China escalates the trade war

[BasicHumanUnit]

China has no domestic economy. They are 100% dependent on exports. If they start a war exports stop. Their economy collapses.

Chinas New 5th Gen Fighter is A Game Changer Against America

Look around. How dependent is the USA on Chinese goods? Even the critical ones.
We (The USA) would barely last ONE WEEK if pitted against China. We can't even mass produce PCB boards domestically.
Much less the materials needed. We've systematically handed China ALL our tech secrets (or they've easily stolen them)

So for the last 20 years or more, China has DOMINATED global industry....paid little or nothing in labor for all those goods...and now they're "Broke" ?

Think about it. They are artists and masters of not revealing their hand.
Also, if China refuses to sell America the supplies it needs to wage war I guess we can still throw rocks as it's jets fly over?

It's sad but funny how arrogant Americans are (and fooled into complacency)
You people will never wake up. You'll go on in your fantasies about how great America is and how invulnerable we are.....
That is......until China punches you in the mouth (As Mike Tyson put it)

WE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE need to wake up and put PERSONAL efforts in making real changes and stop denying reality.
It will not be an easy or comfortable process by any means, so if you're comfortable.....you ain't doing SQUAT.

And specifically for you Hafar.....tell us what happened to the US economy because of WWII?
A War would kick Chinas economy into high gear like the world has never seen. They are the ONLY ones who would wildly prosper.

 

[Edgetho]

Plus Diane Feinstein and Nancy Pelosi locked away a huge amount of US rare Earth's back in the 1980's so that Feinsteins husband could control the chinese imports to the US.

Our politicians are corrupt as hell and sold out to China long ago.

Trump is taking that power back.

95% of them are dimocrap scum. We have our crooks, too. But Republican crooks are about the same percentage as they are in the general public. Whatever that is -- 2 or 3 %??

the dimocrap scum party, the filthiest, most disgusting, most despicable group of scum the Earth has ever known is 99% crooked. Especially the voters. They're the worst of the whole lot. The entire party is based on being thieves, grifters and scum. They offer -- Nothing. They only take. And what they can't take, they steal

 

[g5000]

China is 100% dependent on exports. We own them

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Donald Trump has brought a game of checkers to a Go tournament.

Dependent on exports, you say? That's true, but Trump is forcing China to make the US irrelevant. That's what Trump does, he makes America less and less significant to the rest of the world. It's as if he set out to do this on purpose.

China is way ahead of you and Trump. They are shifting their trade away from the US, thanks to the orange idiot.

Surging trade between China and the Global South​

China’s trade with the Global South has expanded significantly faster than with the rest of the world, particularly after the US raised tariffs on the country in 2018 (Figure 2).

China’s exports of goods to these regions have doubled since 2015, compared with growth of 28% to the US and 58% to Western Europe. This acceleration has been most pronounced in the last five years, during which the country’s exports to the Global South rose 65%, three times the growth rate (21%) of the previous five-year period (Figure 3).

As a result, China now sells over 50% more to the Global South ($1.6 trillion) than to the US and Western Europe combined ($1 trillion). Notably, the country’s exports to just three regions — South and Southeast Asia ($759 billion), Latin America ($264 billion), and the Middle East ($219 billion) — already exceed the total to the US and Western Europe.

China Inc. heads to Global South in the age of tariffs​

Additionally, as has been recently reported, Trump bailed out Argentina and made soy imports from there cheaper for China. As a result, China no longer imports soy from American farmers. Well done, Trumpie! You really fucked America.

This is what happens when you elect a stupid, petty, vindictive game show host.

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[Edgetho]

Look around. How dependent is the USA on Chinese goods? Even the critical ones.
We (The USA) would barely last ONE WEEK if pitted against China. We can't even mass produce PCB boards domestically.
Much less the materials needed. We've systematically handed China ALL our tech secrets (or they've easily stolen them)

So for the last 20 years or more, China has DOMINATED global industry....paid little or nothing in labor for all those goods...and now they're "Broke" ?

Think about it. They are artists and masters of not revealing their hand.
Also, if China refuses to sell America the supplies it needs to wage war I guess we can still throw rocks as it's jets fly over?

It's sad but funny how arrogant Americans are (and fooled into complacency)
You people will never wake up. You'll go on in your fantasies about how great America is and how invulnerable we are.....
That is......until China punches you in the mouth (As Mike Tyson put it)

There is not an accurate phrase in that entire post.

China is a Paper Tiger.

Economically, they are totes dependent on the West. Who else they gonna sell their shit to? The Russians? The Japanese??

And you think WE'RE protectionist? Wait until the Euro-Trash finds out what the Chinese imports are doing to their workforce.

Militarily? The Chinese would be lucky to survive a War in Asia alone, much less expanding it to our Hemisphere. S Korea is an extremely powerful Military and the Chinese are instinctively terrified of the Japanese. Then there's Taiwan who doesn't like them at all. Neither do the Vietnamese. And they'd be looking over their shoulder the whole time because Russia would try to buttfuck them while their backs were turned.

China is -- Next to Nothing. They can't survive without us. Xi is bending to the Nationalists in his midst. He knows better than to mess with us but the old-time Nationalist/communists think entirely too highly of themselves.

China will cave. They have no choice.

 

[Hafar1014]

Donald Trump has brought a game of checkers to a Go tournament.

Dependent on exports, you say? That's true, but Trump is forcing China to make the US irrelevant. That's what Trump does, he makes America less and less significant to the rest of the world. It's as if he set out to do this on purpose.

China is way ahead of you and Trump. They are shifting their trade away from the US, thanks to the orange idiot.

Surging trade between China and the Global South​

China’s trade with the Global South has expanded significantly faster than with the rest of the world, particularly after the US raised tariffs on the country in 2018 (Figure 2).

China’s exports of goods to these regions have doubled since 2015, compared with growth of 28% to the US and 58% to Western Europe. This acceleration has been most pronounced in the last five years, during which the country’s exports to the Global South rose 65%, three times the growth rate (21%) of the previous five-year period (Figure 3).

As a result, China now sells over 50% more to the Global South ($1.6 trillion) than to the US and Western Europe combined ($1 trillion). Notably, the country’s exports to just three regions — South and Southeast Asia ($759 billion), Latin America ($264 billion), and the Middle East ($219 billion) — already exceed the total to the US and Western Europe.

China Inc. heads to Global South in the age of tariffs​

Additionally, as has been recently reported, Trump bailed out Argentina and made soy imports from there cheaper for China. As a result, China no longer imports soy from American farmers. Well done, Trumpie! You really fucked America.[

This is what happens when you elect a stupid, petty, vindictive game show host.

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America is the largest market in the world to export to. Without us Chinas economy will collapse

 

[g5000]

America is the largest market in the world to export to. Without us Chinas economy will collapse

You are blind, ignorant fool who is not paying the slightest bit of attention to China.

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[Hafar1014]

You are blind, ignorant fool who is not paying the slightest bit of attention to China.

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Which doesnt address my point which is valid. If China cant export to America their economy collapses. It is already in decline like al communist economies the eventually fall apart.

 

[westwall]

Westwall.....another who believes America is mightier than God himself.

SMH

No, but I know you are an agent of someone, trying desperately to incite violence here in the USA.

So, I am thinking you are a chinese stooge like most of the propagandists here.

 

[g5000]

Which doesnt address my point which is valid. If China cant export to America their economy collapses.

Read post 43 and try again.

China is building new trade routes and trading partners and is going to leave the US behind.

See: Belt and Road Initiative.

Belt and Road Initiative - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Also, Trump has destroyed the USAID for China. Elon Musk and others used China's talking points to convince Trump to kill it.

Elon is loyal to China, not the US. His biggest factories are there, and his $billions of loans came from CCP-controlled banks.

With the murder of the USAID, China is filling the vacuum left behind by the US.

Trump and the MAGA horde know absolutely nothing about how soft power works.

But China does.


Like I said. Trump brought a game of checkers to a Go tournament.

You all are worried about how dependent we are on China? Well, you better wake up because we are becoming irrelevant to China and then we will be REALLY fucked.

Start paying attention, grasshopper.

 

[westwall]

Read post 43 and try again.

China is building new trade routes and trading partners and is going to leave the US behind.

See: Belt and Road Initiative.

Also, Trump has destroyed the USAID for China. Elon Musk and others used China's talking points to convince Trump to kill it.

Now China is filling the vacuum left behind by the US.

Trump and the MAGA horde know absolutely nothing about how soft power works.

But China does.


Like I said. Trump brought a game of checkers to a Go tournament.

You all are worried about how dependent we are on China? Well, you better wake up because we are becoming irrelevant to China and then we will be REALLY fucked.

Start paying attention, grasshopper.

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And those new markets equal less than 1/1000 of the US market.

Scale matters, moron.

 

[whitehall]

We don't produce the goods we need because democrats have been busy building useless windmills and solar plants to conform with the global warming extortion game.

 

[Hafar1014]

Read post 43 and try again.

China is building new trade routes and trading partners and is going to leave the US behind.

See: Belt and Road Initiative.

Belt and Road Initiative - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Also, Trump has destroyed the USAID for China. Elon Musk and others used China's talking points to convince Trump to kill it.

Elon is loyal to China, not the US. His biggest factories are there, and his $billions of loans came from CCP-controlled banks.

With the murder of the USAID, China is filling the vacuum left behind by the US.

Trump and the MAGA horde know absolutely nothing about how soft power works.

But China does.


Like I said. Trump brought a game of checkers to a Go tournament.

You all are worried about how dependent we are on China? Well, you better wake up because we are becoming irrelevant to China and then we will be REALLY fucked.

Start paying attention, grasshopper.

Assertions with no real support. Chinas economy is in decline like all communists they eventually destroy their economy with government control

 

[citygator]

95% of them are dimocrap scum. We have our crooks, too. But Republican crooks are about the same percentage as they are in the general public. Whatever that is -- 2 or 3 %??

the dimocrap scum party, the filthiest, most disgusting, most despicable group of scum the Earth has ever known is 99% crooked. Especially the voters. They're the worst of the whole lot. The entire party is based on being thieves, grifters and scum. They offer -- Nothing. They only take. And what they can't take, they steal

All your words say is....

 

[g5000]

It is already in decline like al communist economies the eventually fall apart.

China's economy is in decline not because of the US, but because they made the same mistake we made, especially in the housing market and the printing of money.

Their "economic decline" is relative. From the Chinese perspective, their GDP growth is declining. But you know what their GDP growth was last year?

5 percent.

We can only wish for growth like that. We had 2.8% last year.

China's GDP growth in 2021 was 8.6%. So yeah, "declining" but still kicking our ass.
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[Dorian Mode]

Chinas New 5th Gen Fighter is A Game Changer Against America

Look around. How dependent is the USA on Chinese goods? Even the critical ones.
We (The USA) would barely last ONE WEEK if pitted against China. We can't even mass produce PCB boards domestically.
Much less the materials needed. We've systematically handed China ALL our tech secrets (or they've easily stolen them)

So for the last 20 years or more, China has DOMINATED global industry....paid little or nothing in labor for all those goods...and now they're "Broke" ?

Think about it. They are artists and masters of not revealing their hand.
Also, if China refuses to sell America the supplies it needs to wage war I guess we can still throw rocks as it's jets fly over?

It's sad but funny how arrogant Americans are (and fooled into complacency)
You people will never wake up. You'll go on in your fantasies about how great America is and how invulnerable we are.....
That is......until China punches you in the mouth (As Mike Tyson put it)

WE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE need to wake up and put PERSONAL efforts in making real changes and stop denying reality.
It will not be an easy or comfortable process by any means, so if you're comfortable.....you ain't doing SQUAT.

And specifically for you Hafar.....tell us what happened to the US economy because of WWII?
A War would kick Chinas economy into high gear like the world has never seen. They are the ONLY ones who would wildly prosper.

I understand what you are saying. One of the biggest problems in America is people refuse to accept reality when the propaganda seems so much better.

 

[Edgetho]

Which doesnt address my point which is valid. If China cant export to America their economy collapses. It is already in decline like al communist economies the eventually fall apart.

Their politics are communist but their economy is a Technocracy. More like National Socialism or Fascism...... A State-Directed Capitalism.

Make no mistake, China is a Capitalist Country. It's just that it is directed by The State. IOW, textbook Fascism

 

[Hafar1014]

Their politics are communist but their economy is a Technocracy. More like National Socialism or Fascism...... A State-Directed Capitalism.

Make no mistake, China is a Capitalist Country. It's just that it is directed by The State. IOW, textbook Fascism

Thats communism. What is important is that the differences between socialism fascism and communism are a distinction without a difference.

 

[g5000]

Assertions with no real support. Chinas economy is in decline like all communists they eventually destroy their economy with government control

Keep those blinders on, kid.

 

[Edgetho]

Thats communism. What is important is that the differences between socialism fascism and communism are a distinction without a difference.

The only thing they have in common is that they're all Totalitarian in nature.

But there is a world of difference between them. communism is the absence of all government. A liberturdian's dream.

socialism is the ownership of the Means of Production by the Proletariat. Fascism is the complete Supremacy of the State........ "All within the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State".

China is a Technocracy. A somewhat related form of Fascism. A First Cousin, if you will. Many of its Leaders have extensive backgrounds in Engineering and Science.

But you are right in that a Totalitarian form of government is a totalitarian form of government and the differences between them are inconsequential to the rest of us. They all suck. And the suckiest, suck-joint piece of garbage crap filth of them all is the American dimocrap piece of shit party.

Especially its voters. They're the worst of all

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Sounds like China just gave a big **** you to the rest of the world.

Fair Trade Benefits Both Countries

It takes two to turn "**** You!" into making love. China is a main target of the transnational Globalists, who are benefiting from our refusal to lay with BRICs.