Claire McCaskill Rips into Lying Hatch over tax plan for people making $50,000 or less..

[Ray From Cleveland]

,.....and YET, these lying bastard call it a "middle class tax cut".........and right wing idiots on here CHEER before getting slammed up their behinds...

Aren't we ALL so glad that the orange charlatan has brought his lying and cheating methods from the real estate world to the oval office???

Beats him bringing his community organizing to the oval office.

 

[nat4900]

Without somebody else to pay for it, there are no educated liberals.

Well, THAT then explains your lack of much education......Stick by your convictions, remain uneducated...... and keep playing with your guns.

 

[nat4900]

Beats him bringing his community organizing to the oval office.

Play out your "brilliant" response.......

Lying to morons like you is "better" than organizing the community???......LOL

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

All current GOPers in congress should agree to sign a pledge to QUIT if their tax plan does INCREASE taxes for middle class Americans in the next 3 years...

I'd love to see them putting their sorry asses on the line.....LOL

The problem is what is considered middle-class.

In this current bill, the middle-class is defined as anybody not in poverty making up to well in the six figures. So if your salary is 180K per year, you are considered middle-class.

In this group, the lower part of the middle-class will see a tax decrease while the upper part will see a tax increase. It's actually a 60/40 margin.

I would think that this depends on where you live ... I could live on $40,000 a year in the Midwest where I visit but would be considered poverty in the San Francisco Bay Area..

Another thing I want you to consider Ray is my cousin was a courtroom Sheriff who worked and raised her son. She is in poverty now at 70 years old with her pension in the bay area. She now lives in an affordable housing retirement home..
She would rather starve than ask for anything , but we all know and her brother is helping her now.

She would have given her life to protect these fat cats..

Being a cop is not going to stop you from being below that $50,000 mark.

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Correct, it does depend on where you live, but no matter where you live, a six figure income is doing pretty well. We can't create policy around a few liberal hellholes that allowed their cost of living to go so high because of unions and taxation. The rest of the country doesn't live like them.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

All current GOPers in congress should agree to sign a pledge to QUIT if their tax plan does INCREASE taxes for middle class Americans in the next 3 years...

I'd love to see them putting their sorry asses on the line.....LOL

Just like if you like your doctor you can keep it


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[nat4900]

We can't create policy around a few liberal hellholes that allowed their cost of living to go so high because of unions and taxation.

When we think of expensive states, New York and California are generally the first ones to come to mind. We often forget about the high cost of living in Alaska. In Anchorage, you're going to pay around $70 (or more) for Internet (6 Mbps, Unlimited Data, Cable/ADSL), which is considerably high compared to many other locations.

The median list price of homes in the large state are $252,000. Homes cost much more in Juneau (where the median is around $315,000) than in Kenai (where the median sits at around $200,000). Food is also priced high, and of you go out to dinner and a movie with a friend, you're looking at a bill of $85 or so.

 

[Lewdog]

Without somebody else to pay for it, there are no educated liberals.

Well, THAT then explains your lack of much education......Stick by your convictions, remain uneducated...... and keep playing with your guns.

If you haven't noticed by now... he complains about EVERYTHING.

He complains about people that get disability by saying it is easy to get and too many people are on it that don't deserve it. (Not true)

He complains that people that get food stamps all don't deserve them and abuse the system. (Not true)

He complains people that receive HUD are just lazy and if they wouldn't stay up all night and sleep all day they could get a job and pay their own rent. (Not true)

He complained and called the cops on kids playing basketball, when they could be out doing drugs and breaking the law instead.

He went to his local government to complain about taxes...

He complains about the insurance program...

He complained about his renters... and if you want to know why he probably doesn't have the cheap insurance like many others can get, this probably explains it, but he just seems not to bring it up. If he has his own place, and owns other properties that he is making money off of renting to others... the government probably assumes he can pay for his insurance.

 

[rightwinger]

That bimbo is still citing the CBO score? Does she get how wrong the CBO score was on obummercare?

So we should just trust Republican claims?

 

[Lewdog]

We can't create policy around a few liberal hellholes that allowed their cost of living to go so high because of unions and taxation.

When we think of expensive states, New York and California are generally the first ones to come to mind. We often forget about the high cost of living in Alaska. In Anchorage, you're going to pay around $70 (or more) for Internet (6 Mbps, Unlimited Data, Cable/ADSL), which is considerably high compared to many other locations.

The median list price of homes in the large state are $252,000. Homes cost much more in Juneau (where the median is around $315,000) than in Kenai (where the median sits at around $200,000). Food is also priced high, and of you go out to dinner and a movie with a friend, you're looking at a bill of $85 or so.

Hawaii is one of the most expensive states to live in, because so many things have to be imported to the island and so many things depends on tourism.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

More lies and dishonesty from the reprehensible right.

The Republican plan is in fact bad for middle class Americans:

‘Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio)…explained, accurately, that the Senate GOP tax plan isn’t intended to help the middle class; it’s written to benefit the richest Americans.
[…]
Brown’s argument was, at its core, substantive: non-partisan analyses of the Senate Republican tax plan make clear that it would disproportionately benefit the wealthiest Americans, and raise taxes on millions of middle-class families. That’s not some lazy “political play”; it’s an argument backed up by evidence.’

A senatorial clash that explains what's wrong with the tax fight

Why does a tax plan have to benefit anyone to be acceptable? The middle class wants new roads, healthcare etc.Just like everyone else. Why would they think they shouldn't pay for it but the rich should?

I've never got this part of the liberal mind set. We want all of this free government shit but don't want to be the ones to pay for it. How can that possibly work?

The middle class has been subsidizing corporate wages through the earned income credits for years. Corporations get tax breaks to bring jobs into states that every taxpayer in that state subsidized, the subsidies often meaning that the corporations come out dollars ahead.

The wealthy pay the lowest tax rates as a percentage of income of any taxpayers in the country and that rate is going lower.

Top 20% of Earners Pay 84% of Income Tax

Top 1% pay nearly half of federal income taxes

Top 40% paying ALL income taxes, and leaving a tip

 

[nat4900]

All current GOPers in congress should agree to sign a pledge to QUIT if their tax plan does INCREASE taxes for middle class Americans in the next 3 years...

I'd love to see them putting their sorry asses on the line.....LOL

Just like if you like your doctor you can keep it


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Trump broke 80 promises in 100 days – ThinkProgress

 

[Freewill]

Good Video Folks.. These sneaky corrupt snakes hiding shit//

Unbelievable.. You go Girl!

Short Video:

Now all we need to know is, what is the truth.

 

[nat4900]

Without somebody else to pay for it, there are no educated liberals.

Well, THAT then explains your lack of much education......Stick by your convictions, remain uneducated...... and keep playing with your guns.

If you haven't noticed by now... he complains about EVERYTHING.

He complains about people that get disability by saying it is easy to get and too many people are on it that don't deserve it. (Not true)

He complains that people that get food stamps all don't deserve them and abuse the system. (Not true)

He complains people that receive HUD are just lazy and if they wouldn't stay up all night and sleep all day they could get a job and pay their own rent. (Not true)

He complained and called the cops on kids playing basketball, when they could be out doing drugs and breaking the law instead.

He went to his local government to complain about taxes...

He complains about the insurance program...

He complained about his renters... and if you want to know why he probably doesn't have the cheap insurance like many others can get, this probably explains it, but he just seems not to bring it up. If he has his own place, and owns other properties that he is making money off of renting to others... the government probably assumes he can pay for his insurance.

In other words.......Bitching as a way of life.......LOL

 

[nat4900]

So we should just trust Republican claims?

But "of course".....Who wouldn't trust THIS orange face......LOL

 

[NYcarbineer]

That bimbo is still citing the CBO score? Does she get how wrong the CBO score was on obummercare?

So what's the right score?

 

[Freewill]

Ewe are upset with dear Claire because she wants to protect the middle class.

Do you really believe that the middle class is on Medicaid? Really? The middle class is being douched with Obamacare.

 

[nat4900]

Hawaii is one of the most expensive states to live in, because so many things have to be imported to the island and so many things depends on tourism.

......and, Hawaii does not have an equitable property tax base since a good chunk of the main island is occupied by our military,

 

[NYcarbineer]

If the GOP wants to pass a middle class tax cut, the formula is simple,

pass a tax bill that only gives cuts to the middle class.

 

[whitehall]

Everyone including the MSM admits that the repub tax plan will be beneficial to the middle class. Nobody likes taxes and everyone wants to change the status quo except elitist rich democrats who don't give a damn about the people they represent.

 

[Lewdog]

Ewe are upset with dear Claire because she wants to protect the middle class.

Do you really believe that the middle class is on Medicaid? Really? The middle class is being douched with Obamacare.

Did you know a single person can make up to $1387 a month and qualify for Medicaid? That's almost $17,000 a year. If a person made minimum wage of $7.50 an hour but was able to work 40 hours a week... which let's face it doesn't happen because of the ability to qualify for benefits, that comes out to only $15,600 annually. So people more than just making minimum wage, or who have kids, are getting Medicaid.