Zone1 Christianity and the LGBTQ Community, end time sign. This Apostasy is Alarming.

[GMCGeneral]

We have a prophet whom God appointed and prophets and apostles ever since. We have the authority of God, His Priesthood. So we have standing if Amos 3:7. What do you have?

As Evangelicals, who hold the corner on the Truth, we have direct authority of Jesus Christ Himself, the second person of the Triune G-dhead, and the Sovereign G-d of Creation. All you have are failed cult leaders, and that means Joseph & Hyram Smith, Charles Taze Russell, Herbert W. and Garner Ted Armstrong, L. Ron Hubbard, etc.

 

[Cougarbear]

The JW,s have holy spirit guiding them into all truth. Its why corrections were made. All taught error on these hidden truths-Dan 12:4) it took correction to go from error to truth here in these last days. What errors, at the proper time, has your religion made correction to truth?

Nope! Without Prophets, there is no gift of the Holy Ghost. No secrets to guide your scholars. Daniel was a prophet. By your own admission your scholars are no prophets. That’s why they made those errors and everyone of your doctrines since.

 

[Cougarbear]

As Evangelicals, who hold the corner on the Truth, we have direct authority of Jesus Christ Himself, the second person of the Triune G-dhead, and the Sovereign G-d of Creation. All you have are failed cult leaders, and that means Joseph & Hyram Smith, Charles Taze Russell, Herbert W. and Garner Ted Armstrong, L. Ron Hubbard, etc.

Nope. Amos was clear. Without prophets you have no authority.

 

[luiza]

Without prophets you have no authority.

Would be interesting to see a translation into useful l English -- it is simply given out as a conclusion without any detail support or evidence . A statement of belief but not fact , except to gullible followers who turn it into a useless circular argument .

Unfortunately it needs more substance for it to be useful and positive for at least the majority of people -- all cults create / find their own prophets which then gives them ways to assume and take authority . The old Faith proposition .

And without that further substance ( say , responsibulity , accountability and wisdom) you simply will breed despots and dictators .Exactly as happened with the Christian movement once the authoritarians took over. It rapidly became and remains a cult .

 

[Cougarbear]

Would be interesting to see a translation into useful l English -- it is simply given out as a conclusion without any detail support or evidence . A statement of belief but not fact , except to gullible followers who turn it into a useless circular argument .

Unfortunately it needs more substance for it to be useful and positive for at least the majority of people -- all cults create / find their own prophets which then gives them ways to assume and take authority . The old Faith proposition .

And without that further substance ( say , responsibulity , accountability and wisdom) you simply will breed despots and dictators .Exactly as happened with the Christian movement once the authoritarians took over. It rapidly became and remains a cult .

There’s and old Chinese proverb: “More words count less.”
Acmans Razor is another. The simplest way is the most likely the correct answer.
Amos 3:7, Surely the Lord God revealth His secrets, only to His servants, the prophets. Only.
Of course The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is by its very definition a cult. Exactly as was the new Church of Jesus Christ when Jesus began his ministry and for the next 3 years. Even after for a long time the “Christian “ followers called members of a cult. Then, as the mainstream Christian Churches strayed away from Prophets over the next 1800 years to push the idea prophets really aren’t necessary. Only the words of the Bible are needed. That God’s direct words and leadership through prophets became blasphemy and a sign of cult worship. Billions of Christians running around in their various sects teaching there is no need for a prophet and more instructions in revelatory books. So, when again the Lord calls Prophets and Apostles, they are to be rejected because this doesn’t fit the traditional Bible thumping Christian world. We are cults because we don’t follow your rules of no God direct messages and know by testimony of the Holy Ghost that the Lord again speaks through His called prophets and apostles in these latter days. The restitution times of all things of the past especially the authority God given to man to do His work. The Priesthood.
So, feel free to call the Lord’s Church a cult. You are simply proving us right.

 

[kjw47]

As Evangelicals, who hold the corner on the Truth, we have direct authority of Jesus Christ Himself, the second person of the Triune G-dhead, and the Sovereign G-d of Creation. All you have are failed cult leaders, and that means Joseph & Hyram Smith, Charles Taze Russell, Herbert W. and Garner Ted Armstrong, L. Ron Hubbard, etc.

God was never a trinity=100% fact of life.

 

[kjw47]

Nope! Without Prophets, there is no gift of the Holy Ghost. No secrets to guide your scholars. Daniel was a prophet. By your own admission your scholars are no prophets. That’s why they made those errors and everyone of your doctrines since.

The JW,s belong to Jesus. Fact of life.

 

[SaxonJackson]

Christianity and the LGBTQ Community, end time sign. This Apostasy is Alarming.

2 Thessalonians 2
[1] Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
[2] That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
[3] Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

It is alarming, but it's also meant to be. The Bible tells us to be "watchmen on the wall" and to discern the signs of the times. The sooner the end comes, the sooner Christ's Kingdom descends from heaven and reigns supreme here on earth.

 

[Cougarbear]

The JW,s belong to Jesus. Fact of life.

Can't belong to Jesus without the Holy Ghost. Without Prophets that receive the authority to give the gift of the Holy Ghost, you cannot be properly baptized and confirmed a member of Jesus Christ and His Church. JW's are mostly, but no always, nice people. Unless you leave then they hate you, especially family members that aren't members.

 

[Cougarbear]

God was never a trinity=100% fact of life.

Have you met the Father, Son or Holy Ghost? Then, you don't know 100% for a fact. Especially because you are being schooled by non-Prophets. Thus, your scholars have no information on this from God. Instead, they only go on their own less than scholarly brains.

 

[kjw47]

Have you met the Father, Son or Holy Ghost? Then, you don't know 100% for a fact. Especially because you are being schooled by non-Prophets. Thus, your scholars have no information on this from God. Instead, they only go on their own less than scholarly brains.

The teachings of Jesus, in EVERY translation on earth back the JW teachers-0 doubt. Fact of Israelite true God worship history back the JW teachers. You should study Jesus, not Mr. Smith

 

[Cougarbear]

The teachings of Jesus, in EVERY translation on earth back the JW teachers-0 doubt. Fact of Israelite true God worship history back the JW teachers. You should study Jesus, not Mr. Smith

Mr. Smith was called by Jesus Christ to be His Prophet. Like the Israelites of old, JW's reject their prophets.
Here is the fact. We study Jesus Christ. In fact, our Church is named after the Savior, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. So, not only did Jesus give the Prophet Joseph Smith the authority to clear up the improper translations of the Bible over the millenniums, he also gave the Prophet the knowledge of the secrets withheld from the apostates about the New and Everlasting Covenant. With that, we have other words of doctrine to study Jesus Christ: The Book of Mormon, Doctrine & Covenants, The Book of Moses, The Book of Abraham and more.
What do JW's have? A bible uninspired of God. A bible uninspired and unauthorized by God. A bible that strips the power and authority of Jesus Christ. And, as with all other sects of Christianity, lacks the power and authority to perform all the saving and exaltation ordinances of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
Then, there is the concept that JWs have that Jesus Christ died for their sins. But, in reality, they believe he died for only the rank and file 144,000. The rest of you are left out in the cold. Reminds of of the deception of the corporate dream where everyone smiles at everyone with the hope that those above them on the corporate ladder either gets sick, fired or dies so they can move up. You all are looking for others to screw up so you can move up to the rank and file 144,000. Sick.
Then, you don't understand what it means for Jesus to atone for your sins. See, Jesus is the father of the atonement. Thus, we become his children, sons and daughter of Jesus Christ. The definition of "Redeemer" of Israel means Jesus becomes our Father too. Thus, Father in Heaven and Jehovah (Jesus Christ) are both our fathers and thus, Gods. The Father and Son not only told this to the Prophet, but in a vision, he showed him too. And, that's why the Godhead told the Prophet not to join any of the other churches that claim to be Christians. They, like you, come close with their lips by they are far away with their hearts teaching doctrines and commandments of men, mingled with scriptures.

 

[kjw47]

Mr. Smith was called by Jesus Christ to be His Prophet. Like the Israelites of old, JW's reject their prophets.
Here is the fact. We study Jesus Christ. In fact, our Church is named after the Savior, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. So, not only did Jesus give the Prophet Joseph Smith the authority to clear up the improper translations of the Bible over the millenniums, he also gave the Prophet the knowledge of the secrets withheld from the apostates about the New and Everlasting Covenant. With that, we have other words of doctrine to study Jesus Christ: The Book of Mormon, Doctrine & Covenants, The Book of Moses, The Book of Abraham and more.
What do JW's have? A bible uninspired of God. A bible uninspired and unauthorized by God. A bible that strips the power and authority of Jesus Christ. And, as with all other sects of Christianity, lacks the power and authority to perform all the saving and exaltation ordinances of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
Then, there is the concept that JWs have that Jesus Christ died for their sins. But, in reality, they believe he died for only the rank and file 144,000. The rest of you are left out in the cold. Reminds of of the deception of the corporate dream where everyone smiles at everyone with the hope that those above them on the corporate ladder either gets sick, fired or dies so they can move up. You all are looking for others to screw up so you can move up to the rank and file 144,000. Sick.
Then, you don't understand what it means for Jesus to atone for your sins. See, Jesus is the father of the atonement. Thus, we become his children, sons and daughter of Jesus Christ. The definition of "Redeemer" of Israel means Jesus becomes our Father too. Thus, Father in Heaven and Jehovah (Jesus Christ) are both our fathers and thus, Gods. The Father and Son not only told this to the Prophet, but in a vision, he showed him too. And, that's why the Godhead told the Prophet not to join any of the other churches that claim to be Christians. They, like you, come close with their lips by they are far away with their hearts teaching doctrines and commandments of men, mingled with scriptures.

So says Mr Smith-- Charles Manson fooled his followers into them thinking he was Jesus. The teachings of Jesus prove who is who. Learn them.

 

[Cougarbear]

So says Mr Smith-- Charles Manson fooled his followers into them thinking he was Jesus. The teachings of Jesus prove who is who. Learn them.

Joseph Smith was killed by crazy JW like people in 1844. Charles Manson just died recently. What is the matter with you?

 

[Carl in Michigan]

They are separate beings-the Father is God, The son is created.

In the beginning was the Word. ....

 

[Cougarbear]

In the beginning was the Word. ....

You are now showing Facts to a JW. They will of course deny Facts.

 

[kjw47]

Joseph Smith was killed by crazy JW like people in 1844. Charles Manson just died recently. What is the matter with you?

JW,s kill no one. We listen to Jesus.

 

[kjw47]

In the beginning was the Word. ....

And any can look up John 1:1 in Greek and see-The true God( 2nd line) Greek word for God ends in a v, The word got a Greek word that ends in a g=god. The same thing occurs at 2 Cor 4:4--The true God ends in v,= God) a small g god in same paragraph Greek word ends in g. Translating works the same at both spots. Its why there is a difference. Trinity scholars know its fact, yet say nothing because it exposes hundreds of religions as false religion, billions $$$$ would be lost yearly. And 2 billion humans would sue them for stealing their $$$ when they know they do not teach truth.

 

[Cougarbear]

JW,s kill no one. We listen to Jesus.

Are you sure? Heck, they are going to leave you behind because you aren't one of the blessed leaders or the 144,000. You are doomed! And, I wish you could actually listen to Jesus. But, you have no Prophets to receive oral messages to hear.
Aren't you going to repent for your accusation that Charles Manson recruited Joseph Smith? Shame on you for falsebearing.

 

[kjw47]

Are you sure? Heck, they are going to leave you behind because you aren't one of the blessed leaders or the 144,000. You are doomed! And, I wish you could actually listen to Jesus. But, you have no Prophets to receive oral messages to hear.
Aren't you going to repent for your accusation that Charles Manson recruited Joseph Smith? Shame on you for falsebearing.

The great crowd of other sheep will inherit the earth and reside forever upon it--You left these out. I am apart of those.
I didnt say Charles Manson recruited Joseph Smith--You need to learn how to read.