Clinton Lie # 5,629,997, 17 Intel Agencies Know That Russia Hacked DNC Emails

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This was obvious bullshit from the git-go, but not for brain addled Democrats.

You can literally pick anyone you prefer to believe is hacking all this and be just as probably right as any other guess.

Trump Was Right: Hackers ‘Could Be Anybody’

Among all the other lies told at the final presidential debate, the one that most violently leaped out at me is this nonsense about “17 of our top intelligence agencies name Russia as the hacker in support of the Trump presidency.” While some or even all of the U.S. intel guys might believe or think that Russia is behind the email hack, they cannot know for sure and if asked, they will tell you exactly that. That’s because they can’t know.

So, Donald Trump was absolutely right when he reiterated his claim that it “could be anybody.”

The top security analysts in the world (including Kaspersky Lab) all agree that attribution is impossible in today’s cybersecurity world. Blaming Russia or North Korea (for the SONY attacks) is at best dangerous — and at worst could lead directly to dramatic global consequences. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are being reckless with these accusations. They should know that it is widely held and common knowledge within the industry that all major attacks are conducted under at least one if not many sets of false flags. This is not news. This has been going on for years.

A good example of this is a cybercrime group known as the CyberCaliphate, which first appeared at the end of 2014 when it took control of the Albuquerque Journal’s mobile applications, and proceeded to broadcast propaganda apparently in support of ISIS. This takeover was followed in January 2015 by grabbing control of the United States Central Command (USCENTCOM)’s Twitter and YouTube accounts. The world believed that a new pro-ISIS hacking group had arrived, because it was promoted in that way.

Then, when French TV station TV5Monde was hacked and almost destroyed in April 2015, CyberCaliphate claimed responsibility. Since it had an established presence in the broadcast space through its alleged work at the AJ, the attribution “made sense” and the CyberCaliphate group was broadly accepted as the source.

However, it turns out that the cybersecurity forensics company FireEye discovered that an IP address associated with a different but equally nefarious group known as Sofacy had been used instead, and the attribution and blame suddenly switched from CyberCaliphate to Sofacy.

Sofacy, which is also known as APT28, Pawn Storm, Tsar Team, and Fancy Bear has been linked to Russia by another cybersecurity firm called CrowdStrike, and as a result Russia has been implicated in every attack by any of these groups since 2015. This might begin to make sense, except for a recent discovery by Kaspersky that now links Sofacy to leading Yemen Cyber Army groups, which have been operating as surrogates for ISIS in cyberattacks against Syria, the Ukraine, and Qatar outing the sale of military weapons to Yemeni and Syrian rebel groups.

None of this makes any sense. If the accusations are true, Russia would not only be operating on all sides of the Middle East conflict, but some of its cyberattacks would also be directed at one of its key allies and trading partners — Iran, who is supplying weapons to the Houthis who are fighting to overthrow the Saudi-backed government in Yemen.

What is probably true instead is that several different cyber-mercenary groups have created all of these hacking nom de plumes and are operating on behalf of anyone willing to pay the right price — including but not limited to the Russian government. We should remind ourselves amid all of this hubris that China is the master of cyber espionage and North Korea now has a formidable cyber espionage capability as well. Both countries have repeatedly attacked global targets under various false flags and masked IP addresses.
 
Among all the other lies told at the final presidential debate, the one that most violently leaped out at me is this nonsense about “17 of our top intelligence agencies name Russia as the hacker in support of the Trump presidency.” While some or even all of the U.S. intel guys might believe or think that Russia is behind the email hack, they cannot know for sure and if asked, they will tell you exactly that.

So its a lie except they do say its Russia so its not a lie
 
  • NSA Whistleblower: US Intelligence Worker Likely Behind DNC Leaks, Not Russia

    Anti Media ^ | 21 October 2016 | Alice Salles
    During the third and last presidential debate between Republican Donald Trump and Democrat Hillary Clinton, debate moderator Chris Wallace pulled a quote from a speech Clinton had given to Brazilian bankers, noting the information had been made available to the public via WikiLeaks. Instead of answering the question, Clinton blamed the Russian government for the leaks, alleging “[t]he Russian government has engaged in espionage against Americans,” hacking “American websites, American accounts of private people, of institutions … in an effort, as 17 of our intelligence agencies have confirmed, to influence our election.” Following the claim, Clinton criticized Trump for saying...
 
This was obvious bullshit from the git-go, but not for brain addled Democrats.

You can literally pick anyone you prefer to believe is hacking all this and be just as probably right as any other guess.

Trump Was Right: Hackers ‘Could Be Anybody’

Among all the other lies told at the final presidential debate, the one that most violently leaped out at me is this nonsense about “17 of our top intelligence agencies name Russia as the hacker in support of the Trump presidency.” While some or even all of the U.S. intel guys might believe or think that Russia is behind the email hack, they cannot know for sure and if asked, they will tell you exactly that. That’s because they can’t know.

So, Donald Trump was absolutely right when he reiterated his claim that it “could be anybody.”

The top security analysts in the world (including Kaspersky Lab) all agree that attribution is impossible in today’s cybersecurity world. Blaming Russia or North Korea (for the SONY attacks) is at best dangerous — and at worst could lead directly to dramatic global consequences. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are being reckless with these accusations. They should know that it is widely held and common knowledge within the industry that all major attacks are conducted under at least one if not many sets of false flags. This is not news. This has been going on for years.

A good example of this is a cybercrime group known as the CyberCaliphate, which first appeared at the end of 2014 when it took control of the Albuquerque Journal’s mobile applications, and proceeded to broadcast propaganda apparently in support of ISIS. This takeover was followed in January 2015 by grabbing control of the United States Central Command (USCENTCOM)’s Twitter and YouTube accounts. The world believed that a new pro-ISIS hacking group had arrived, because it was promoted in that way.

Then, when French TV station TV5Monde was hacked and almost destroyed in April 2015, CyberCaliphate claimed responsibility. Since it had an established presence in the broadcast space through its alleged work at the AJ, the attribution “made sense” and the CyberCaliphate group was broadly accepted as the source.

However, it turns out that the cybersecurity forensics company FireEye discovered that an IP address associated with a different but equally nefarious group known as Sofacy had been used instead, and the attribution and blame suddenly switched from CyberCaliphate to Sofacy.

Sofacy, which is also known as APT28, Pawn Storm, Tsar Team, and Fancy Bear has been linked to Russia by another cybersecurity firm called CrowdStrike, and as a result Russia has been implicated in every attack by any of these groups since 2015. This might begin to make sense, except for a recent discovery by Kaspersky that now links Sofacy to leading Yemen Cyber Army groups, which have been operating as surrogates for ISIS in cyberattacks against Syria, the Ukraine, and Qatar outing the sale of military weapons to Yemeni and Syrian rebel groups.

None of this makes any sense. If the accusations are true, Russia would not only be operating on all sides of the Middle East conflict, but some of its cyberattacks would also be directed at one of its key allies and trading partners — Iran, who is supplying weapons to the Houthis who are fighting to overthrow the Saudi-backed government in Yemen.

What is probably true instead is that several different cyber-mercenary groups have created all of these hacking nom de plumes and are operating on behalf of anyone willing to pay the right price — including but not limited to the Russian government. We should remind ourselves amid all of this hubris that China is the master of cyber espionage and North Korea now has a formidable cyber espionage capability as well. Both countries have repeatedly attacked global targets under various false flags and masked IP addresses.

Jimmie admires Trump so much that he lies even more than Trump does.

Clinton, Trump clash on Russia's role in election

On Oct. 7, however — the same day WikiLeaks released the emails of Clinton campaign chair John Podesta — the Homeland Security Department and Office of the Director of National Intelligence released a joint statement that said, "The U.S. Intelligence Community (USIC) is confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of emails from U.S. persons and institutions, including from U.S. political organizations."

The statement also said the intelligence community believes these attacks are directed from top levels of the Russian government, as Clinton said.

"We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia's senior-most officials could have authorized these activities," the statement said.

The U.S. Intelligence Community is made up of 17 agencies, forming the basis of Clinton’s claim.

The 17 agencies are: Air Force Intelligence, Army Intelligence, Central Intelligence Agency, Coast Guard Intelligence, Defense Intelligence Agency, Energy Department, Homeland Security Department, State Department, Treasury Department, Drug Enforcement Administration, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Marine Corps Intelligence, National Geospatial Intelligence Agency, National Reconnaissance Office, National Security Agency, Navy Intelligence and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
 
So funny lefties are OK with assuming when it is convenient.

We 'lefties' are OK with the facts- unlike the OP and the Right.

And the fact is that Clinton was correct.

Jimmie admires Trump so much that he lies even more than Trump does.

Clinton, Trump clash on Russia's role in election

On Oct. 7, however — the same day WikiLeaks released the emails of Clinton campaign chair John Podesta — the Homeland Security Department and Office of the Director of National Intelligence released a joint statement that said, "The U.S. Intelligence Community (USIC) is confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of emails from U.S. persons and institutions, including from U.S. political organizations."

The statement also said the intelligence community believes these attacks are directed from top levels of the Russian government, as Clinton said.

"We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia's senior-most officials could have authorized these activities," the statement said.

The U.S. Intelligence Community is made up of 17 agencies, forming the basis of Clinton’s claim.

The 17 agencies are: Air Force Intelligence, Army Intelligence, Central Intelligence Agency, Coast Guard Intelligence, Defense Intelligence Agency, Energy Department, Homeland Security Department, State Department, Treasury Department, Drug Enforcement Administration, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Marine Corps Intelligence, National Geospatial Intelligence Agency, National Reconnaissance Office, National Security Agency, Navy Intelligence and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
 
So funny lefties are OK with assuming when it is convenient.

We 'lefties' are OK with the facts- unlike the OP and the Right.

And the fact is that Clinton was correct.

Jimmie admires Trump so much that he lies even more than Trump does.

Clinton, Trump clash on Russia's role in election

On Oct. 7, however — the same day WikiLeaks released the emails of Clinton campaign chair John Podesta — the Homeland Security Department and Office of the Director of National Intelligence released a joint statement that said, "The U.S. Intelligence Community (USIC) is confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of emails from U.S. persons and institutions, including from U.S. political organizations."

The statement also said the intelligence community believes these attacks are directed from top levels of the Russian government, as Clinton said.

"We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia's senior-most officials could have authorized these activities," the statement said.

The U.S. Intelligence Community is made up of 17 agencies, forming the basis of Clinton’s claim.

The 17 agencies are: Air Force Intelligence, Army Intelligence, Central Intelligence Agency, Coast Guard Intelligence, Defense Intelligence Agency, Energy Department, Homeland Security Department, State Department, Treasury Department, Drug Enforcement Administration, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Marine Corps Intelligence, National Geospatial Intelligence Agency, National Reconnaissance Office, National Security Agency, Navy Intelligence and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
So no evidence? Hmmmm
 
So funny lefties are OK with assuming when it is convenient.

We 'lefties' are OK with the facts- unlike the OP and the Right.

And the fact is that Clinton was correct.

Jimmie admires Trump so much that he lies even more than Trump does.

Clinton, Trump clash on Russia's role in election

On Oct. 7, however — the same day WikiLeaks released the emails of Clinton campaign chair John Podesta — the Homeland Security Department and Office of the Director of National Intelligence released a joint statement that said, "The U.S. Intelligence Community (USIC) is confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of emails from U.S. persons and institutions, including from U.S. political organizations."

The statement also said the intelligence community believes these attacks are directed from top levels of the Russian government, as Clinton said.

"We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia's senior-most officials could have authorized these activities," the statement said.

The U.S. Intelligence Community is made up of 17 agencies, forming the basis of Clinton’s claim.

The 17 agencies are: Air Force Intelligence, Army Intelligence, Central Intelligence Agency, Coast Guard Intelligence, Defense Intelligence Agency, Energy Department, Homeland Security Department, State Department, Treasury Department, Drug Enforcement Administration, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Marine Corps Intelligence, National Geospatial Intelligence Agency, National Reconnaissance Office, National Security Agency, Navy Intelligence and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
So no evidence? Hmmmm

I just gave you evidence that Clinton didn't lie. Your inability to understand the evidence is not my problem.

We 'lefties' are OK with the facts- unlike the OP and the Right.

And the fact is that Clinton was correct.

Jimmie admires Trump so much that he lies even more than Trump does.

Clinton, Trump clash on Russia's role in election

On Oct. 7, however — the same day WikiLeaks released the emails of Clinton campaign chair John Podesta — the Homeland Security Department and Office of the Director of National Intelligence released a joint statement that said, "The U.S. Intelligence Community (USIC) is confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of emails from U.S. persons and institutions, including from U.S. political organizations."

The statement also said the intelligence community believes these attacks are directed from top levels of the Russian government, as Clinton said.

"We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia's senior-most officials could have authorized these activities," the statement said.

The U.S. Intelligence Community is made up of 17 agencies, forming the basis of Clinton’s claim.

The 17 agencies are: Air Force Intelligence, Army Intelligence, Central Intelligence Agency, Coast Guard Intelligence, Defense Intelligence Agency, Energy Department, Homeland Security Department, State Department, Treasury Department, Drug Enforcement Administration, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Marine Corps Intelligence, National Geospatial Intelligence Agency, National Reconnaissance Office, National Security Agency, Navy Intelligence and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
 
So funny lefties are OK with assuming when it is convenient.

We 'lefties' are OK with the facts- unlike the OP and the Right.

And the fact is that Clinton was correct.

Jimmie admires Trump so much that he lies even more than Trump does.

Clinton, Trump clash on Russia's role in election

On Oct. 7, however — the same day WikiLeaks released the emails of Clinton campaign chair John Podesta — the Homeland Security Department and Office of the Director of National Intelligence released a joint statement that said, "The U.S. Intelligence Community (USIC) is confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of emails from U.S. persons and institutions, including from U.S. political organizations."

The statement also said the intelligence community believes these attacks are directed from top levels of the Russian government, as Clinton said.

"We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia's senior-most officials could have authorized these activities," the statement said.

The U.S. Intelligence Community is made up of 17 agencies, forming the basis of Clinton’s claim.

The 17 agencies are: Air Force Intelligence, Army Intelligence, Central Intelligence Agency, Coast Guard Intelligence, Defense Intelligence Agency, Energy Department, Homeland Security Department, State Department, Treasury Department, Drug Enforcement Administration, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Marine Corps Intelligence, National Geospatial Intelligence Agency, National Reconnaissance Office, National Security Agency, Navy Intelligence and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
So no evidence? Hmmmm

I just gave you evidence that Clinton didn't lie. Your inability to understand the evidence is not my problem.

We 'lefties' are OK with the facts- unlike the OP and the Right.

And the fact is that Clinton was correct.

Jimmie admires Trump so much that he lies even more than Trump does.

Clinton, Trump clash on Russia's role in election

On Oct. 7, however — the same day WikiLeaks released the emails of Clinton campaign chair John Podesta — the Homeland Security Department and Office of the Director of National Intelligence released a joint statement that said, "The U.S. Intelligence Community (USIC) is confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of emails from U.S. persons and institutions, including from U.S. political organizations."

The statement also said the intelligence community believes these attacks are directed from top levels of the Russian government, as Clinton said.

"We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia's senior-most officials could have authorized these activities," the statement said.

The U.S. Intelligence Community is made up of 17 agencies, forming the basis of Clinton’s claim.

The 17 agencies are: Air Force Intelligence, Army Intelligence, Central Intelligence Agency, Coast Guard Intelligence, Defense Intelligence Agency, Energy Department, Homeland Security Department, State Department, Treasury Department, Drug Enforcement Administration, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Marine Corps Intelligence, National Geospatial Intelligence Agency, National Reconnaissance Office, National Security Agency, Navy Intelligence and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
So no evidence, just assumption. OK
 
So funny lefties are OK with assuming when it is convenient.

We 'lefties' are OK with the facts- unlike the OP and the Right.

And the fact is that Clinton was correct.

Jimmie admires Trump so much that he lies even more than Trump does.

Clinton, Trump clash on Russia's role in election

On Oct. 7, however — the same day WikiLeaks released the emails of Clinton campaign chair John Podesta — the Homeland Security Department and Office of the Director of National Intelligence released a joint statement that said, "The U.S. Intelligence Community (USIC) is confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of emails from U.S. persons and institutions, including from U.S. political organizations."

The statement also said the intelligence community believes these attacks are directed from top levels of the Russian government, as Clinton said.

"We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia's senior-most officials could have authorized these activities," the statement said.

The U.S. Intelligence Community is made up of 17 agencies, forming the basis of Clinton’s claim.

The 17 agencies are: Air Force Intelligence, Army Intelligence, Central Intelligence Agency, Coast Guard Intelligence, Defense Intelligence Agency, Energy Department, Homeland Security Department, State Department, Treasury Department, Drug Enforcement Administration, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Marine Corps Intelligence, National Geospatial Intelligence Agency, National Reconnaissance Office, National Security Agency, Navy Intelligence and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
So no evidence? Hmmmm

I just gave you evidence that Clinton didn't lie. Your inability to understand the evidence is not my problem.

We 'lefties' are OK with the facts- unlike the OP and the Right.

And the fact is that Clinton was correct.

Jimmie admires Trump so much that he lies even more than Trump does.

Clinton, Trump clash on Russia's role in election

On Oct. 7, however — the same day WikiLeaks released the emails of Clinton campaign chair John Podesta — the Homeland Security Department and Office of the Director of National Intelligence released a joint statement that said, "The U.S. Intelligence Community (USIC) is confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of emails from U.S. persons and institutions, including from U.S. political organizations."

The statement also said the intelligence community believes these attacks are directed from top levels of the Russian government, as Clinton said.

"We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia's senior-most officials could have authorized these activities," the statement said.

The U.S. Intelligence Community is made up of 17 agencies, forming the basis of Clinton’s claim.

The 17 agencies are: Air Force Intelligence, Army Intelligence, Central Intelligence Agency, Coast Guard Intelligence, Defense Intelligence Agency, Energy Department, Homeland Security Department, State Department, Treasury Department, Drug Enforcement Administration, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Marine Corps Intelligence, National Geospatial Intelligence Agency, National Reconnaissance Office, National Security Agency, Navy Intelligence and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
So no evidence, just assumption. OK
Evidence- not assumption- that Clinton was factual. Your inability to understand the evidence is not my problem.

We 'lefties' are OK with the facts- unlike the OP and the Right.

And the fact is that Clinton was correct.

Jimmie admires Trump so much that he lies even more than Trump does.

Clinton, Trump clash on Russia's role in election

On Oct. 7, however — the same day WikiLeaks released the emails of Clinton campaign chair John Podesta — the Homeland Security Department and Office of the Director of National Intelligence released a joint statement that said, "The U.S. Intelligence Community (USIC) is confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of emails from U.S. persons and institutions, including from U.S. political organizations."

The statement also said the intelligence community believes these attacks are directed from top levels of the Russian government, as Clinton said.

"We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia's senior-most officials could have authorized these activities," the statement said.

The U.S. Intelligence Community is made up of 17 agencies, forming the basis of Clinton’s claim.

The 17 agencies are: Air Force Intelligence, Army Intelligence, Central Intelligence Agency, Coast Guard Intelligence, Defense Intelligence Agency, Energy Department, Homeland Security Department, State Department, Treasury Department, Drug Enforcement Administration, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Marine Corps Intelligence, National Geospatial Intelligence Agency, National Reconnaissance Office, National Security Agency, Navy Intelligence and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
 
So funny lefties are OK with assuming when it is convenient.

We 'lefties' are OK with the facts- unlike the OP and the Right.

And the fact is that Clinton was correct.

Jimmie admires Trump so much that he lies even more than Trump does.

Clinton, Trump clash on Russia's role in election

On Oct. 7, however — the same day WikiLeaks released the emails of Clinton campaign chair John Podesta — the Homeland Security Department and Office of the Director of National Intelligence released a joint statement that said, "The U.S. Intelligence Community (USIC) is confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of emails from U.S. persons and institutions, including from U.S. political organizations."

The statement also said the intelligence community believes these attacks are directed from top levels of the Russian government, as Clinton said.

"We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia's senior-most officials could have authorized these activities," the statement said.

The U.S. Intelligence Community is made up of 17 agencies, forming the basis of Clinton’s claim.

The 17 agencies are: Air Force Intelligence, Army Intelligence, Central Intelligence Agency, Coast Guard Intelligence, Defense Intelligence Agency, Energy Department, Homeland Security Department, State Department, Treasury Department, Drug Enforcement Administration, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Marine Corps Intelligence, National Geospatial Intelligence Agency, National Reconnaissance Office, National Security Agency, Navy Intelligence and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
So no evidence? Hmmmm

I just gave you evidence that Clinton didn't lie. Your inability to understand the evidence is not my problem.

We 'lefties' are OK with the facts- unlike the OP and the Right.

And the fact is that Clinton was correct.

Jimmie admires Trump so much that he lies even more than Trump does.

Clinton, Trump clash on Russia's role in election

On Oct. 7, however — the same day WikiLeaks released the emails of Clinton campaign chair John Podesta — the Homeland Security Department and Office of the Director of National Intelligence released a joint statement that said, "The U.S. Intelligence Community (USIC) is confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of emails from U.S. persons and institutions, including from U.S. political organizations."

The statement also said the intelligence community believes these attacks are directed from top levels of the Russian government, as Clinton said.

"We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia's senior-most officials could have authorized these activities," the statement said.

The U.S. Intelligence Community is made up of 17 agencies, forming the basis of Clinton’s claim.

The 17 agencies are: Air Force Intelligence, Army Intelligence, Central Intelligence Agency, Coast Guard Intelligence, Defense Intelligence Agency, Energy Department, Homeland Security Department, State Department, Treasury Department, Drug Enforcement Administration, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Marine Corps Intelligence, National Geospatial Intelligence Agency, National Reconnaissance Office, National Security Agency, Navy Intelligence and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
So no evidence, just assumption. OK
Evidence- not assumption- that Clinton was factual. Your inability to understand the evidence is not my problem.

We 'lefties' are OK with the facts- unlike the OP and the Right.

And the fact is that Clinton was correct.

Jimmie admires Trump so much that he lies even more than Trump does.

Clinton, Trump clash on Russia's role in election

On Oct. 7, however — the same day WikiLeaks released the emails of Clinton campaign chair John Podesta — the Homeland Security Department and Office of the Director of National Intelligence released a joint statement that said, "The U.S. Intelligence Community (USIC) is confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of emails from U.S. persons and institutions, including from U.S. political organizations."

The statement also said the intelligence community believes these attacks are directed from top levels of the Russian government, as Clinton said.

"We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia's senior-most officials could have authorized these activities," the statement said.

The U.S. Intelligence Community is made up of 17 agencies, forming the basis of Clinton’s claim.

The 17 agencies are: Air Force Intelligence, Army Intelligence, Central Intelligence Agency, Coast Guard Intelligence, Defense Intelligence Agency, Energy Department, Homeland Security Department, State Department, Treasury Department, Drug Enforcement Administration, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Marine Corps Intelligence, National Geospatial Intelligence Agency, National Reconnaissance Office, National Security Agency, Navy Intelligence and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
so no evidence Russia is doing it, just assumption. OK
 
Among all the other lies told at the final presidential debate, the one that most violently leaped out at me is this nonsense about “17 of our top intelligence agencies name Russia as the hacker in support of the Trump presidency.” While some or even all of the U.S. intel guys might believe or think that Russia is behind the email hack, they cannot know for sure and if asked, they will tell you exactly that.

So its a lie except they do say its Russia so its not a lie

I wonder what kept the Russians from hacking Hillary's emails when she was using her private server sending and receiving classified information? My guess is that they did. Did the 17 intel agencies bother to check it out?
 
We 'lefties' are OK with the facts- unlike the OP and the Right.

And the fact is that Clinton was correct.

Jimmie admires Trump so much that he lies even more than Trump does.

Clinton, Trump clash on Russia's role in election

On Oct. 7, however — the same day WikiLeaks released the emails of Clinton campaign chair John Podesta — the Homeland Security Department and Office of the Director of National Intelligence released a joint statement that said, "The U.S. Intelligence Community (USIC) is confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of emails from U.S. persons and institutions, including from U.S. political organizations."

The statement also said the intelligence community believes these attacks are directed from top levels of the Russian government, as Clinton said.

"We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia's senior-most officials could have authorized these activities," the statement said.

The U.S. Intelligence Community is made up of 17 agencies, forming the basis of Clinton’s claim.

The 17 agencies are: Air Force Intelligence, Army Intelligence, Central Intelligence Agency, Coast Guard Intelligence, Defense Intelligence Agency, Energy Department, Homeland Security Department, State Department, Treasury Department, Drug Enforcement Administration, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Marine Corps Intelligence, National Geospatial Intelligence Agency, National Reconnaissance Office, National Security Agency, Navy Intelligence and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
So no evidence? Hmmmm

I just gave you evidence that Clinton didn't lie. Your inability to understand the evidence is not my problem.

We 'lefties' are OK with the facts- unlike the OP and the Right.

And the fact is that Clinton was correct.

Jimmie admires Trump so much that he lies even more than Trump does.

Clinton, Trump clash on Russia's role in election

On Oct. 7, however — the same day WikiLeaks released the emails of Clinton campaign chair John Podesta — the Homeland Security Department and Office of the Director of National Intelligence released a joint statement that said, "The U.S. Intelligence Community (USIC) is confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of emails from U.S. persons and institutions, including from U.S. political organizations."

The statement also said the intelligence community believes these attacks are directed from top levels of the Russian government, as Clinton said.

"We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia's senior-most officials could have authorized these activities," the statement said.

The U.S. Intelligence Community is made up of 17 agencies, forming the basis of Clinton’s claim.

The 17 agencies are: Air Force Intelligence, Army Intelligence, Central Intelligence Agency, Coast Guard Intelligence, Defense Intelligence Agency, Energy Department, Homeland Security Department, State Department, Treasury Department, Drug Enforcement Administration, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Marine Corps Intelligence, National Geospatial Intelligence Agency, National Reconnaissance Office, National Security Agency, Navy Intelligence and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
So no evidence, just assumption. OK
Evidence- not assumption- that Clinton was factual. Your inability to understand the evidence is not my problem.

We 'lefties' are OK with the facts- unlike the OP and the Right.

And the fact is that Clinton was correct.

Jimmie admires Trump so much that he lies even more than Trump does.

Clinton, Trump clash on Russia's role in election

On Oct. 7, however — the same day WikiLeaks released the emails of Clinton campaign chair John Podesta — the Homeland Security Department and Office of the Director of National Intelligence released a joint statement that said, "The U.S. Intelligence Community (USIC) is confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of emails from U.S. persons and institutions, including from U.S. political organizations."

The statement also said the intelligence community believes these attacks are directed from top levels of the Russian government, as Clinton said.

"We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia's senior-most officials could have authorized these activities," the statement said.

The U.S. Intelligence Community is made up of 17 agencies, forming the basis of Clinton’s claim.

The 17 agencies are: Air Force Intelligence, Army Intelligence, Central Intelligence Agency, Coast Guard Intelligence, Defense Intelligence Agency, Energy Department, Homeland Security Department, State Department, Treasury Department, Drug Enforcement Administration, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Marine Corps Intelligence, National Geospatial Intelligence Agency, National Reconnaissance Office, National Security Agency, Navy Intelligence and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
so no evidence Russia is doing it, just assumption. OK
The statement also said the intelligence community believes these attacks are directed from top levels of the Russian government, as Clinton said.

"We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia's senior-most officials could have authorized these activities," the statement said.
 
So no evidence? Hmmmm

I just gave you evidence that Clinton didn't lie. Your inability to understand the evidence is not my problem.

We 'lefties' are OK with the facts- unlike the OP and the Right.

And the fact is that Clinton was correct.

Jimmie admires Trump so much that he lies even more than Trump does.

Clinton, Trump clash on Russia's role in election

On Oct. 7, however — the same day WikiLeaks released the emails of Clinton campaign chair John Podesta — the Homeland Security Department and Office of the Director of National Intelligence released a joint statement that said, "The U.S. Intelligence Community (USIC) is confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of emails from U.S. persons and institutions, including from U.S. political organizations."

The statement also said the intelligence community believes these attacks are directed from top levels of the Russian government, as Clinton said.

"We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia's senior-most officials could have authorized these activities," the statement said.

The U.S. Intelligence Community is made up of 17 agencies, forming the basis of Clinton’s claim.

The 17 agencies are: Air Force Intelligence, Army Intelligence, Central Intelligence Agency, Coast Guard Intelligence, Defense Intelligence Agency, Energy Department, Homeland Security Department, State Department, Treasury Department, Drug Enforcement Administration, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Marine Corps Intelligence, National Geospatial Intelligence Agency, National Reconnaissance Office, National Security Agency, Navy Intelligence and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
So no evidence, just assumption. OK
Evidence- not assumption- that Clinton was factual. Your inability to understand the evidence is not my problem.

We 'lefties' are OK with the facts- unlike the OP and the Right.

And the fact is that Clinton was correct.

Jimmie admires Trump so much that he lies even more than Trump does.

Clinton, Trump clash on Russia's role in election

On Oct. 7, however — the same day WikiLeaks released the emails of Clinton campaign chair John Podesta — the Homeland Security Department and Office of the Director of National Intelligence released a joint statement that said, "The U.S. Intelligence Community (USIC) is confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of emails from U.S. persons and institutions, including from U.S. political organizations."

The statement also said the intelligence community believes these attacks are directed from top levels of the Russian government, as Clinton said.

"We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia's senior-most officials could have authorized these activities," the statement said.

The U.S. Intelligence Community is made up of 17 agencies, forming the basis of Clinton’s claim.

The 17 agencies are: Air Force Intelligence, Army Intelligence, Central Intelligence Agency, Coast Guard Intelligence, Defense Intelligence Agency, Energy Department, Homeland Security Department, State Department, Treasury Department, Drug Enforcement Administration, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Marine Corps Intelligence, National Geospatial Intelligence Agency, National Reconnaissance Office, National Security Agency, Navy Intelligence and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
so no evidence Russia is doing it, just assumption. OK
The statement also said the intelligence community believes these attacks are directed from top levels of the Russian government, as Clinton said.

"We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia's senior-most officials could have authorized these activities," the statement said.
Syriusly? Just more assumption. Give it up, homie.
I guess its just convenient to assume :dunno:
 
Among all the other lies told at the final presidential debate, the one that most violently leaped out at me is this nonsense about “17 of our top intelligence agencies name Russia as the hacker in support of the Trump presidency.” While some or even all of the U.S. intel guys might believe or think that Russia is behind the email hack, they cannot know for sure and if asked, they will tell you exactly that.

So its a lie except they do say its Russia so its not a lie

I wonder what kept the Russians from hacking Hillary's emails when she was using her private server sending and receiving classified information? My guess is that they did. Did the 17 intel agencies bother to check it out?

Wonder and guessing doesnt mean shit
 
Among all the other lies told at the final presidential debate, the one that most violently leaped out at me is this nonsense about “17 of our top intelligence agencies name Russia as the hacker in support of the Trump presidency.” While some or even all of the U.S. intel guys might believe or think that Russia is behind the email hack, they cannot know for sure and if asked, they will tell you exactly that.

So its a lie except they do say its Russia so its not a lie

I wonder what kept the Russians from hacking Hillary's emails when she was using her private server sending and receiving classified information? My guess is that they did. Did the 17 intel agencies bother to check it out?

Wonder and guessing doesnt mean shit

It is very much like this statement that you swear is proof that the Russians did it.

While some or even all of the U.S. intel guys might believe or think that Russia is behind the email hack, they cannot know for sure
 

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