CIA Concludes Russia Interfered In Election To Help Trump Win

[OnePercenter]

Meat let me explain again ,,I have a few bucks and have no need to sweat out anything AND I'll have many more bucks if this market keeps up BUT I'd rather have a sane president in office that's not a complete AH who would be good for the entire country even your rednecks

So what's with all the hissyfitting and crying? You'll most likely continue to get your free stuff initially, but at some point you may have to find a job.

I'm retired for 10 years and get no free stuff or ever have unless you count SS and medi care being free stuff. I drink the best scotch go to the best restaurants and spend my winters in my condo in Florida My kids if they felt like it would never need to work another day when I'm gone although I brought them up better than that Now please stop your bs about crying and free stuff

Yes, SS and Medicare are free stuff. Are you paying for it? No. Working people are.

And don't sit there and claim you paid for it by paying into SS all those years. If you are only getting what you paid for, then if we all refuse to pay it, you should still get it... right?

If everyone stops paying for my food, I'll still have food. Why? Because when I go to the store, I pay for my food with my money. So everyone can refuse to pay for my food, and I still have it.

The very instant... the very second.... all of us refuse to pay for your SS and Medicare.... you won't have either.

If you were paying for it, it would be impossible for us to prevent you from getting it. If working people all across this country woke up tomorrow and refused to pay for SS and Medicare, you and everyone else would all instantly lose both.

You say that can't happen? Yeah look at Greece. The working people refused to pay the taxes, and the entire country imploded. No health care... no pensions.... all the retired people found themselves working again, or starving to death. Socialism always fails. SS and Medicare are socialized programs. They will fail some day. Hopefully you'll die off before it happens, so you don't suffer when it comes.

My parents are millionaires. When SS and Medicare implode... they'll be fine.

LOL I have a few of those too and don't need SS But why not take it ?
If the future president is a thief and steals from the common man why shouldn't I get what I put in?

I wouldn't blame you for doing. I'll take from the government whatever I can get. I'll take from you, whatever I can get.

If you are dumb enough to give me thousands of dollars, I'll take every dollar. Why not?

But don't be foolish, and believe the mythology that you are getting what you put in. You are not getting what you put in. You are getting what is stolen from working people like me.

I have a 401K. I trust you understand what that is. When I get money out of my 401K, I am getting out of that investment, the money I put into the investment.

Social Security is not like that. Your money that you paid into Social Security, was not invested. It was given out to those who were retired, while you worked. Your money was spent... and it's gone. There is no "investment". There is no "retirement fund". There isn't, and never was.

The money you are getting now, is coming from the poor working people of this country, and the burden gets a bit heavier every decade.

Eventually, the working people will shake off the weight of this load, and the people who are dependent on this failed system will end up impoverish and hopeless. That's the end result of every socialized system.

How much value did your 401k lose in 2008?

How much value did a social security payment lose in 2008?

 

[Lakhota]

The Russians Came And They Chose Our Next President

Let’s be completely honest, America: we’ve just been handed an election result that was hand-picked, paid for, gift-wrapped, and delivered by our committed comrades from across the sea.

And while the recipient of that noxious gift-giving, Donald Trump, sniffs that we should reject the bombshell findings released this weekend and just allow him to get on with the task of “making America great again” (colluding with foreign dictators apparently part of his protocol), the rest of us are left wondering just how much more it will take for the powers-that-be in this country to declare Election 2016 to be null and void. Fraudulent. Manipulated. Corrupt. Unacceptable.

It’s one thing to shake our heads and parse the fact that Hillary Clinton beat Donald Trump by as many votes as President Obama won in 2012 but is still considered “the loser” (which should make abolishing or amending Electoral College rules a priority).

It’s one thing to review the unprecedented and outrageous move of FBI Director James Comey to, right before the election, make ultimately pointless claims of more email trouble for Clinton (how has he not been sanctioned for that?), and feel outrage that this shattered her then-12-point lead and likely aided Trump’s win.

It’s one thing to consider the daily, weekly, monthly drip-drip-drip distraction (and fodder for haters and conspiracists) from Wikileaks and their sleazy founder Julian Assange (still in hiding from law enforcement over sexual assault allegations), and question why they only targeted Democrats and how much their biased hackery impacted the election.

It’s one thing to consider the possibility that Russian actors were behind that hackery and likely had a hand in manipulating what got released and when, and ponder the heinous thought that our election itself might have been hacked at the behest of foreign interests and preferences.

It’s one thing to grasp how much fake news — much of it directed by Russia — with its bilious lies directed particularly at Hillary Clinton — misguided and misinformed the electorate, and feel churned by the fact of America’s gullibility.

BUT IT’S A WHOLE OTHER THING to read the bombshell reports that have come out this weekend:

Now the intelligence community has concluded that Russia was clearly after a Trump victory and manipulated information to that end, according to sources who spoke to the newspaper.

“It is the assessment of the intelligence community that Russia’s goal here was to favor one candidate over the other, to help Trump get elected,” a senior U.S. official briefed on the CIA assessment told The Washington Post. “That’s the consensus view.”

Every single thing about that should stir waves of anger and revulsion, brandish red flags so voluminous they’re canopies; ring alarm bells far, wide, and loudly across the entire United States of America. In all our myriad doomsday imaginings, in all the conspiracy theories and Cold War drills, fears of invasion and terrors related to “The Russians are Coming,” what is patently clear at this moment is that the Russians came and they chose our next president.

More: The Russians Came And They Chose Our Next President

This should anger everyone regardless of their political persuasion. The founding fathers would be outraged. This is un-American! This must be thoroughly investigated and somehow rectified.

 

[Wyatt earp]

 

[Contumacious]

So the OP is implying he agrees Russia hacked the elections...but will he also agree that the left possibly got millions of illegal votes from non citizens?

Well, sparky, 17 national security agencies (including the CIA) say they have proof that Russians hacked the DNC. Where's your proof "that the left possibly got "millions of illegal votes from non citizens"? Please provide "credible" proof that can be verified as factual.

LET US SEE IT.


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Do you have the proper security clearances and a need to know?

Actually , I did have a COSMIC TOP SECRET CLEARANCE back in 1969 when I worked with the auto digital network - Signal corp - in Pirmasens , Germany.

But you ain't got shit.


Shut the **** up.


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[whutTHEYsay]

bornright, post: 16033413

Failed to see anything coming from the CIA. Two Obama appointees Homeland Security and Director of National Intelligence surely you jest. The only ones officially making this accusation is politicians and news media

So you do not believe Senator John McCain was briefed by the CIA on the Russian interference in the election issue.

“I don’t know what to make of [Trump’s comments], because it’s clear the Russians interfered," McCain said Sunday on CBS' "Face the Nation." “Facts are stubborn things."

Trump vs. Congress on Russian hacking


Lindsay Graham and Rand Paul issued similar statements.

None denying the CIA briefed them.

Why did Trump attack the CIA if the CIA DID not brief all these Senators. Trump must know what the CIA told the Senators Democrat and Republican alike.

We'll see if Trump backs off Rex Tillerson, the Chairman & CEO of ExxonMobil and very close personal friend and ally of Putin because of the CIA conclusion. Tillerson will look terrible as SOS when the full CIA report on all this comes out before Obama leaves office.

If Tillerson vanishes from the spotlight the next few days it shows Trump can't shrug off his close ties and fondness for Putin because the CIA has something on Putin and Trump knows it.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Let’s be completely honest, America: we’ve just been handed an election result that was hand-picked, paid for, gift-wrapped, and delivered by our committed comrades from across the sea.

And while the recipient of that noxious gift-giving, Donald Trump, sniffs that we should reject the bombshell findings released this weekend and just allow him to get on with the task of “making America great again” (colluding with foreign dictators apparently part of his protocol), the rest of us are left wondering just how much more it will take for the powers-that-be in this country to declare Election 2016 to be null and void. Fraudulent. Manipulated. Corrupt. Unacceptable.

It’s one thing to shake our heads and parse the fact that Hillary Clinton beat Donald Trump by as many votes as President Obama won in 2012 but is still considered “the loser” (which should make abolishing or amending Electoral College rules a priority).

It’s one thing to review the unprecedented and outrageous move of FBI Director James Comey to, right before the election, make ultimately pointless claims of more email trouble for Clinton (how has he not been sanctioned for that?), and feel outrage that this shattered her then-12-point lead and likely aided Trump’s win.

It’s one thing to consider the daily, weekly, monthly drip-drip-drip distraction (and fodder for haters and conspiracists) from Wikileaks and their sleazy founder Julian Assange (still in hiding from law enforcement over sexual assault allegations), and question why they only targeted Democrats and how much their biased hackery impacted the election.

It’s one thing to consider the possibility that Russian actors were behind that hackery and likely had a hand in manipulating what got released and when, and ponder the heinous thought that our election itself might have been hacked at the behest of foreign interests and preferences.

It’s one thing to grasp how much fake news — much of it directed by Russia — with its bilious lies directed particularly at Hillary Clinton — misguided and misinformed the electorate, and feel churned by the fact of America’s gullibility.

BUT IT’S A WHOLE OTHER THING to read the bombshell reports that have come out this weekend:

Now the intelligence community has concluded that Russia was clearly after a Trump victory and manipulated information to that end, according to sources who spoke to the newspaper.

“It is the assessment of the intelligence community that Russia’s goal here was to favor one candidate over the other, to help Trump get elected,” a senior U.S. official briefed on the CIA assessment told The Washington Post. “That’s the consensus view.”

Every single thing about that should stir waves of anger and revulsion, brandish red flags so voluminous they’re canopies; ring alarm bells far, wide, and loudly across the entire United States of America. In all our myriad doomsday imaginings, in all the conspiracy theories and Cold War drills, fears of invasion and terrors related to “The Russians are Coming,” what is patently clear at this moment is that the Russians came and they chose our next president.

More: The Russians Came And They Chose Our Next President

This should anger everyone regardless of their political persuasion. The founding fathers would be outraged. This is un-American! This must be thoroughly investigated and somehow rectified.

 

[Contumacious]

Let’s be completely honest, America: we’ve just been handed an election result that was hand-picked, paid for, gift-wrapped, and delivered by our committed comrades from across the sea.

And while the recipient of that noxious gift-giving, Donald Trump, sniffs that we should reject the bombshell findings released this weekend and just allow him to get on with the task of “making America great again” (colluding with foreign dictators apparently part of his protocol), the rest of us are left wondering just how much more it will take for the powers-that-be in this country to declare Election 2016 to be null and void. Fraudulent. Manipulated. Corrupt. Unacceptable.

It’s one thing to shake our heads and parse the fact that Hillary Clinton beat Donald Trump by as many votes as President Obama won in 2012 but is still considered “the loser” (which should make abolishing or amending Electoral College rules a priority).

It’s one thing to review the unprecedented and outrageous move of FBI Director James Comey to, right before the election, make ultimately pointless claims of more email trouble for Clinton (how has he not been sanctioned for that?), and feel outrage that this shattered her then-12-point lead and likely aided Trump’s win.

It’s one thing to consider the daily, weekly, monthly drip-drip-drip distraction (and fodder for haters and conspiracists) from Wikileaks and their sleazy founder Julian Assange (still in hiding from law enforcement over sexual assault allegations), and question why they only targeted Democrats and how much their biased hackery impacted the election.

It’s one thing to consider the possibility that Russian actors were behind that hackery and likely had a hand in manipulating what got released and when, and ponder the heinous thought that our election itself might have been hacked at the behest of foreign interests and preferences.

It’s one thing to grasp how much fake news — much of it directed by Russia — with its bilious lies directed particularly at Hillary Clinton — misguided and misinformed the electorate, and feel churned by the fact of America’s gullibility.

BUT IT’S A WHOLE OTHER THING to read the bombshell reports that have come out this weekend:

Now the intelligence community has concluded that Russia was clearly after a Trump victory and manipulated information to that end, according to sources who spoke to the newspaper.

“It is the assessment of the intelligence community that Russia’s goal here was to favor one candidate over the other, to help Trump get elected,” a senior U.S. official briefed on the CIA assessment told The Washington Post. “That’s the consensus view.”

Every single thing about that should stir waves of anger and revulsion, brandish red flags so voluminous they’re canopies; ring alarm bells far, wide, and loudly across the entire United States of America. In all our myriad doomsday imaginings, in all the conspiracy theories and Cold War drills, fears of invasion and terrors related to “The Russians are Coming,” what is patently clear at this moment is that the Russians came and they chose our next president.

More: The Russians Came And They Chose Our Next President

This should anger everyone regardless of their political persuasion. The founding fathers would be outraged. This is un-American! This must be thoroughly investigated and somehow rectified.

Yes, yes, that is true.

My real name is Petrov Contumaciousky.

Bwahahahahahahahahhahah

What a stupid ****.


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[Lakhota]

So the OP is implying he agrees Russia hacked the elections...but will he also agree that the left possibly got millions of illegal votes from non citizens?

Well, sparky, 17 national security agencies (including the CIA) say they have proof that Russians hacked the DNC. Where's your proof "that the left possibly got "millions of illegal votes from non citizens"? Please provide "credible" proof that can be verified as factual.

LET US SEE IT.


.


.

Do you have the proper security clearances and a need to know?

Actually , I did have a COSMIC TOP SECRET CLEARANCE back in 1969 when I worked with the auto digital network - Signal corp - in Pirmasens , Germany.

But you ain't got shit.


Shut the **** up.


.


.

Well, sparky, I had a TOP SECRET CRYPTO SIOP II during the Vietnam Era - but that doesn't mean shit now - and neither does yours.

 

[eddiew37]

So what's with all the hissyfitting and crying? You'll most likely continue to get your free stuff initially, but at some point you may have to find a job.

I'm retired for 10 years and get no free stuff or ever have unless you count SS and medi care being free stuff. I drink the best scotch go to the best restaurants and spend my winters in my condo in Florida My kids if they felt like it would never need to work another day when I'm gone although I brought them up better than that Now please stop your bs about crying and free stuff

Yes, SS and Medicare are free stuff. Are you paying for it? No. Working people are.

And don't sit there and claim you paid for it by paying into SS all those years. If you are only getting what you paid for, then if we all refuse to pay it, you should still get it... right?

If everyone stops paying for my food, I'll still have food. Why? Because when I go to the store, I pay for my food with my money. So everyone can refuse to pay for my food, and I still have it.

The very instant... the very second.... all of us refuse to pay for your SS and Medicare.... you won't have either.

If you were paying for it, it would be impossible for us to prevent you from getting it. If working people all across this country woke up tomorrow and refused to pay for SS and Medicare, you and everyone else would all instantly lose both.

You say that can't happen? Yeah look at Greece. The working people refused to pay the taxes, and the entire country imploded. No health care... no pensions.... all the retired people found themselves working again, or starving to death. Socialism always fails. SS and Medicare are socialized programs. They will fail some day. Hopefully you'll die off before it happens, so you don't suffer when it comes.

My parents are millionaires. When SS and Medicare implode... they'll be fine.

LOL I have a few of those too and don't need SS But why not take it ?
If the future president is a thief and steals from the common man why shouldn't I get what I put in?

I wouldn't blame you for doing. I'll take from the government whatever I can get. I'll take from you, whatever I can get.

If you are dumb enough to give me thousands of dollars, I'll take every dollar. Why not?

But don't be foolish, and believe the mythology that you are getting what you put in. You are not getting what you put in. You are getting what is stolen from working people like me.

I have a 401K. I trust you understand what that is. When I get money out of my 401K, I am getting out of that investment, the money I put into the investment.

Social Security is not like that. Your money that you paid into Social Security, was not invested. It was given out to those who were retired, while you worked. Your money was spent... and it's gone. There is no "investment". There is no "retirement fund". There isn't, and never was.

The money you are getting now, is coming from the poor working people of this country, and the burden gets a bit heavier every decade.

Eventually, the working people will shake off the weight of this load, and the people who are dependent on this failed system will end up impoverish and hopeless. That's the end result of every socialized system.

How much value did your 401k lose in 2008?

How much value did a social security payment lose in 2008?

Guess they don't appreciate what happened to their 401k's and ira's during obamas presidency

 

[TheOldSchool]

Let’s be completely honest, America: we’ve just been handed an election result that was hand-picked, paid for, gift-wrapped, and delivered by our committed comrades from across the sea.

And while the recipient of that noxious gift-giving, Donald Trump, sniffs that we should reject the bombshell findings released this weekend and just allow him to get on with the task of “making America great again” (colluding with foreign dictators apparently part of his protocol), the rest of us are left wondering just how much more it will take for the powers-that-be in this country to declare Election 2016 to be null and void. Fraudulent. Manipulated. Corrupt. Unacceptable.

It’s one thing to shake our heads and parse the fact that Hillary Clinton beat Donald Trump by as many votes as President Obama won in 2012 but is still considered “the loser” (which should make abolishing or amending Electoral College rules a priority).

It’s one thing to review the unprecedented and outrageous move of FBI Director James Comey to, right before the election, make ultimately pointless claims of more email trouble for Clinton (how has he not been sanctioned for that?), and feel outrage that this shattered her then-12-point lead and likely aided Trump’s win.

It’s one thing to consider the daily, weekly, monthly drip-drip-drip distraction (and fodder for haters and conspiracists) from Wikileaks and their sleazy founder Julian Assange (still in hiding from law enforcement over sexual assault allegations), and question why they only targeted Democrats and how much their biased hackery impacted the election.

It’s one thing to consider the possibility that Russian actors were behind that hackery and likely had a hand in manipulating what got released and when, and ponder the heinous thought that our election itself might have been hacked at the behest of foreign interests and preferences.

It’s one thing to grasp how much fake news — much of it directed by Russia — with its bilious lies directed particularly at Hillary Clinton — misguided and misinformed the electorate, and feel churned by the fact of America’s gullibility.

BUT IT’S A WHOLE OTHER THING to read the bombshell reports that have come out this weekend:

Now the intelligence community has concluded that Russia was clearly after a Trump victory and manipulated information to that end, according to sources who spoke to the newspaper.

“It is the assessment of the intelligence community that Russia’s goal here was to favor one candidate over the other, to help Trump get elected,” a senior U.S. official briefed on the CIA assessment told The Washington Post. “That’s the consensus view.”

Every single thing about that should stir waves of anger and revulsion, brandish red flags so voluminous they’re canopies; ring alarm bells far, wide, and loudly across the entire United States of America. In all our myriad doomsday imaginings, in all the conspiracy theories and Cold War drills, fears of invasion and terrors related to “The Russians are Coming,” what is patently clear at this moment is that the Russians came and they chose our next president.

More: The Russians Came And They Chose Our Next President

This should anger everyone regardless of their political persuasion. The founding fathers would be outraged. This is un-American! This must be thoroughly investigated and somehow rectified.

A coup the old Soviet leaders could have only dreamed of

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Let’s be completely honest, America: we’ve just been handed an election result that was hand-picked, paid for, gift-wrapped, and delivered by our committed comrades from across the sea.

And while the recipient of that noxious gift-giving, Donald Trump, sniffs that we should reject the bombshell findings released this weekend and just allow him to get on with the task of “making America great again” (colluding with foreign dictators apparently part of his protocol), the rest of us are left wondering just how much more it will take for the powers-that-be in this country to declare Election 2016 to be null and void. Fraudulent. Manipulated. Corrupt. Unacceptable.

It’s one thing to shake our heads and parse the fact that Hillary Clinton beat Donald Trump by as many votes as President Obama won in 2012 but is still considered “the loser” (which should make abolishing or amending Electoral College rules a priority).

It’s one thing to review the unprecedented and outrageous move of FBI Director James Comey to, right before the election, make ultimately pointless claims of more email trouble for Clinton (how has he not been sanctioned for that?), and feel outrage that this shattered her then-12-point lead and likely aided Trump’s win.

It’s one thing to consider the daily, weekly, monthly drip-drip-drip distraction (and fodder for haters and conspiracists) from Wikileaks and their sleazy founder Julian Assange (still in hiding from law enforcement over sexual assault allegations), and question why they only targeted Democrats and how much their biased hackery impacted the election.

It’s one thing to consider the possibility that Russian actors were behind that hackery and likely had a hand in manipulating what got released and when, and ponder the heinous thought that our election itself might have been hacked at the behest of foreign interests and preferences.

It’s one thing to grasp how much fake news — much of it directed by Russia — with its bilious lies directed particularly at Hillary Clinton — misguided and misinformed the electorate, and feel churned by the fact of America’s gullibility.

BUT IT’S A WHOLE OTHER THING to read the bombshell reports that have come out this weekend:

Now the intelligence community has concluded that Russia was clearly after a Trump victory and manipulated information to that end, according to sources who spoke to the newspaper.

“It is the assessment of the intelligence community that Russia’s goal here was to favor one candidate over the other, to help Trump get elected,” a senior U.S. official briefed on the CIA assessment told The Washington Post. “That’s the consensus view.”

Every single thing about that should stir waves of anger and revulsion, brandish red flags so voluminous they’re canopies; ring alarm bells far, wide, and loudly across the entire United States of America. In all our myriad doomsday imaginings, in all the conspiracy theories and Cold War drills, fears of invasion and terrors related to “The Russians are Coming,” what is patently clear at this moment is that the Russians came and they chose our next president.

More: The Russians Came And They Chose Our Next President

This should anger everyone regardless of their political persuasion. The founding fathers would be outraged. This is un-American! This must be thoroughly investigated and somehow rectified.

A coup the old Soviet leaders could have only dreamed of

You people are bonafide insane.

 

[TheOldSchool]

Let’s be completely honest, America: we’ve just been handed an election result that was hand-picked, paid for, gift-wrapped, and delivered by our committed comrades from across the sea.

And while the recipient of that noxious gift-giving, Donald Trump, sniffs that we should reject the bombshell findings released this weekend and just allow him to get on with the task of “making America great again” (colluding with foreign dictators apparently part of his protocol), the rest of us are left wondering just how much more it will take for the powers-that-be in this country to declare Election 2016 to be null and void. Fraudulent. Manipulated. Corrupt. Unacceptable.

It’s one thing to shake our heads and parse the fact that Hillary Clinton beat Donald Trump by as many votes as President Obama won in 2012 but is still considered “the loser” (which should make abolishing or amending Electoral College rules a priority).

It’s one thing to review the unprecedented and outrageous move of FBI Director James Comey to, right before the election, make ultimately pointless claims of more email trouble for Clinton (how has he not been sanctioned for that?), and feel outrage that this shattered her then-12-point lead and likely aided Trump’s win.

It’s one thing to consider the daily, weekly, monthly drip-drip-drip distraction (and fodder for haters and conspiracists) from Wikileaks and their sleazy founder Julian Assange (still in hiding from law enforcement over sexual assault allegations), and question why they only targeted Democrats and how much their biased hackery impacted the election.

It’s one thing to consider the possibility that Russian actors were behind that hackery and likely had a hand in manipulating what got released and when, and ponder the heinous thought that our election itself might have been hacked at the behest of foreign interests and preferences.

It’s one thing to grasp how much fake news — much of it directed by Russia — with its bilious lies directed particularly at Hillary Clinton — misguided and misinformed the electorate, and feel churned by the fact of America’s gullibility.

BUT IT’S A WHOLE OTHER THING to read the bombshell reports that have come out this weekend:

Now the intelligence community has concluded that Russia was clearly after a Trump victory and manipulated information to that end, according to sources who spoke to the newspaper.

“It is the assessment of the intelligence community that Russia’s goal here was to favor one candidate over the other, to help Trump get elected,” a senior U.S. official briefed on the CIA assessment told The Washington Post. “That’s the consensus view.”

Every single thing about that should stir waves of anger and revulsion, brandish red flags so voluminous they’re canopies; ring alarm bells far, wide, and loudly across the entire United States of America. In all our myriad doomsday imaginings, in all the conspiracy theories and Cold War drills, fears of invasion and terrors related to “The Russians are Coming,” what is patently clear at this moment is that the Russians came and they chose our next president.

More: The Russians Came And They Chose Our Next President

This should anger everyone regardless of their political persuasion. The founding fathers would be outraged. This is un-American! This must be thoroughly investigated and somehow rectified.

A coup the old Soviet leaders could have only dreamed of

You people are bonafide insane.

Says the Trump voter

 

[Lewdog]

After so many years of the U.S. getting into other countries elections, it has happened to us. So the question is, do we fix things or do we just accept that one of our greatest enemy nations picked our President.

 

[idb]

"secret assessment"

Same "secret assessment" that said Iraq had Weapons of Mass Destruction

A retired CIA official has accused the Bush administration of ignoring intelligence indicating that Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction and no active nuclear program before the United States-led coalition invaded it, CBS News said Sunday.

Tyler Drumheller, the former highest-ranking CIA officer in Europe, told "60 Minutes" that the administration "chose to ignore" good intelligence, the network said in a posting on its Web site.

Another retired CIA official in February said the Bush administration disregarded the expertise of the intelligence community, politicized the intelligence process and used unrepresentative data in making the case for war.

CNN.com - Ex-CIA official: WMD evidence ignored - Apr 23, 2006

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Let’s be completely honest, America: we’ve just been handed an election result that was hand-picked, paid for, gift-wrapped, and delivered by our committed comrades from across the sea.

And while the recipient of that noxious gift-giving, Donald Trump, sniffs that we should reject the bombshell findings released this weekend and just allow him to get on with the task of “making America great again” (colluding with foreign dictators apparently part of his protocol), the rest of us are left wondering just how much more it will take for the powers-that-be in this country to declare Election 2016 to be null and void. Fraudulent. Manipulated. Corrupt. Unacceptable.

It’s one thing to shake our heads and parse the fact that Hillary Clinton beat Donald Trump by as many votes as President Obama won in 2012 but is still considered “the loser” (which should make abolishing or amending Electoral College rules a priority).

It’s one thing to review the unprecedented and outrageous move of FBI Director James Comey to, right before the election, make ultimately pointless claims of more email trouble for Clinton (how has he not been sanctioned for that?), and feel outrage that this shattered her then-12-point lead and likely aided Trump’s win.

It’s one thing to consider the daily, weekly, monthly drip-drip-drip distraction (and fodder for haters and conspiracists) from Wikileaks and their sleazy founder Julian Assange (still in hiding from law enforcement over sexual assault allegations), and question why they only targeted Democrats and how much their biased hackery impacted the election.

It’s one thing to consider the possibility that Russian actors were behind that hackery and likely had a hand in manipulating what got released and when, and ponder the heinous thought that our election itself might have been hacked at the behest of foreign interests and preferences.

It’s one thing to grasp how much fake news — much of it directed by Russia — with its bilious lies directed particularly at Hillary Clinton — misguided and misinformed the electorate, and feel churned by the fact of America’s gullibility.

BUT IT’S A WHOLE OTHER THING to read the bombshell reports that have come out this weekend:

Now the intelligence community has concluded that Russia was clearly after a Trump victory and manipulated information to that end, according to sources who spoke to the newspaper.

“It is the assessment of the intelligence community that Russia’s goal here was to favor one candidate over the other, to help Trump get elected,” a senior U.S. official briefed on the CIA assessment told The Washington Post. “That’s the consensus view.”

Every single thing about that should stir waves of anger and revulsion, brandish red flags so voluminous they’re canopies; ring alarm bells far, wide, and loudly across the entire United States of America. In all our myriad doomsday imaginings, in all the conspiracy theories and Cold War drills, fears of invasion and terrors related to “The Russians are Coming,” what is patently clear at this moment is that the Russians came and they chose our next president.

More: The Russians Came And They Chose Our Next President

This should anger everyone regardless of their political persuasion. The founding fathers would be outraged. This is un-American! This must be thoroughly investigated and somehow rectified.

A coup the old Soviet leaders could have only dreamed of

You people are bonafide insane.

Says the Trump voter

Billy buffs his "Winner" button.

 

[Tank]

Better the Russians then the Mexicans

 

[RetiredGySgt]

After so many years of the U.S. getting into other countries elections, it has happened to us. So the question is, do we fix things or do we just accept that one of our greatest enemy nations picked our President.

Once again absolutely no evidence that happened.

 

[OnePercenter]

No,

 

[Contumacious]

So the OP is implying he agrees Russia hacked the elections...but will he also agree that the left possibly got millions of illegal votes from non citizens?

Well, sparky, 17 national security agencies (including the CIA) say they have proof that Russians hacked the DNC. Where's your proof "that the left possibly got "millions of illegal votes from non citizens"? Please provide "credible" proof that can be verified as factual.

LET US SEE IT.


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Do you have the proper security clearances and a need to know?

Actually , I did have a COSMIC TOP SECRET CLEARANCE back in 1969 when I worked with the auto digital network - Signal corp - in Pirmasens , Germany.

But you ain't got shit.


Shut the **** up.


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Well, sparky, I had a TOP SECRET CRYPTO SIOP II during the Vietnam Era - but that doesn't mean shit now - and neither does yours.

As a US taxpayer I do not need a clearance to know the truth.

But that's OK - I will wait for Julian and Vladimir to inform me.


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[Lewdog]

After so many years of the U.S. getting into other countries elections, it has happened to us. So the question is, do we fix things or do we just accept that one of our greatest enemy nations picked our President.

Once again absolutely no evidence that happened.

Zero evidence which one happened?