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China’s Socialist Government Pulls Popular TV Program;What Dem’s Want for US
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except that you're now back to someone having to determine what "spin" is.":requiring" how a business should be run in accordance with MY standards to me sounds like the left demanding their way is the right way.So, with the exception of the current and former presidents trying to go after the news sources that dare say bad things about them, we have private citizens trying to change things they do not agree with. It does not seem anyone is trying to get the government involved, so it is not socialism.
Let me ask, are your examples above fundamentally different than Conservatives boycotting Target for not saying Merry Christmas or Starbucks because their Christmas cups are not Christmasy enough?
Or Christians boycotting Disney because Disney has a day set aside for gay pride?
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Another full blown Lefty has hacked the account of Gator again....
“News” agencies should be required to report known FACTS without ANY bias. They should not have the freedom to defame and slander while hiding behind “editorial” values. News agencies have become nothing more than talk shows pushing an agenda. You should support your President in his quest to hold media to a standard.
Christian beliefs and values are and have always been the core, the foundation for what made and makes America the greatest nation on earth. That said; supporting those who seek to compromise Christian values is kin to supporting those who seek to change and compromise American values. Seems fucking stupid...right?
whos going to determine what is and is not news to me? to you? to someone in kansas with a very different lifestyle?
if you don't like what someone is doing, stop watching and support it with LOOK AT THEM type stuff.
This has nothing to do with “my standards”. This is about real news vs. fake news. Any news with spin or bias is and should be considered fake news.
“News” isn’t and shouldn’t be an opinion piece...what’s news to me should be the same news to you.
The fact is; news agencies, in an attempt to grow their viewership have morphed into propaganda machines with an agenda...they’ trying to compete with “shows”, they have lost their way and they should not be provided with the “free press” label.
You didn’t know that companies are required to follow regulatory measures and guidelines set forth by government agencies?
i'm 100% down for the news / media to correct itself. but demanding they follow a certain path? i don't see much of a difference of one side asking for it or the other.
telling exxon they can't dump oil into the river to me isn't the same as telling CBS what the facts of a story are and what they can and can't report.
“Spin” is blurred or embellished facts/truths...this isn’t all that complex.
Truth and facts do not have two sides to them.
Lots of companies and entire industries are required to be 100% truthful under law. The notion that journalists and news agencies should operate 100% truthfully and without bias is that far fetched for you?
Can you give an example of a news story from any source that is 100% truthful and without any bias?
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Who gets to decide the facts?except that you're now back to someone having to determine what "spin" is.":requiring" how a business should be run in accordance with MY standards to me sounds like the left demanding their way is the right way.Another full blown Lefty has hacked the account of Gator again....
“News” agencies should be required to report known FACTS without ANY bias. They should not have the freedom to defame and slander while hiding behind “editorial” values. News agencies have become nothing more than talk shows pushing an agenda. You should support your President in his quest to hold media to a standard.
Christian beliefs and values are and have always been the core, the foundation for what made and makes America the greatest nation on earth. That said; supporting those who seek to compromise Christian values is kin to supporting those who seek to change and compromise American values. Seems fucking stupid...right?
whos going to determine what is and is not news to me? to you? to someone in kansas with a very different lifestyle?
if you don't like what someone is doing, stop watching and support it with LOOK AT THEM type stuff.
This has nothing to do with “my standards”. This is about real news vs. fake news. Any news with spin or bias is and should be considered fake news.
“News” isn’t and shouldn’t be an opinion piece...what’s news to me should be the same news to you.
The fact is; news agencies, in an attempt to grow their viewership have morphed into propaganda machines with an agenda...they’ trying to compete with “shows”, they have lost their way and they should not be provided with the “free press” label.
You didn’t know that companies are required to follow regulatory measures and guidelines set forth by government agencies?
i'm 100% down for the news / media to correct itself. but demanding they follow a certain path? i don't see much of a difference of one side asking for it or the other.
telling exxon they can't dump oil into the river to me isn't the same as telling CBS what the facts of a story are and what they can and can't report.
“Spin” is blurred or embellished facts/truths...this isn’t all that complex.
Truth and facts do not have two sides to them.
Lots of companies and entire industries are required to be 100% truthful under law. The notion that journalists and news agencies should operate 100% truthfully and without bias is that far fetched for you?
Why, the government of course...what could possibly go wrong in such a statist dream scenario?
BL would be happy as a pig in shit if the government controlled “truth”.
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BrokeLoser
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“News” agencies should be required to report known FACTS without ANY bias. They should not have the freedom to defame and slander while hiding behind “editorial” values. News agencies have become nothing more than talk shows pushing an agenda. You should support your President in his quest to hold media to a standard.
Such a entity does not exist and has not existed in my lifetime.
While it is a nice dream to have, it is nothing but a wet dream.
I would support the president on his quest to hold them to a higher standard if his quest included all news agencies and not just the ones that say mean things about him.
Christian beliefs and values are and have always been the core, the foundation for what made and makes America the greatest nation on earth. That said; supporting those who seek to compromise Christian values is kin to supporting those who seek to change and compromise American values. Seems fucking stupid...right?
The biggest, proudest racist on this forum is going to talk about Christian beliefs and values? That would be funny if it were not so pathetic. Jesus was not a racist, Jesus taught there was no race.
You worship a man that is on his third wife and who has cheated on all 3 of the wives and you want to bring up Christian beliefs? Have you read what Jesus has to say about divorce and adultery?
Honest question...have you ever even opened a bible let a alone read one?
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I’ve said it here many times before...every time one of you twisted fucks ask I tell you...I’M A TERRIBLE CHRISTIAN. Then I explain to the ignorant fools that one does not have to be a pastor to know that a Christian based society is one which perpetuates a higher grade society overall.
So, you claim that Christian values make a society a better place yet you refuse to embrace those values.
So, using your own standard you have no desire to work towards making your society a better place, you instead embrace the role of making it worse.
Interesting.
Look, you don’t take c@ck in your ass but you love your faggots...right?
Are you starting to get it?
How bout you iceberg
I do not love them, I just to not hate them like you do. Personally I could not care less about a person’s sexual preference, as it has no impact on my life at all.
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What are you talking about...I actually do embrace Christian values. When I say I’m a terrible Christian that does not mean that I don’t embrace the values. That means I’m not the best at “living” said values.
You don’t love homos, you don’t practice homosexuality but you are supportive of homos? Hmmm
You’re a smart guy...fuck, you’re the smartest guy in the room.
Why the hell would / could someone support or prefer a gayer, less Christian society? Do you simply ignore our past and historical data?
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but no criticism of the government
Awwww. come on Trumpster's "Who's the Enemy of the People"
Come on, you know this one........
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Apu:/—-/ Didn’t Libs demand Amos & Andy be taken off the air? Didn’t libs demand the Simpsons take the Deli owner character off the air because he was politically incorrect? This makes your charge of a Strawman argument null and void.
Links please
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‘Simpsons’ creator reveals why Apu is tainted now
Simpsons Alludes to Apu Stereotype Controversy, Documentarian Fires Back
as said in the episode:
“It’s hard to say…,” Lisa answered. “Something that started out decades ago and was applauded and inoffensive is now politically incorrect.” Turning to a framed photo of Kwik-E-Mart proprietor Apu on her nightstand, Lisa added: “What can you do?”
pretty sure a conservative didn't care about apu.
censoring our news:
AWFUL! Barack Obama Announces Plan to CENSOR Fox News (MUST READ) - The Political Insider
And so, if we’re going to change how Rep. John Boehner (R-OH) and Sen. Mitch McConnell think, we’re going to have to change how our body politic thinks, which means we’re going to have to change how the media reports on these issues, and how people’s impressions of what it’s like to struggle in this economy looks like. And how budgets connect to that. And that’s a hard process because that requires a much broader conversation than typically we have on the nightly news.
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sure sounds like he wants to dictate what goes on the news to me. now trump is around and he feuds with them daily and has revoked media passes from acosta (dunno if anyone else) and maybe somewhere in all his ramblings he's said the same about dictating how we provide the news. it's just as wrong here.
plenty of links out there of liberals stopping free speech (anti-fa, colleges not allowing conservative speakers, news sources being labeled good or bad, BY the left (if you see anyone on the right trying to validate news with a stamp of approval shoot me the link, i can't find one).
So, with the exception of the current and former presidents trying to go after the news sources that dare say bad things about them, we have private citizens trying to change things they do not agree with. It does not seem anyone is trying to get the government involved, so it is not socialism.
Let me ask, are your examples above fundamentally different than Conservatives boycotting Target for not saying Merry Christmas or Starbucks because their Christmas cups are not Christmasy enough?
Or Christians boycotting Disney because Disney has a day set aside for gay pride?
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Wait a second. If I recall the Obama Administration went after a Fox reporter and some AP reporters during 2 investigations over leaks of classified information. Not because Fox said dared say something bad about "Obama". Hell they were doing that for ....well his entire term. Never once did he refer to them as the "Enemy of the People"
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What are you talking about...I actually do embrace Christian values. When I say I’m a terrible Christian that does not mean that I don’t embrace the values. That means I’m not the best at “living” said values.
What a load of crap, either you embrace them and live them or you don’t. You choose not to live them, how is that embracing them?
You don’t love homos, you don’t practice homosexuality but you are supportive of homos? Hmmm
I support God’s design for freewill. As long as someone is not affecting my life or others around them I do not give a shit what they do. Unlike you I have no desire to control the lives of other people?
You’re a smart guy...fuck, you’re the smartest guy in the room.
Why the hell would / could someone support or prefer a gayer, less Christian society? Do you simply ignore our past and historical data?
You are really hung up on gay people, yet you ignore every other sin...why is that?
God speaks more about adultery and divorce than homosexuality, yet you have no problems with those...seems they are a bigger problem for our society than a few gay people.
God speaks more about greed and the love of money more than just about anything else, why no concern for those Christian values? Do you think gay people are a bigger problem than greed and the love of money?
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we already can't determine what is true because it's a left or right leaning site, ergo they lie. facts are not cut and dry across the board and even if they were, i was not a fan of obama's treatment of the media and i'm not a fan of trump getting into with them. those 2 are large contributors as to why our media is like it is now. a reflection of all of us.Who gets to decide the facts?except that you're now back to someone having to determine what "spin" is.":requiring" how a business should be run in accordance with MY standards to me sounds like the left demanding their way is the right way.
whos going to determine what is and is not news to me? to you? to someone in kansas with a very different lifestyle?
if you don't like what someone is doing, stop watching and support it with LOOK AT THEM type stuff.
This has nothing to do with “my standards”. This is about real news vs. fake news. Any news with spin or bias is and should be considered fake news.
“News” isn’t and shouldn’t be an opinion piece...what’s news to me should be the same news to you.
The fact is; news agencies, in an attempt to grow their viewership have morphed into propaganda machines with an agenda...they’ trying to compete with “shows”, they have lost their way and they should not be provided with the “free press” label.
You didn’t know that companies are required to follow regulatory measures and guidelines set forth by government agencies?
i'm 100% down for the news / media to correct itself. but demanding they follow a certain path? i don't see much of a difference of one side asking for it or the other.
telling exxon they can't dump oil into the river to me isn't the same as telling CBS what the facts of a story are and what they can and can't report.
“Spin” is blurred or embellished facts/truths...this isn’t all that complex.
Truth and facts do not have two sides to them.
Lots of companies and entire industries are required to be 100% truthful under law. The notion that journalists and news agencies should operate 100% truthfully and without bias is that far fetched for you?
Why, the government of course...what could possibly go wrong in such a statist dream scenario?
BL would be happy as a pig in shit if the government controlled “truth”.
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i want more from our media. i want them held accountable. HOW to do that is a very difficult question and if you don't get that, then to me you're simply contributing to the problem to begin with.
evenflow1969
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Your party is the only ones attacking the press so STFU!China’s centralized national authority recently pulled a popular TV program about the day’s of China’s imperial past. It wasn’t socialist enough and promoted a grand and luxurious lifestyle. They will tell their people how to think. The government will control history and determine who the heroes and villains are. This is what the Democratic Party (aka Socialist Party) would like in the United States. Total control of our lives by a liberal central government in Washington D.C. Democrats don’t believe in liberty or democracy. (We know this from their efforts to overturn 2016 election)
Why China turned against a blockbuster drama
Bush92
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Exactly.The media has effectively already done that. Any show that isn't PC gets yanked from the air. That's what happened to Roseanne and "Last Man Standing."China’s centralized national authority recently pulled a popular TV program about the day’s of China’s imperial past. It wasn’t socialist enough and promoted a grand and luxurious lifestyle. They will tell their people how to think. The government will control history and determine who the heroes and villains are. This is what the Democratic Party (aka Socialist Party) would like in the United States. Total control of our lives by a liberal central government in Washington D.C. Democrats don’t believe in liberty or democracy. (We know this from their efforts to overturn 2016 election)
Why China turned against a blockbuster drama
Bush92
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Boycotting Target because of gender neutral restrooms that allow for molesters to have a heyday and it breaks down the basic differences of gender that any civilized society is founded upon.Apu:/—-/ Didn’t Libs demand Amos & Andy be taken off the air? Didn’t libs demand the Simpsons take the Deli owner character off the air because he was politically incorrect? This makes your charge of a Strawman argument null and void.
Links please
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‘Simpsons’ creator reveals why Apu is tainted now
Simpsons Alludes to Apu Stereotype Controversy, Documentarian Fires Back
as said in the episode:
“It’s hard to say…,” Lisa answered. “Something that started out decades ago and was applauded and inoffensive is now politically incorrect.” Turning to a framed photo of Kwik-E-Mart proprietor Apu on her nightstand, Lisa added: “What can you do?”
pretty sure a conservative didn't care about apu.
censoring our news:
AWFUL! Barack Obama Announces Plan to CENSOR Fox News (MUST READ) - The Political Insider
And so, if we’re going to change how Rep. John Boehner (R-OH) and Sen. Mitch McConnell think, we’re going to have to change how our body politic thinks, which means we’re going to have to change how the media reports on these issues, and how people’s impressions of what it’s like to struggle in this economy looks like. And how budgets connect to that. And that’s a hard process because that requires a much broader conversation than typically we have on the nightly news.
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sure sounds like he wants to dictate what goes on the news to me. now trump is around and he feuds with them daily and has revoked media passes from acosta (dunno if anyone else) and maybe somewhere in all his ramblings he's said the same about dictating how we provide the news. it's just as wrong here.
plenty of links out there of liberals stopping free speech (anti-fa, colleges not allowing conservative speakers, news sources being labeled good or bad, BY the left (if you see anyone on the right trying to validate news with a stamp of approval shoot me the link, i can't find one).
So, with the exception of the current and former presidents trying to go after the news sources that dare say bad things about them, we have private citizens trying to change things they do not agree with. It does not seem anyone is trying to get the government involved, so it is not socialism.
Let me ask, are your examples above fundamentally different than Conservatives boycotting Target for not saying Merry Christmas or Starbucks because their Christmas cups are not Christmasy enough?
Or Christians boycotting Disney because Disney has a day set aside for gay pride?
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Bush92
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Looking in the mirror again I see.China’s centralized national authority recently pulled a popular TV program about the day’s of China’s imperial past. It wasn’t socialist enough and promoted a grand and luxurious lifestyle. They will tell their people how to think. The government will control history and determine who the heroes and villains are. This is what the Democratic Party (aka Socialist Party) would like in the United States. Total control of our lives by a liberal central government in Washington D.C. Democrats don’t believe in liberty or democracy. (We know this from their efforts to overturn 2016 election)
Why China turned against a blockbuster drama
Democratic Party wants to be the “Great Oz” out of Washington D.C. Outsider Trump has been fighting them everyday.
Well you missed the target but hit the tree. The Wizard of Oz comparison is apt, but Donald J. Trump is the man behind the curtain, the not so great and not so powerful Oz, the sideshow conman.
Trump is not an outsider. He's always been one of the guys who pulled the levers, using his money to bribe and bully. Now he's running the same scam using the power of the Presidency. Problem is there are checks and balances on the Presidency.
Republicans promised that if Trump was elected, they would save the American people from the worst of his excesses. That didn't happen. Republicans let him do anything he wanted, and covered up his crimes wherever they could. Those days are over. The American people are going to see the real Trump. The ignorant asshole who thought it was a good idea to separate families and steal their children.
The American people elected Pelosi and the Democrats to up hold the Constitutiono and provide oversight and that is what is going to happen.
Bush92
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What’s wrong with gathering intelligence on our enemies? Oh...your an “America Bad” liberal.This coming from someone with a CIA Poppy avatar.Democratic Party wants to be the “Great Oz” out of Washington D.C. Outsider Trump has been fighting them everyday.
How was that secret military tribunal btw ?
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Your an airhead. It’s about communism and following the yellow brick road will not lead to a utopia like socialist espouse.Democratic Party wants to be the “Great Oz” out of Washington D.C. Outsider Trump has been fighting them everyday.
Well you missed the target but hit the tree. The Wizard of Oz comparison is apt, but Donald J. Trump is the man behind the curtain, the not so great and not so powerful Oz, the sideshow conman.
Trump is not an outsider. He's always been one of the guys who pulled the levers, using his money to bribe and bully. Now he's running the same scam using the power of the Presidency. Problem is there are checks and balances on the Presidency.
Republicans promised that if Trump was elected, they would save the American people from the worst of his excesses. That didn't happen. Republicans let him do anything he wanted, and covered up his crimes wherever they could. Those days are over. The American people are going to see the real Trump. The ignorant asshole who thought it was a good idea to separate families and steal their children.
The American people
Bush92
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The liberal biased fake news propaganda tool of the DNC?Your party is the only ones attacking the press so STFU!China’s centralized national authority recently pulled a popular TV program about the day’s of China’s imperial past. It wasn’t socialist enough and promoted a grand and luxurious lifestyle. They will tell their people how to think. The government will control history and determine who the heroes and villains are. This is what the Democratic Party (aka Socialist Party) would like in the United States. Total control of our lives by a liberal central government in Washington D.C. Democrats don’t believe in liberty or democracy. (We know this from their efforts to overturn 2016 election)
Why China turned against a blockbuster drama
Bush92
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So you support the millions murdered by China’s socialists regime.Your party is the only ones attacking the press so STFU!China’s centralized national authority recently pulled a popular TV program about the day’s of China’s imperial past. It wasn’t socialist enough and promoted a grand and luxurious lifestyle. They will tell their people how to think. The government will control history and determine who the heroes and villains are. This is what the Democratic Party (aka Socialist Party) would like in the United States. Total control of our lives by a liberal central government in Washington D.C. Democrats don’t believe in liberty or democracy. (We know this from their efforts to overturn 2016 election)
Why China turned against a blockbuster drama
the other mike
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Constitutionalist Independent would be an appropriate label for me or Green Party. And the NSA is collecting data on everyone, in case you didn't know.What’s wrong with gathering intelligence on our enemies? Oh...your an “America Bad” liberal.
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Liberals.but no criticism of the government
Awwww. come on Trumpster's "Who's the Enemy of the People"
Come on, you know this one........
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Ah man shucks, you had a 50 50 shot too. Better luck next time.......
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