Christian bakers who refused to make cake for homosexual "wedding" break gag order

[WorldWatcher]

Yeah you say good job until there is a religion you don't believe in that discriminates against you. For instance, if someone says their religion excludes serving black people or Christians, then religious freedom folks will claim that isn't a "valid" religion.

Remember folks, religious freedom is only for Christians. Anyone else they aren't "valid".

Oh, that can't be the case.

See if you have religious objections to interracial marriage - those beliefs don't matter.

If you have religious objections to interfaith marriage - those beliefs don't matter.

If you have religoius objections to providing services to someone that is divorced - those beliefs don't matter.



This singles out same-sex marriages only for special treatment.


Missouri Religious Exemption Measure Advances


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[Silhouette]

Since I don't believe homosexuality is a sin, your point is moot. If you yourself think it is a sin, don't do it yourself. Otherwise, piss off with your morals and stick them where the sun don't shine.

No see that's just the thing. What you think and feel about Christian morals, including homosexuality not being allowed to insert itself into the core of any society (like it is using marriage today) is irrelevant to others' 1st Amendment rights to not participate. Your not giving a shit about the Klein's morals doesn't affect that their right to refuse to enable homosexuality taking over our culture. They have that right. And the reason they have that right is that it is specifically supported by acute reference in two places in the US Constitution. Whereas with just some deviant sex behaviors but not others, each and all repugnant to the majority, there is no written protection anywhere in the Constitution....for anything related to deviant sex behaviors....including marriage. The words "sexual orientation" do not appear anywhere in the US Constitution.

Loving v Virginia did not disrupt existing state laws that said "marriage is between a man and a woman". There are few examples in state law that say "marriage is between any combination of adults whatsoever". Any state that says "marriage is allowed regardless of sexual orientation" can currently be sued by polygamists and incest or any other adult combination for different types of sexual orientation. Worldwatcher above just outlined why polygamy and incest marriage are already legal according to the logic and Ruling of Obergefell: when it comes to sexual orientation, they cannot be singled out for exclusion...

And remember, kids are always involved when the word "marriage" comes up, as the Rule. So when these types of adult arrangements are sanctioned by a state, the state will have to bear the outfall of the fruits of those rotten trees. Some return on tax-break investments, eh?

 

[g5000]

Yeah you say good job until there is a religion you don't believe in that discriminates against you. For instance, if someone says their religion excludes serving black people or Christians, then religious freedom folks will claim that isn't a "valid" religion.

Remember folks, religious freedom is only for Christians. Anyone else they aren't "valid".

Oh, that can't be the case.

See if you have religious objections to interracial marriage - those beliefs don't matter.

If you have religious objections to interfaith marriage - those beliefs don't matter.

If you have religoius objections to providing services to someone that is divorced - those beliefs don't matter.



This singles out same-sex marriages only for special treatment.


Missouri Religious Exemption Measure Advances


>>>>

These bozos bleev you should be able to refuse service to a negro at your lunch counter.

 

[Silhouette]

Race has absolutely nothing to do with sexual behaviors. It is insulting to people of race to say it does.

Lesbians are an insult to normality.

As is left-handedness and eating the recommended amount of fruits and vegetables every day.

Here's a question I've asked dozens of times to your ilk as well: I know of two identical twin girls raised by lesbians: one butch, one femme. One of the twin girls identifies as a lesbian as an adult, the other normal. So, your analogy falls flat on its face. Gays are not "born that way". One example of identical twin DNA is all that is needed. The acquisition of sexual behavior occurred after birth; unlike race which is determined from DNA.

 

[g5000]

Lesbians are an insult to normality.

As is left-handedness and eating the recommended amount of fruits and vegetables every day.

Here's a question I've asked dozens of times to your ilk as well: I know of two identical twin girls raised by lesbians: one butch, one femme. One of the twin girls identifies as a lesbian as an adult, the other normal. So, your analogy falls flat on its face. Gays are not "born that way". One example of identical twin DNA is all that is needed. The acquisition of sexual behavior occurred after birth.

Tell me about twins where one likes carrots and one doesn't. Is there a carrot gene? Idiot.

Why is it so important to you that homosexuality be a choice?

It isn't, by the way.

But why is that so important to you?

As far as human rights go, it makes no difference. Should the right to own a gun be determined by whether or not a person wants a gun is genetic?

 

[g5000]

Identical twins who are discordant in their ability to roll their tongues: IDENTICAL TWINS DISCORDANT IN TONGUE-ROLLING

 

[g5000]

Discordant growth in identical twins: Discordant growth in identical twins - Multiples and Twins - WhatToExpect.com

 

[g5000]

Understanding Genetics

Another physical difference between identical twins is their fingerprints. The fingerprints of identical twins do look more similar than the fingerprints of non-twins. This is because your fingerprints are partially controlled by your genes.

But they are not exactly the same.

 

[Disgruntled_American]

Since I don't believe homosexuality is a sin, your point is moot. If you yourself think it is a sin, don't do it yourself. Otherwise, piss off with your morals and stick them where the sun don't shine.

No see that's just the thing. What you think and feel about Christian morals, including homosexuality not being allowed to insert itself into the core of any society (like it is using marriage today) is irrelevant to others' 1st Amendment rights to not participate. Your not giving a shit about the Klein's morals doesn't affect that their right to refuse to enable homosexuality taking over our culture. They have that right. And the reason they have that right is that it is specifically supported by acute reference in two places in the US Constitution. Whereas with just some deviant sex behaviors but not others, each and all repugnant to the majority, there is no written protection anywhere in the Constitution....for anything related to deviant sex behaviors....including marriage. The words "sexual orientation" do not appear anywhere in the US Constitution.

Loving v Virginia did not disrupt existing state laws that said "marriage is between a man and a woman". There are few examples in state law that say "marriage is between any combination of adults whatsoever". Any state that says "marriage is allowed regardless of sexual orientation" can currently be sued by polygamists and incest or any other adult combination for different types of sexual orientation. Worldwatcher above just outlined why polygamy and incest marriage are already legal according to the logic and Ruling of Obergefell: when it comes to sexual orientation, they cannot be singled out for exclusion...

And remember, kids are always involved when the word "marriage" comes up, as the Rule. So when these types of adult arrangements are sanctioned by a state, the state will have to bear the outfall of the fruits of those rotten trees. Some return on tax-break investments, eh?

You want to be able to dictate homosexuals lives and what they can or cannot do. You don't care about anyone else's morals but your own. The simple fact is excluding gays from marriage was unconstitutional and now bigots like yourself can't discriminate against gays. Oh well, sucks to be you. If you want a Christian Taliban go to another country cunty.

You keep bringing up kids, guess what, regardless whether same-sex marriage was legal or not KIDS WERE STILL BEING RAISED BY GAY PEOPLE. Your excuses are idiotic and have been proven wrong. Sucks to be you lol

 

[Silhouette]

Understanding Genetics

Another physical difference between identical twins is their fingerprints. The fingerprints of identical twins do look more similar than the fingerprints of non-twins. This is because your fingerprints are partially controlled by your genes.

But they are not exactly the same.

Bullshit. Identical is identical. Either they're identical twins or they're not. Either the same fertilized egg with the same DNA split apart into two early on or it didn't. Caso cerrado.

 

[Disgruntled_American]

Understanding Genetics

Another physical difference between identical twins is their fingerprints. The fingerprints of identical twins do look more similar than the fingerprints of non-twins. This is because your fingerprints are partially controlled by your genes.

But they are not exactly the same.

Bullshit. Identical is identical. Either they're identical twins or they're not. Either the same fertilized egg with the same DNA split apart into two early on or it didn't. Caso cerrado.

Again you have no idea on biology. The fetuses (Yes, even identical) still develops in the womb with differences. Learn biology instead of being a dumb blonde.

 

[Silhouette]

Again you have no idea on biology. The fetuses (Yes, even identical) still develops in the womb with differences. Learn biology instead of being a dumb blonde.

So now suddenly the same womb, the same pregnancy, the same identical DNA will result in "different identical twins". Taking a layman named "Disgruntled-American's" internet blogging advice, we must discard all the other vast studies done on identical twins "because they're not truly identical"..

Yes, after they're born, they can go in different directions, but not before dear. And that's called environment vs innate. Behaviors acquired do not a "race" of people make. As I've said, the identical twin girls raised by lesbians I know of, one went gay and the other straight. They WENT that way; they were NOT "born that way"..

And so *poof* goes the premise that Obergefell was Ruled falsely upon..

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Yes, after they're born, they can go in different directions, but not before dear.

Wrong, as wrong as you can be.

Do try and at least meet reality, one of these years eh?

"Despite sharing the same womb, identical twins are born with different alterations to their DNA that can affect the activity of individual genes.

These modifications, known as epigenetic markers, are thought to be caused by environmental factors. The process adds chemical tags to the DNA, which alters a gene's activity, but not its sequence.

Although previous studies have shown that identical twins do have different sets of epigenetic markers, it was thought that the changes occurred after birth, when the twins experience different environments. However, in this, the first analysis of the epigenetic profiles of newborn human babies, the team from Murdoch Children's Research Institute, Australia show that differences are already apparent straight after birth."

BIONEWS - Identical twins start to differ in the womb, study shows

 

[Silhouette]

Yes, after they're born, they can go in different directions, but not before dear.

Wrong, as wrong as you can be.

With no citations or links ^^

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Yes, after they're born, they can go in different directions, but not before dear.

Wrong, as wrong as you can be.

With no citations or links ^^

See above, dummy...

And now below...

 

[PaintMyHouse]

"Despite sharing the same womb, identical twins are born with different alterations to their DNA that can affect the activity of individual genes.

These modifications, known as epigenetic markers, are thought to be caused by environmental factors. The process adds chemical tags to the DNA, which alters a gene's activity, but not its sequence.

Although previous studies have shown that identical twins do have different sets of epigenetic markers, it was thought that the changes occurred after birth, when the twins experience different environments. However, in this, the first analysis of the epigenetic profiles of newborn human babies, the team from Murdoch Children's Research Institute, Australia show that differences are already apparent straight after birth."

BIONEWS - Identical twins start to differ in the womb, study shows

 

[Silhouette]

uh huh...and the number of peers agreeing with that analysis? ^^

Whereas there are over 300 peer-reviewed studies supporting this analysis: http://www-psychology.concordia.ca/fac/pfaus/Pfaus-Kippin-Centeno(2001).pdf (see the last several pages of citations as well as the study's title they support)

Conditioning and Sexual Behavior: A Review
James G. Pfaus,Tod E. Kippin, and Soraya Centeno
Center for Studies in Behavioral Neurobiology, Department of Psychology, Concordia
University, 1455 deMaisonneuve Bldg. W., Montreal, Quebec, H3G 1M8 Canada

 

[PaintMyHouse]

uh huh...and the number of peers agreeing with that analysis? ^^

Whereas there are over 300 peer-reviewed studies supporting this analysis: http://www-psychology.concordia.ca/fac/pfaus/Pfaus-Kippin-Centeno(2001).pdf (see the last several pages of citations as well as the study's title they support)

Conditioning and Sexual Behavior: A Review
James G. Pfaus,Tod E. Kippin, and Soraya Centeno
Center for Studies in Behavioral Neurobiology, Department of Psychology, Concordia
University, 1455 deMaisonneuve Bldg. W., Montreal, Quebec, H3G 1M8 Canada

Sexuality, like life, is complicated. Your black and white world does not exist beyond your own head.

 

[AmericanFirst1]

Doesn't stop conservatives from whacking off to lesbian porn though.

The best. With two girls there must be room for at least one guy, so we think...

I doubt you can think.

You have no capacity to judge...

I am not judging, just pointing out the obvious.

The obvious is you aren't worth the time of day, which is why your comments are almost never responded to.

The obvious is you are a pin headed libtard commie who doesn't deserve a response. It doesn't bother me you don't respond, I hate commies!

 

[AmericanFirst1]

uh huh...and the number of peers agreeing with that analysis? ^^

Whereas there are over 300 peer-reviewed studies supporting this analysis: http://www-psychology.concordia.ca/fac/pfaus/Pfaus-Kippin-Centeno(2001).pdf (see the last several pages of citations as well as the study's title they support)

Conditioning and Sexual Behavior: A Review
James G. Pfaus,Tod E. Kippin, and Soraya Centeno
Center for Studies in Behavioral Neurobiology, Department of Psychology, Concordia
University, 1455 deMaisonneuve Bldg. W., Montreal, Quebec, H3G 1M8 Canada

Sexuality, like life, is complicated. Your black and white world does not exist beyond your own head.

Complicated for you.