China halts export of rare earthes

[Mack The Finger]

why would they lose the advantage.Our Navy is a shell of its former self

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Man...you are a hack !

Were you ever in the service ? Can you guess how many NATO Subs are in between China and Taiwan ?

Do you realize...China shares a border with India (our allied) who almost as many foot soldiers.

Do you realize South Korea and Japan are like 5 minutes from them ?

Do you realize if a war broke out China would need IMHO 35% of thier arm forces to keep the population in check ?

BTW: Do you think when they release the Pee Tape CNN will cover it-24-7 again ???

The United States has more high-quality, influential vessels than the Chinese – ships such as guided missile cruisers, destroyers, and aircraft carriers. “Destroyers in particular serve as the backbone of any modern fleet,” CSIS wrote, on account of their ability to conduct a variety of missions with speed and range. Right now, the United States possesses 73 destroyers, whereas the Chinese have 42. The American destroyer gap is important, allowing the U.S. “to exert sea control and project power to a greater extent than” the Chinese.

China vs. U.S. Navy: Which Fighting Force on the Water Is Stronger?

Summary and Key Points: China now boasts the world’s largest navy with 234 operational warships, surpassing the United States. While China has a numerical advantage, the U.S. still holds a qualitative edge, particularly with its fleet of destroyers, guided missile cruisers, and aircraft...

nationalinterest.org

• The U.S. Navy has over 3.6 million (U.S.) tons of ships in its fleet, nearly twice the size of China’s combined fleets of just over 2 million tons.
  [*]While China boasts the largest number of ships, 1,015 between both the PLA Navy and the Chinese Coast Guard, against the U.S. Navy’s 364, they are generally smaller and less advanced than their U.S. counterparts.
  [*]The Chinese Coast Guard has received many of the PLA Navy’s older ships, however the vast majority of their ships are patrol and coastal combatants that average 711 tons apiece and aren’t able to sail far from China’s coast.
  [*]Even as the U.S. Navy edges out the PLA Navy across almost every ship type, China does hold a 16:1 edge in tonnage of landing ships and craft, reflecting the Asian superpower’s stated policy goal of reunifying Taiwan with the mainland.

Who Rules the Waves? U.S. and Chinese Fleets, by Tonnage

There are reports that China's Navy already has more ships than the United States, but how do these superpower rivals stack up, ton for ton?

www.visualcapitalist.com

 

[BluesLegend]

We Just Moved One Step Closer to a Miliary Engagement With China​

Why, is China offended that you can't spell?

 

[Flopper]

Myanmar, Australia, and Thailand also has rare earth deposits that could be mined.

The key word is could be. We need the flow of rare earth minerals to continue or there will be many US manufacturing plants that will come to a stop.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

This is PRECISELY why we don't need to be relying on china.

 

[Flopper]

I read recently that 75% of our ships are built by China. WTF? China stopping the shipment of rare earth materials shows just how incredibly vulnerable we are.

Wresting control of manufacturing that is essential for national security should have been done years ago.

Not True

 

[TemplarKormac]

If China attacks Taiwan or America at some point than a hot war was inevitable, all that occurs with the tariffs and other actions is to ensure it occurs before China becomes a more powerful nation with a more powerful military rather than after.

If China attacks Taiwan, they will get put in the ground economically. They will sow their own demise.

 

[toobfreak]

According to the U.S. Trade Representative, China has not contacted either his office or President Trump since April 2nd. In an effort to pressure China back to the bargaining table, Trump repeatedly raised tariffs—at one point up to 145%—yet received no response.

Trump has the right idea, it just comes about 20-30 years too late. This should have been done a long time ago.

China did respond—but not in the way Trump had hoped. It announced the suspension of all rare earth and specialized magnet exports. Exporters must now apply for a permit, a process that can take anywhere from 60 days to several months. This delay gives the Chinese government time to assess whether these shipments might ultimately end up in the United States.

Here’s why this move is critical: China produces 90% of the world’s rare earth elements and controls about 70% of the global supply. These minerals are essential for advanced manufacturing, including the production of automobiles, aircraft, communications equipment, and various technologies used by defense contractors. In effect, China has a strategic chokehold—and now the ball is in Trump’s court.

China’s next move may not be economic but military. Xi Jinping has maintained control of the military with assertive declarations that the reunification of Taiwan with mainland China is inevitable. This aligns with a plan introduced in 2019 to integrate Taiwan under a framework similar to that of Hong Kong. However, Xi is quickly running out of options.

War with China is inevitable given the past 30 years of allowing them control of key sectors and technologies. China is going to play hardball. They do not care how much their people suffer while we do. Americans are weak--- they are already complaining if their iPhone goes up by $1.19 in price. The Chinese are willing to absorb huge pain. I'm prepared to go all out with China, and this means putting the screws to them, buying what we need from other sources and crushing chinese interests wherever they happen.

If we cannot stop China now and finally put them in their place then they have already beaten us by our waiting so long and doing so little. Time to rock and roll.

 

[MisterBeale]

China launches military drills around Taiwan, calls island's president a 'parasite'

BEIJING: China staged military drills off Taiwan's north, south and east coasts on Tuesday (Apr 1) as a "stern warning" against separatism and called Taiwanese President Lai Ching-te a "parasite", as Taiwan sent warships to respond to China's navy approaching its shores. The exercises, which...

www.channelnewsasia.com

 

[westwall]

According to the U.S. Trade Representative, China has not contacted either his office or President Trump since April 2nd. In an effort to pressure China back to the bargaining table, Trump repeatedly raised tariffs—at one point up to 145%—yet received no response. The Chinese Ministry of Commerce later suggested that Trump should reconsider these tariff hikes. In turn, Trump issued a 90-day extension, but again, China remained silent. Eventually, Trump hinted that the extension might be cut short.

China did respond—but not in the way Trump had hoped. It announced the suspension of all rare earth and specialized magnet exports. Exporters must now apply for a permit, a process that can take anywhere from 60 days to several months. This delay gives the Chinese government time to assess whether these shipments might ultimately end up in the United States.

Here’s why this move is critical: China produces 90% of the world’s rare earth elements and controls about 70% of the global supply. These minerals are essential for advanced manufacturing, including the production of automobiles, aircraft, communications equipment, and various technologies used by defense contractors. In effect, China has a strategic chokehold—and now the ball is in Trump’s court.

China’s next move may not be economic but military. Xi Jinping has maintained control of the military with assertive declarations that the reunification of Taiwan with mainland China is inevitable. This aligns with a plan introduced in 2019 to integrate Taiwan under a framework similar to that of Hong Kong. However, Xi is quickly running out of options.

China halts critical rare earth mineral exports as Trump teases new tariffs

US president says he will announce tariff rates on semiconductors next week

www.independent.co.uk

No problem. We have all of the rare Earth's we need. We just need to overturn pelousi's California Desert Conservation Act which locked them away while her dear husband got the contract to import them from China.

That was done way back in the 1980s.

 

[Flopper]

This is PRECISELY why we don't need to be relying on china.

Keep in mind China never forced us to buy from them. This is a problem of our making. The Chinese drive to produce everything better and cheaper was irresistible to American consumers.

We did not get into this overnight. Our trade deficit with China has been growing for 45 years. We are not the only nation with this problem, the EU has huge trade as do most of China's biggest trading partners.

A trade deficit is not inherently bad. It indicates a strong economy that attracts investments. It is also an indicator of the wealth of the population. However there are two problems a county with growing trade deficits needs to address; first dependency and second protection of local industry.

 

[Flopper]

No problem. We have all of the rare Earth's we need. We just need to overturn pelousi's California Desert Conservation Act which locked them away while her dear husband got the contract to import them from China.

That was done way back in the 1980s.

That is a bit of distortion but there is some truth in what you are saying. rare earth elements are not rare, deposits of rare earth elements are very rare. Because rare earth elements are everywhere and evenly distributed, every country in the world, including the United States, has them. However, because they are evenly distributed, they are very difficult to mine as there are no concentrated locations from which to extract them.

So yes, we can dig surface mines with huge open pits that will create huge ecological problems that produce very little rare earth minerals simply because we don't have the large deposits that China has.

 

[Missourian]

According to the U.S. Trade Representative, China has not contacted either his office or President Trump since April 2nd. In an effort to pressure China back to the bargaining table, Trump repeatedly raised tariffs—at one point up to 145%—yet received no response. The Chinese Ministry of Commerce later suggested that Trump should reconsider these tariff hikes. In turn, Trump issued a 90-day extension, but again, China remained silent. Eventually, Trump hinted that the extension might be cut short.

China did respond—but not in the way Trump had hoped. It announced the suspension of all rare earth and specialized magnet exports. Exporters must now apply for a permit, a process that can take anywhere from 60 days to several months. This delay gives the Chinese government time to assess whether these shipments might ultimately end up in the United States.

Here’s why this move is critical: China produces 90% of the world’s rare earth elements and controls about 70% of the global supply. These minerals are essential for advanced manufacturing, including the production of automobiles, aircraft, communications equipment, and various technologies used by defense contractors. In effect, China has a strategic chokehold—and now the ball is in Trump’s court.

China’s next move may not be economic but military. Xi Jinping has maintained control of the military with assertive declarations that the reunification of Taiwan with mainland China is inevitable. This aligns with a plan introduced in 2019 to integrate Taiwan under a framework similar to that of Hong Kong. However, Xi is quickly running out of options.

China halts critical rare earth mineral exports as Trump teases new tariffs

US president says he will announce tariff rates on semiconductors next week

www.independent.co.uk

Whelp...best to get it out of the way now before their ready.

 

[westwall]

That is a bit of distortion but there is some truth in what you are saying. rare earth elements are not rare, deposits of rare earth elements are very rare. Because rare earth elements are everywhere and evenly distributed, every country in the world, including the United States, has them. However, because they are evenly distributed, they are very difficult to mine as there are no concentrated locations from which to extract them.

So yes, we can dig surface mines with huge open pits that will create huge ecological problems that produce very little rare earth minerals simply because we don't have the large deposits that China has.

There is a large deposit south of Death Valley. The area used to be outside of the Monument boundaries. Then, feinsrein and pelousi, and a bunch of other California politicians added land to the Monument, and turned it into a Park. Thereby locking those minerals away.

 

[Flopper]

Sounds like Flopper wants us to say my bad, drop to our knees and beg Xi for forgiveness.

His OP is just more fear mongering...

What many people don't understand about China is that they want to control their corner of the planet, and if they were to foolishly attack the US, their economic base collapses overnight, and along with getting their asses kicked back to the 17th century, they would now have no one to buy their cheap shit....Lose/Lose for China.

I'll address your first paragraph, the last is not worth the time.

The United States needs to develop a comprehensive and sustainable plan to reduce the trade deficit with China. President Trump’s approach to slashing a deficit that has been growing steadily for over 45 years is unlikely to succeed. Even if he were able to pressure China—and a few other major trading partners—into a deal, any resulting agreement would likely be short-lived. Trade negotiations are not about securing one grand bargain; they require continuous, incremental progress through daily engagement and a long-term strategy.


What’s truly needed is a bipartisan, congressionally approved plan aimed at reducing the trade deficit over the next decade. As part of this strategy, the U.S. Trade Representative should be required to deliver an annual report to Congress, outlining measurable progress and adjustments toward clearly defined goals.

 

[westwall]

I'll address your first paragraph, the last is not worth the time.

The US needs to developed a sound plan for reducing the trade deficit with China. Trump's plan to slash the trade deficit that has been growing rather steadily for 45 years is not going to work. Even if Trump were to coerce the Chinse and few other large trading partners into a deal, it would be short live. A trade negotiation is not about the big deal but daily negotiation, year after year working toward toward established goals.

What is needed is a plan approved by congress to reduce the trade defect over the next 10 years. The US Trade Representative should be required to give a report each year to congress on the progress.

Fuck Congress. Most of them are in the pocket of the Chinese. That's obvious to ANYONE with an operable brain.

 

[JohnDB]

 

[MayorQuimby]

Fuck China. They still owe us the Covid.

Covid was man-made, and it was partially funded by the top agencies in your country.

 

[MayorQuimby]

Fuck Congress. Most of them are in the pocket of the Chinese. That's obvious to ANYONE with an operable brain.

Why is it that people can say the Congress is in the pocket of the Chinese, but if I say they are in the pocket of J*ws, I get banned.

 

[Flopper]

So if China is so flush with oil why did they bribe the Biden Crime Family to buy SPR oil...twice?

China is not flush with oil but their agreements with Russia, Saudi Arabia, and Iraq provide the oil they need. They are making progress to move away from oil, but not necessarily green energy. They are up to about 28% of electricity from solar and 14% from hydroelectric but they also replaced a number of old oil fired power plants with coal and gas.

 

[JGalt]

Covid was man-made, and it was partially funded by the top agencies in your country.

It still originated in China.