sharptons of the world, because it's easy.

Racism used to be just a money racket for hustlers. Now it's in the white house. Everyone was warned about this possibility in 2008. Most didn't listen.
 
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The man is 81 years old. His wife is comfortable enough not to have to sleep with him. He can pay for it.

He would go last on my list regardless of his financial assets.

Such a pathetic conversation. At one point--'the beautiful girlfriend' said--'I am mixed and you love me'---and so much more. It sounded contrived---and I dislike them both---all --would have preferred not to know of this family.

Would also prefer that CNN stop agonizing over---'Is this typical of most Americans?'

Time to really take some surveys and analyze data all over again. The responses could be 'deceptive'---but surely there are those among us who can design instruments to reveal the truth.

If it would help---I can verify that those with whom I associate do not share the beliefs of Donald Sterling---some are Liberal and some are Conservative---never have heard ideas comparable to his expressed by anyone.
 
DS showed he's an ignorant racist. So what? I'm sure he's not the only person associated with the NBA to be racist. Force him to sell his team and move on. By the way ex-player Larry Johnson made the comment blacks should start their own league. Isn't that just as bad as what DS said? Why is that not getting any attention.

Probably because its not a bad thing. Whats bad about Black people starting their own league? it promotes ownership and they would not have to play for racists with a slave owner mentality. I cant imagine how this is screwing with their heads playing for a retard like that.
 
The man is 81 years old. His wife is comfortable enough not to have to sleep with him. He can pay for it.

He would go last on my list regardless of his financial assets.

Such a pathetic conversation. At one point--'the beautiful girlfriend' said--'I am mixed and you love me'---and so much more. It sounded contrived---and I dislike them both---all --would have preferred not to know of this family.

Would also prefer that CNN stop agonizing over---'Is this typical of most Americans?'

Time to really take some surveys and analyze data all over again. The responses could be 'deceptive'---but surely there are those among us who can design instruments to reveal the truth.

If it would help---I can verify that those with whom I associate do not share the beliefs of Donald Sterling---some are Liberal and some are Conservative---never have heard ideas comparable to his expressed by anyone.

Unfortunately the skank is not just an innocent victim. She knew he was married and obviously its about the money for her. She is disgusting in my view. i dont think a survey would work because lots of people dont even know they are prejudiced. Most deny white privilege exists so they wont be able to see racism in themselves. You never know about your associates until a situation comes up. When I was in the military I had a white friend from the south that got visibly upset when a pretty white girl I knew from another base walked up and gave me a kiss. We talked about it later and he told me he just thought race mixing was wrong. He couldn't explain why he felt like that. Needless to say we stopped being friends.
 
Interesting background here.
Magic Johnson is a close friend of the girl in question. Could Magic have put this whole controversy together to enable him to buy the Clippers? Something he has been after for awhile?
Seems that Magic Johnson is in the middle of this controversy
Magic Johnson ?Wants to Buy? Los Angeles Clippers from Donald Sterling - TIME
There is way too much that has yet to come out about this setup.
 
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