Christian bakers who refused cake order for gay wedding forced to close shop

[bodecea]

When gay bars, clubs, coffee shops and restaurants refuse entry to women( pun not intended) should women boycott those venues?
Is there a law preventing such elitist segregation?
Reports of increasing assaults in PTown MA against the local fishing community.
The breeders are being forced out.

You, of course, have links to women being refused entry to gay bars and the fishing community being forced out of P-Town.

 

[bodecea]

When gay bars, clubs, coffee shops and restaurants refuse entry to women( pun not intended) should women boycott those venues?
Is there a law preventing such elitist segregation?
Reports of increasing assaults in PTown MA against the local fishing community.
The breeders are being forced out.

i have never been ask to leave a gay bar....you do realize that a gay bar allows male and female gays...

the only time anything has been closed off to me...i was in a gay book store for men....i was ask to stay in the front of the bookstore and not to enter the back areas which were reading rooms for the men only.....i thought the term 'reading rooms' was polite and quaint lol

Did I say all gay bars?
There are many establishments that segregate according to sexual orientation.
The vast majority of them are gay bars.
Some are men only gay bars.
Some are women only gay bars.
The violence in Province town against "breeders" the term "breeders"?

You have no issue with?

I know many gays who are angered by this hate from their fellow gays.

Many gays are breeders too. But you seem to think being a breeder is a bad thing.

Perhaps in your case it might be........

 

[bodecea]

When gay bars, clubs, coffee shops and restaurants refuse entry to women( pun not intended) should women boycott those venues?
Is there a law preventing such elitist segregation?
Reports of increasing assaults in PTown MA against the local fishing community.
The breeders are being forced out.

i have never been ask to leave a gay bar....you do realize that a gay bar allows male and female gays...

the only time anything has been closed off to me...i was in a gay book store for men....i was ask to stay in the front of the bookstore and not to enter the back areas which were reading rooms for the men only.....i thought the term 'reading rooms' was polite and quaint lol

I know all about Gay Bars.
I worked as a doorman at a club in manchesters village for 3 years.
Some have a men only rule, others have a women only rule.
Most have a no straight rule.

Cool Story, Bro.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

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I wonder what kind of pressure the vendors were under that they chose to act against this couple.

Maybe they saw what is purported to be a facebook rant by the couple (and deleted not long after)

Screenshot

Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences. If you don't want your words seen, don't post them on line....pretty simple. Especially if you connect those words to your business...as many who have been fired can attest.

Am I free to level consequences on you for believing a page designed to make someone look bad? Shouldn't you apologize for believing that people are hateful racists when they weren't?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

You have to like us or else
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Someone who has a business who rejects christians of a certain ilk then posts such a hateful Facebook diatribe against christians would deserve to go under too.

No they wouldn't.

 

[bodecea]

Maybe they saw what is purported to be a facebook rant by the couple (and deleted not long after)

Screenshot

Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences. If you don't want your words seen, don't post them on line....pretty simple. Especially if you connect those words to your business...as many who have been fired can attest.

Am I free to level consequences on you for believing a page designed to make someone look bad? Shouldn't you apologize for believing that people are hateful racists when they weren't?

Nice defense. Please provide proof that that page is fake....including any denial of the couple that that is their page. (would be a good start)

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences. If you don't want your words seen, don't post them on line....pretty simple. Especially if you connect those words to your business...as many who have been fired can attest.

Am I free to level consequences on you for believing a page designed to make someone look bad? Shouldn't you apologize for believing that people are hateful racists when they weren't?

Nice defense. Please provide proof that that page is fake....including any denial of the couple that that is their page. (would be a good start)

Right after you post a link to the page with the racist remarks, or anything else that they posted anywhere that is remotely racist.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Quite funny you folks only focus on the Old Testament. Try reading the whole bible, like that meme suggests. There's a New Testament in there too you know.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Simple question.

What if this was a homosexual bakery refusing service to Christians? Would any of you pro equality liberals be squealing your heads off right now? I highly think not. Think about it. And then think about how hypocritical you are.

Good night.

 

[BDBoop]

Simple question.

What if this was a homosexual bakery refusing service to Christians? Would any of you pro equality liberals be squealing your heads off right now? I highly think not. Think about it. And then think about how hypocritical you are.

Good night.

They wouldn't do that, having been on the receiving end of such bullshit for so long.

 

[Political Junky]

When gay bars, clubs, coffee shops and restaurants refuse entry to women( pun not intended) should women boycott those venues?
Is there a law preventing such elitist segregation?
Reports of increasing assaults in PTown MA against the local fishing community.
The breeders are being forced out.

I'm sure the gay establishments wouldn't mind being boycotted by women.

 

[Kooshdakhaa]

Okay, well; now that you're done making it all about you, care to discuss the subject of the OP?

I was discussing the subject. Obviously, I'm on the side of the Christian cake bakers on this one.

 

[paperview]

Spreading hate?
How were they spreading hate?
Refusing to sell something to someone is not spreading anything.
...

The couple had previously ordered a cake from them, (though not a wedding cake) -- they were what every business owner wants: repeat customers.

When they ordered what they wanted to be a cake for a same-sex wedding, the owner called them "abominations" and told them their "money was not equal."

The owner doesn't deny he called them abominations.

Because: Jesus!

 

[paperview]

Simple question.

What if this was a homosexual bakery refusing service to Christians? Would any of you pro equality liberals be squealing your heads off right now? I highly think not. Think about it. And then think about how hypocritical you are.

Good night.

They wouldn't do that, having been on the receiving end of such bullshit for so long.

"whatever you do unto the yeast of my brethren, you do unto me"

 

[Sunni Man]

The Christian bakery should have displayed this sign in the window and then there wouldn't be an issue.

 

[Noomi]

^but they won't say that they refuse to serve gay people, they are too gutless.

 

[NoNukes]

When gay bars, clubs, coffee shops and restaurants refuse entry to women( pun not intended) should women boycott those venues?
Is there a law preventing such elitist segregation?
Reports of increasing assaults in PTown MA against the local fishing community.
The breeders are being forced out.

I'm sure the gay establishments wouldn't mind being boycotted by women.

I used to tend bar in a gay bar in New York City and I never came up against anyone with an objection to me working there. If anything, just the opposite was true. Sometimes after work I would go out to gay bars and clubs with friends who I worked with. Quite often, there were straight women with us. I never witnessed a place that had a no straights or no women policy.

 

[paperview]

The law in question.

Relating to sexual orientation discrimination; creating new provisions; amending ORS 10.030, 20.107, 30.860, 93.

Link to a recent story and a 10 minute interview with the couple:

Sweet Cakes owners respond to firestorm over wedding cake decision | Local & Regional | KATU.com - Portland News, Sports, Traffic Weather and Breaking News - Portland, Oregon

First out of the gate dude says the bakery was "too much on his plate" - been in the works for a while, he has another 40 hour a week job...

He also says of the lesbian couple: ""I didn't want to be a part of her marriage" then...says "there's a lot of closed minded people out there."

They both get bonus points for each of them using the phrase "shove it down [their] throat."

They were not pressured by the state to close down, at all, both of them said.

Side note: they have 5 kids. "My kids need me." Mom says she used to think "wish I was back at home" and not in an open shop. Less stress.

From the sounds of it, they are just fine with closing it down and working out of their house. (which, by the way, they are still subject to state laws).

 

[editec]

This thread is predicated on a lie.

These people were not driven out of business. their business failed and this is their last ditch effort to get some free publicity

This entire thread is nothing but a bunch of USMB homophobes getting their panties in a collective bunch over a big fat lie.

Morons.

 

[paperview]

Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences. If you don't want your words seen, don't post them on line....pretty simple. Especially if you connect those words to your business...as many who have been fired can attest.

Am I free to level consequences on you for believing a page designed to make someone look bad? Shouldn't you apologize for believing that people are hateful racists when they weren't?

Nice defense. Please provide proof that that page is fake....including any denial of the couple that that is their page. (would be a good start)

I can't verify, so that is why I said purported to be...

He had his own Facebook page as well (which links the Sweet Cakes page)

He seems to be the right-wing Blaze 'n Fox loving knuckle-dragger birther type, who even on a political rant about Obama can't help but hate them gheys.

"Send him back to his socialist utopian gay rights loving homeland. And all the people that think like him can go too."

A 2012 post from his own page. Not likely hacked.

The story from February 6th detailed here:

Aaron Klein's homophobic Obama rant (Photos) - Las Vegas Democrat | Examiner.com