- Dec 22, 2018
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It's great that that you and I agree on most things Kilroy2Because someone disagree with same sex lifestyle is not a valid reason to not provide service if your a business open to the general public.
The only part of your reply that I would
have more cautiously clarified:
When you said disagreeing with same sex lifestyle is not a valid reason to not provide service:
1. Agreed that denying ALL or ANY Service to the CUSTOMER is targeting that Customer and treating them with Discrimination
2. However, not providing a certain service to ANY Customer is different.
Again, if someone specializes in cultural decor and cuisine for Hindu wedding ceremonies, they may deny requests for Buddhist or Muslim services or catering which is not what they do.
It is the TYPE of Service they are not providing.
If heterosexual customers hired them to provide services for a "same sex wedding" they would still decline the work.
It isn't the customer being refused, it is the content of their request that is being refused because that business doesn't provide that type of service. Or doesn't believe in it.
To you it may seem like the same service.
But to people of different spiritual or religious beliefs, this is very different.
It is as against their beliefs as, say, a brother and sister wanting to marry.
If that idea feels unnatural or wrong to you,
that is how some people view same sex relations.
I guess if you just do not see it that way, you cannot understand how other people can have such beliefs.
All you see is throwing these levels all together as "discrimination" where you judge some people for their beliefs as "invalid" "immoral or unjust" "inferior" and "bigoted bases on negative malice, prejudice or judgment of others."
Again, I agree it is wrong to judge and mistreat a PERSON based on beliefs.
But nothing wrong with choosing WHAT TYPES of services or ceremonies to offer.
I am guessing you and otto105
just don't see any difference here.
Like being color blind or tone deaf.
Since you cannot distinguish the SERVICE from the CUSTOMER, no wonder it just looks mean and bigoted against that Customer.
well I agree that businesses general offers different services or products and may not offer all services or products of a particular business type.
I am not implying that the issue is what types of services or ceremonies to offer. If you do not offer the service then that is not an issue. If certain services cost more than other services then that is not the issue. It is a business.
First It was a generalization. IF one do not provide the service then that is not discrimination. IF one provide the service but refuse service based on discrimination then it is problematic.
Owners can have beliefs. Religious freedom is guaranteed. Public accommodation laws are the law and they provide protection from those who would discriminate.
Yet should religion discriminate.
public discrimination laws do not stop anyone from choosing a religion or what you beliefs.
Public discrimination laws just say treat people fairly. Yet does religion also say the say thing. Yes some will use religion as an excuse for war.