'Christian warrior' militia accused in plot to kill police

[PatekPhilippe]

Canter has a crazy libtard bastard threaten to kill him and his entire family....ya...let that one slide right?

I did not. I believe that man has been arrested and indicted, and rightfully so.

Of course, he's not the person who's bullet hit Cantor's campaign office window after being randomly shot into the air, but he's still a scumbag that needs to go to jail.

And, by the way, the suspect in the threatening is not a left-wing type. He's a religious fanatic.

Link please...to a credible source....and are you saying there are no left wing religious fanatics?

 

[saveliberty]

Phase II is going on today. The surreal part is, it is happening about 12 miles away from where I'm sitting. Those ATF personnel carriers are pretty big. Reporting seven hostages and a gunman.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

I hope this problem was nipped in the bud with these arrests.

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How many USMB posters did we lose with these arrests?

Where's Mr T? Lost Soul? Guatama?

I see Patek is still around, so they musta missed him in the round up.....

Mind your own fucking business ..... outsider.

 

[xotoxi]

ROFLMNAO...

Yeah, cause Michigan is just LOADED DOWN with extreme "rightwingers"...

They sure LOOK like Rightwingers...

But hey... what Unemployed Life Long Union MAN, isn't an Extreme RIGHTWINGER?

I don't know what Michigan is "loaded with". I do know that as far as I can see these particular people are about as right wing as you can get.

But as I said, terrorists come in all stripes. These particular terrorists happen to be radical right-wing terrorists.

You can photo-shop pictures all you want, it doesn't change the facts of the case.

"I don't know what Michigan is loaded with..." Yeah... I'd say that that's about right.

Of course, I do know what Michigan is loaded with; lived there, worked there... have friends and family there.

Michigan is a culture where they FULLY BELIEVE that they're entitled to free healthcare; free dental care; a GOOD PAYING JOB... and by GOD! if the government can't get 'em that job then they're ENTITLED TO BE PAID BY THE GOVERNMENT, UNTIL THE GOVERNMENT DOES GET 'EM A JOB!

You couldn't get a poker game together with the "Right Wingers" living in Michigan...

And here's the thing... The Extreme RIGHT WINGERS are employed... probably self employed and if they're domiciled in Michigan; odds are they're working out of town right now... or they've long since departed Michigan all together; as Michigan has one of, if not the highest unemployment in the nation.

Extreme Rightwingers aren't looking to kill local cops; in truth, most local cops fall well within the working definition of "extreme rightwingers"...

Thus we're readily able to discern that the backstory being advanced here is bogus.

These cranks are unemployed Union Democrats... who likely spent WAY too much time drinkin' and WAY too much time shooting their mouths off.

I expect that they'll get a sound jerkin' around; they'll plea out and this thing will never get anywhere NEAR a trial.

But we'll see... won't we?

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[xotoxi]

Well posted, very neutral and non-confrontational OP.

I'm actually shocked that this domestic terrorist plot is not blanketing the airwaves at the moment.

The media are busy trying to work out whether they can pretend these dudes are ardent supporters of the TEA Party.

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[xotoxi]

ROFLMNAO...

Sure.... Because there's nothing political about projecting Unemployed Union Workers from one of the most Left-wing States in the US as RIGHTWING EXTREMISTS...

As usual... You're ALL OVER IT!

New York is much more left-wing than Michigan, and there's plenty of crazy right-wingers here.

Is it your opinion that because the majority of the population of a state leans one way, there are in fact no people in that state that lean the other way?

Oh, and a link to prove that those people were all "union members" would be appreciated. Thanks.

I don't have a link... I am stating my considered opinion... Having lived in Michigan; worked in Michigan and have extensive experience with the mindset of the typical Michiganner...

I'm perfectly prepared to concede if evidence comes along which conclusively demonstrates that these cranks were not the typical Union Shop tools, who sit around the local bar all day, talking about 'the camp' and how they're getting' ready for Deer season... or Duck season...

Whose camp is a shack in the woods, where they go loaded for bear and spend long weekends sitting around smoking pot and getting hammered; rarely leaving 'the camp' to actually do any hunting...

Can't make it any more clear than that... They are the ignorant masses... the epitome of Progressivism... PROUD AMERICANS ALL! Who bargain collectively for their jobs, pay their Union Dues and count the days to their 'retirement'... so that they can do the exact same damn thing they've done their entire workin' life... sit at the bar, smoke pot, drink and talk about going to the woods...

They're YOU dipshit. They FEEL like because they LIVE in America, that makes 'em AMERICANS! They are up their their NECKS IN RIGHTS! And they KNOW 'EM all.

They're just not real big on 'responsibility'...

So sit back and enjoy the run... I'm just tellin' ya... Rightwing Christian Soldiers don't plot to murder local cops... We don't do it. And we don't do it, because it's something that is diametrically opposed to everything we stand for.

Give it time... and I think you'll find I'm closer to the truth here, than you're gonna be comfortable with.

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[xotoxi]

Well posted, very neutral and non-confrontational OP.

I'm actually shocked that this domestic terrorist plot is not blanketing the airwaves at the moment.

The media are busy trying to work out whether they can pretend these dudes are ardent supporters of the TEA Party.

Bingo. I can see the Communist Network News and the Most Socialist Network 'Bama Channel drooling over labeling this as Tea Partiers or Christians. Yet Obama and his liars now have placed 51% control of our economy in the hands of the Federal Government.

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[PubliusInfinitum]

You know that line about eternal vigilance? It pays to keep both eyes open. It's very true that the indictment hasn't been proven yet and that has to be borne in mind. However, there is an indictment, it's not a figment of someone's imagination. It would be a sign of maturity and simple common sense to accept that extremists of the left or the right are a danger to a liberal democratic society.

There is no such thing as an extreme right winger... Can't happen... an ideological impossibility.

But let's take this case as a classic example of the idiocy common to the ruse in which you're presently failing.

Who here would argue that the Right Wing is NOT the "law and order crowd"? That the Right Wing is not the wing of high moral standards and sound, sustainable principle; the Responsibility wing; the personal accountability wing?
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Those of you with your hand up; you're idiots and you're dismissed...

Now, look at the photos of those clowns... See anything apporaching a high standard, personal responsibility, accountability or moral clairty jumping out atcha?

Thank you...

And you're welcome. Now go forth and use your newfound knowledge, responsibly...

 

[xotoxi]

You know that line about eternal vigilance? It pays to keep both eyes open. It's very true that the indictment hasn't been proven yet and that has to be borne in mind. However, there is an indictment, it's not a figment of someone's imagination. It would be a sign of maturity and simple common sense to accept that extremists of the left or the right are a danger to a liberal democratic society.

It's also a sign of maturity to admit that of all the ridiculous, bizarro claims made against "right wingers" in the last few weeks, NONE of them have been true. Not the brick story, not the racist epithet story, not the spitting story, nor any of the "extremist" stories.

That's how the Democrats garner sympathy and paint the growing Tea Party movement as extremists.....just begin to fill the airwaves with baseless accusations and lies....oh wait....they've been doing that since January 21st 2001.

You do realize that this thread was intended to just be a report of some very dangerous people that were arrested.

You should be happy that a potential murder was averted rather than spinning it.

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

New York is much more left-wing than Michigan, and there's plenty of crazy right-wingers here.

Is it your opinion that because the majority of the population of a state leans one way, there are in fact no people in that state that lean the other way?

Oh, and a link to prove that those people were all "union members" would be appreciated. Thanks.

I don't have a link... I am stating my considered opinion... Having lived in Michigan; worked in Michigan and have extensive experience with the mindset of the typical Michiganner...

I'm perfectly prepared to concede if evidence comes along which conclusively demonstrates that these cranks were not the typical Union Shop tools, who sit around the local bar all day, talking about 'the camp' and how they're getting' ready for Deer season... or Duck season...

Whose camp is a shack in the woods, where they go loaded for bear and spend long weekends sitting around smoking pot and getting hammered; rarely leaving 'the camp' to actually do any hunting...

Can't make it any more clear than that... They are the ignorant masses... the epitome of Progressivism... PROUD AMERICANS ALL! Who bargain collectively for their jobs, pay their Union Dues and count the days to their 'retirement'... so that they can do the exact same damn thing they've done their entire workin' life... sit at the bar, smoke pot, drink and talk about going to the woods...

They're YOU dipshit. They FEEL like because they LIVE in America, that makes 'em AMERICANS! They are up their their NECKS IN RIGHTS! And they KNOW 'EM all.

They're just not real big on 'responsibility'...

So sit back and enjoy the run... I'm just tellin' ya... Rightwing Christian Soldiers don't plot to murder local cops... We don't do it. And we don't do it, because it's something that is diametrically opposed to everything we stand for.

Give it time... and I think you'll find I'm closer to the truth here, than you're gonna be comfortable with.

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[The T]

I hope this problem was nipped in the bud with these arrests.

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How many USMB posters did we lose with these arrests?

Where's Mr T? Lost Soul? Guatama?

I see Patek is still around, so they musta missed him in the round up.....

Where's who?

 

[xotoxi]

There is no such thing as an extreme right winger... Can't happen... an ideological impossibility.

You don't own a mirror, do you?

 

[Vast LWC]

What is the Right wing? It's people who believe in INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY... is it not?

So what would an EXTREME RIGHT WINGER be? Some who REALLY BELIEVES in INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY...

Count me amongst that group...

That is entirely dependent on the right-winger in question. There are a wide range of beliefs that fall under the title "right-wing", just like there are a wide-range of beliefs that fall under the category, "left-wing".

In modern terminology, the "right-wing" is generally indentifiable by:

• Anti-Government sentiment
• Support for individual rights in terms of economics, guns and religion
• Support of projecting US military power
• Support of restrictions on "immoral behavior", usually based on:
• Fundamentalist religious beliefs
• Strong opposition to taxation

Some right-wing folks only belong to 2 or 3 of these categories, some all of them.

Now in my experience, the people who YOU PEOPLE call extreme RIGHT WINGERS are YOU! Leftists who just happen to believe in a competing '-ism' to your strain of the infection... but who are every bit as leftist as you are.

Skin-heads, Neo-Nazis; National Socialists... All LEFTISTS..

Completely untrue. Nazi-ism was labeled "Socialism" incorrectly. It was a fascist system that only practiced socialism up until the point the corporations were handed out to private owners, forming "Cartels", usually made up of party cronies.

Mussolini famously said that fascism would more correctly be labeled "Corporatism".

And these cranks in Michigan are no exception.

Or are you saying that among the multiple millions of people in Michigan, there is no possible chance that right-wing extremists might be part of the population?

Yep... that's what I'm sayin'... at least the toothless 'rightwing extremist' that you erroneously believe exist.

As I said the Rightwingers are fully employed; probably self employed or are on the front line of public service, in the Police fire-fighter or US military...

Michigan has plenty of those folks... and many of them have cabins int he woods... which usually sit along a lake, are neat and tidy, well maintained and NONE of them belong to any Militia.

You are making some really large generalizations, that I believe to be inaccurate. I think perhaps you know that they are inaccurate.

 

[Dr Grump]

How many USMB posters did we lose with these arrests?

Where's Mr T? Lost Soul? Guatama?

I see Patek is still around, so they musta missed him in the round up.....

Mind your own fucking business ..... outsider.

 

[Dr Grump]

How many USMB posters did we lose with these arrests?

Where's Mr T? Lost Soul? Guatama?

I see Patek is still around, so they musta missed him in the round up.....

Where's who?

They got keyboards in prison? What a waste of taxpayers' money...

 

[The T]

If they're libertarians, and it sounds like they are, they're not right-wingers.

Libertarians are in fact right-wingers.

Define it. And NO Dictionary allowed. YOUR own words...GO!

 

[The T]

Where's Mr T? Lost Soul? Guatama?

I see Patek is still around, so they musta missed him in the round up.....

Where's who?

They got keyboards in prison? What a waste of taxpayers' money...

What the fuck are you babbling about?

 

[Vast LWC]

If they're libertarians, and it sounds like they are, they're not right-wingers.

Libertarians are in fact right-wingers.

Troll post rating: 9

Keep up the good work.

? Mine, or his?

 

[AllieBaba]

What is the Right wing? It's people who believe in INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY... is it not?

So what would an EXTREME RIGHT WINGER be? Some who REALLY BELIEVES in INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY...

Count me amongst that group...

That is entirely dependent on the right-winger in question. There are a wide range of beliefs that fall under the title "right-wing", just like there are a wide-range of beliefs that fall under the category, "left-wing".

In modern terminology, the "right-wing" is generally indentifiable by:

• Anti-Government sentiment
• Support for individual rights in terms of economics, guns and religion
• Support of projecting US military power
• Support of restrictions on "immoral behavior", usually based on:
• Fundamentalist religious beliefs
• Strong opposition to taxation

Some right-wing folks only belong to 2 or 3 of these categories, some all of them.

Now in my experience, the people who YOU PEOPLE call extreme RIGHT WINGERS are YOU! Leftists who just happen to believe in a competing '-ism' to your strain of the infection... but who are every bit as leftist as you are.

Skin-heads, Neo-Nazis; National Socialists... All LEFTISTS..

Completely untrue. Nazi-ism was labeled "Socialism" incorrectly. It was a fascist system that only practiced socialism up until the point the corporations were handed out to private owners, forming "Cartels", usually made up of party cronies.

Mussolini famously said that fascism would more correctly be labeled "Corporatism".

And these cranks in Michigan are no exception.

Or are you saying that among the multiple millions of people in Michigan, there is no possible chance that right-wing extremists might be part of the population?

Yep... that's what I'm sayin'... at least the toothless 'rightwing extremist' that you erroneously believe exist.

As I said the Rightwingers are fully employed; probably self employed or are on the front line of public service, in the Police fire-fighter or US military...

Michigan has plenty of those folks... and many of them have cabins int he woods... which usually sit along a lake, are neat and tidy, well maintained and NONE of them belong to any Militia.

You are making some really large generalizations, that I believe to be inaccurate. I think perhaps you know that they are inaccurate.

Don't use large generalizations, says the retard who just generally described right wingers as fundamental Christian anti-government yahoos.

 

[Vast LWC]

Canter has a crazy libtard bastard threaten to kill him and his entire family....ya...let that one slide right?

I did not. I believe that man has been arrested and indicted, and rightfully so.

Of course, he's not the person who's bullet hit Cantor's campaign office window after being randomly shot into the air, but he's still a scumbag that needs to go to jail.

And, by the way, the suspect in the threatening is not a left-wing type. He's a religious fanatic.

Link please...to a credible source....and are you saying there are no left wing religious fanatics?

Link for what? The police report on the bullet? Or the fact that this guy was a religious fanatic?

All you have to do is read his threats to know that.