China drops 'peaceful reunification' reference to Taiwan

[Unkotare]

Taiwan has consistently voted for the fantasy that they are the Republic of China.

I don't think the rest of Canada would take it that well if Quebec became its own country.

The US has fought a civil war to keep states in that no longer were that into it.

But China is supposed to bend over and take it when a province declares independence?

You're sure bending over and begging. You could not be more transparent, bigot.

 

[Mac-7]

Their "Aircraft carrier" is a joke. It's essentially a destroyer with a flight deck.

The problem is no one in Asia wants Japan to rearm. They all have fresh memories of Japan rampaging across Asia and killing millions of people.

Its about the same size as an escort carrier in WWII

Its special because Japan is rearming to meet the chinese threat

Who knows how far this will go but its not good news for the chicoms

 

[Mac-7]

The problem is no one in Asia wants Japan to rearm. They all have fresh memories of Japan rampaging across Asia and killing millions of people.

You are watching too many chinese war movies where wolf warriors kick ass on America and Japan

The smaller nations being bullied by china are happy for all the help they can get

 

[Unkotare]

Um, yeah. Okay.

Japan- Useless
...

7th strongest military in the world.

 

[Unkotare]

Again, do you really think Americans want to send their young men to die for some crappy islands in the South China Sea, you are delusional.

What people like you on both sides are likely to do is make WWIII inevitable by provoking China when we don't need to.

Yeah, yeah, we know she's reading over your shoulder.

 

[JoeB131]

Its about the same size as an escort carrier in WWII

Its special because Japan is rearming to meet the chinese threat

Who knows how far this will go but its not good news for the chicoms

If the Chinese were as scary as you say.

Of course, Trade with China is 20% of Japan's total trade. They could just cut off the spigot and tank Japan's economy.

You are watching too many chinese war movies where wolf warriors kick ass on America and Japan

The smaller nations being bullied by china are happy for all the help they can get

Naw, man, I just have a lot of Asian contacts. The Chinese don't like Japan. The Koreans don't like Japan. The Filipinos aren't terribly fond of them.

 

[Mac-7]

They could just cut off the spigot and tank Japan's economy.

Or Japan and the Western powers could tank china’s economy

The difference is if Japanese dont like their government they can vote them out of office

If the chinese object to the government the CCP will shoot them down like dogs

 

[hadit]

Also Joe

You were not supposed to notice that.

 

[Mac-7]

If the Chinese were as scary as you say.

Of course, Trade with China is 20% of Japan's total trade. They could just cut off the spigot and tank Japan's economy.



Naw, man, I just have a lot of Asian contacts. The Chinese don't like Japan. The Koreans don't like Japan. The Filipinos aren't terribly fond of them.

The CCP fans hate toward Japan for what happened in WWII the same way that black race mongers depend on their white boogyman

If Japan didnt exist the chicoms would have invent something just like it

 

[ThirdTerm]

Of course, Trade with China is 20% of Japan's total trade. They could just cut off the spigot and tank Japan's economy.

America also can turn off the spigot to kill the Chinese economy, if China invades Taiwan. China cannot grow its economy without relying on the West. Taking Taiwan by force cannot offset economic losses of losing the trade with the West entirely. Therefore, it's not worth risking a war from the Chinese perspective. I guess a pro-China government will emerge in Taiwan in a distant future. Taiwan's conservatives are not against Beijing.

For China, the gains from trade with the United States and the rest of the world have been tremendous. Since 2001, China’s economy has grown more than five-fold, adjusted for inflation, and it is now the world’s second largest, behind only the United States. (By some measures, it is the largest.) Hundreds of millions of people have escaped extreme poverty as a result of this growth.

The U.S.-China Trade Relationship | Council on Foreign Relations

President Donald Trump’s trade war with China that began in his first administration has created ripple effects throughout the global economy. But experts say complete decoupling of the world’s two biggest economies is likely impossible.

www.cfr.org

 

[Mac-7]

JoeB131



Apple alone has moved over 260,000 jobs to Vietnam and India since 2020

 

[Unkotare]

If the Chinese were as scary as you say.

Of course, Trade with China is 20% of Japan's total trade. They could just cut off the spigot and tank Japan's economy.



Naw, man, I just have a lot of Asian contacts. The Chinese don't like Japan. The Koreans don't like Japan. The Filipinos aren't terribly fond of them.

You are completely full of shit.

 

[JoeB131]

Or Japan and the Western powers could tank china’s economy

The difference is if Japanese dont like their government they can vote them out of office

If the chinese object to the government the CCP will shoot them down like dogs

Americans whine when they have to pay $4.00 in gas.

You think they are really going to tolerate empty shelves at Walmart?

Apple alone has moved over 260,000 jobs to Vietnam and India since 2020

Only because labor is cheaper, not because they are horrified by China.

 

[Mac-7]

Americans whine when they have to pay $4.00 in gas.

You think they are really going to tolerate empty shelves at Walmart?




Only because labor is cheaper, not because they are horrified by China.

There wont be empty shelves at Walmart as we move the supply chain out of communist china

Higher prices yes, but not for long

 

[Mac-7]

Only because labor is cheaper, not because they are horrified by China.

Both

China is our enemy and Western countries cannot depend on the chicoms

 

[JoeB131]

America also can turn off the spigot to kill the Chinese economy, if China invades Taiwan. China cannot grow its economy without relying on the West. Taking Taiwan by force cannot offset economic losses of losing the trade with the West entirely. Therefore, it's not worth risking a war from the Chinese perspective. I guess a pro-China government will emerge in Taiwan in a distant future. Taiwan's conservatives are not against Beijing.

It is amusing that they Guomatang, the political heirs to Chiang Kai-Shek, are more pro-Beijing than the other political parties. They still cling to the notion of someday ruling all of China someday.

 

[JoeB131]

There wont be empty shelves at Walmart as we move the supply chain out of communist china

Higher prices yes, but not for long

Nope. Vietnam simply doesn't have the industrial capacity to supplant China.

Both

China is our enemy and Western countries cannot depend on the chicoms

Not my enemy. You guys need to stop looking for enemies that aren't there.

The only enemy of America is Trump.

 

[Mac-7]

Nope. Vietnam simply doesn't have the industrial capacity to supplant China.

You overlook India, Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines, Thailand, Laos, and Cambodia

 

[JoeB131]

You overlook India, Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines, Thailand, Laos, and Cambodia

I've done business in many of them. Still not as reliable a partner as China.

Malaysia is completely in China's pocket.
So is Thailand, which relies on Chinese support through the Belt and Road initiative.
Cambodia has warm relations with China.

The Philippines are still dirt poor. They just don't have the infrastructure. Too bad, they are great people.

 

[Unkotare]

I've done business in many of them. Still not as reliable a partner as China.

You're full of shit.