JakeStarkey
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The Chinese armed forces are no threat to us here.
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Chinese have an unlimited surplus of young fighting age men with no wives to be able to send anywhere in the world
Not quite. Yes they have a potentially huge army, but how are they going to send them anywhere? By sea? They don't have the tonnage. One of the reasons they haven't gone after Taiwan is they don't have the Naval superiority to pull it off.
That's true. We all know the meatheads of the world would shoot their own grandmother if ordered to.I remember back in the discussions on Gulf War I when Iraq was billed as having a huge army, a large part of which were veterans of the 10 year war with Iran.
They were taken to pieces and nearly eliminated in the course of 6 weeks.
Gulf War II went even faster.
The Chinese don't have an effective air arm. The navy is even less of an issue.
The only reason China has that big of an army is because they are afraid of their population.
“By 2020, the number of Chinese males of marriageable age may exceed the number of Chinese females of marriageable age by 30 to 40 million,” says the 2011 report from the Congressional-Executive Commission on China, a group headed by Rep. Christopher Smith (R-N.J.). China’s “one-child” policy, implemented in 1979, is directly to blame: “In response to government-imposed birth limits and in keeping with a traditional cultural bias for sons, some Chinese parents choose to engage in sex-selective abortion, especially rural couples whose first child is a girl,” the report says.
China implemented a ban on sex-selective abortions in 2003, but according to Rep. Smith, the practice remains widespread: “The proof of it is the missing girls,” Smith told a Capitol Hill news conference on Wednesday. The report points to United Nations population statistics showing that in 2010, China’s male-to-female sex-ratio at birth was the highest in the world, at 120 boys for every 100 girls. In August 2011, Chinese state media quoted a Chinese health official as saying that the sex imbalance is increasing.
The report says the consequences of China’s one-child policy are vast and far-reaching. The scarcity of women will increase their “value” as well as their vulnerability, boosting demand for prostitution, for example, as well as an upsurge in the kidnapping and the trafficking of women and girls. Rep. Smith echoed this concern: “There’s been a huge spike in trafficking—in large measure, because of the dearth of girls. We are going to see an ever increasing trafficking problem, directly related to a government policy of systematically exterminating the girl-child population since 1979.”
The report also links China’s “surplus males” to forced marriages and commercial exploitation. The population imbalance also has security implications: “Some social and political scientists argue that large numbers of ‘surplus males’ could create social conditions that the Chinese government may choose to address by expanding military enlistments.” Beyond the skewed male-female ratio, China’s one child policy – with its forced abortions and sterilizations -- is taking an emotional toll on women. A congressional statement accompanying the report noted that approximately 500 women committed suicide each day in China in 2009. “The Nuremberg Nazi war crimes tribunal properly construed forced abortion as a crime against humanity—nothing in human history compares to the magnitude of China’s 31 year assault on women and children,” the statement said.
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All it means is a very short war with an assured Chinese victory. Not that many people in the US would care one way or other other.
We DO have Rules of Engagement that lets our own troops die rather than send support. We ARE developing a friendlier, gentler, more nurturing gay friendly military. We've allowed ourselves to be so beaten up over using nuclear weapons the first time, this nation would never use them again. The country is too divided.
It is not just that the United States can't win a war against the Chinese. We can't win a war against ANYONE. We can't win a war against goatherders after ten years of fighting.
Much of the country would not support a war against China. Much of the country is beholden to China as it is. China has already bought that loyalty. All this regime has to do is negotiate favorable terms of surrender.
i believe that u.s. is our true ally,our defender and our mother. hail ye, oh america, the land of the brave and the land which was choosen by god to become a defender and crusher of any nation who is showing thier power to the smaller and poorer country such as philippinesÂ… MY BELOVED COUNTRY.. HELP US AMERICA!!!! I AM RAYLIEN GARGANERA, FILIPINO!!! WILLING TO DIE FOR AMERICA AND PHILIPPINES!!!! FUCK YOU CHINESE COWARD CHICKEN SHITT!!!!
Why are we going to war with China now?
Of course we aren't going to to to war with China. We couldn't possibly win such a conflict. Or any conflict.
Their military would march across a battlefield, ours would merely "flounce".
Of course we aren't going to to to war with China. We couldn't possibly win such a conflict. Or any conflict.
Their military would march across a battlefield, ours would merely "flounce".
Saddam had a big Army. I can't say I'm all that impressed by China's.
Saddam had a big Army. I can't say I'm all that impressed by China's.
China is self-sufficient in all key areas needed for warfare. From steel production to building sophisticated weapons.
Saddam wasn't even 1/100th what China is.
BEIJING -- A Chinese air force jet crashed at an air show on Friday, leaving one of the pilots missing and presumed dead.
Footage aired by China Central Television showed the jet sputtering and then nose-diving into a field outside the northern city of Xi'an as one of the pilots ejected from the cockpit and landed beneath an open parachute.
Only one parachute was seen opening, and the plane, a two-seater JH-7 "Flying Leopard" fighter-bomber, burst into flames upon crashing. The other pilot's seat appeared not to have ejected.
The pilot who ejected suffered only minor injuries, but his comrade appeared to have been trapped in the doomed plane, the official Xinhua News Agency said, citing eyewitnesses and air show organizer, He Liang.
The plane crashed more than 1 mile from the nearest onlookers and there were no deaths or injuries on the ground.
The crash is being investigated and it wasn't clear if mechanical problems or pilot error was to blame. The plane is powered by two highly reliable license-built Spey Mk202 engines and it was considered unlikely that both would have stalled at the same time.
The Chinese-made JH-7 entered service in 2004 and is a mainstay of the country's air force and naval aviation, with more than 100 built.
At least one of the planes crashed previously — during a China-Russian joint exercise in 2009, killing both pilots.
China rarely released information about military accidents, but the public nature of the crash and the rapid spread of images of it happening on the Internet made it impossible to keep secret.
2011-10-11 (China Military News cited from strategypage.com) -- Russian sales of AL-31 jet engines to China have surpassed a thousand, with the addition of several new orders this year. This is because China wants to expand its fleet of modern jet fighters (J-10 and J-11), and keep pilots in the air often enough to develop and maintain combat skills. That wears out engines fasr. Another reason for the continued orders is persistent Chinese difficulties in developing jet engine manufacturing capabilities. China has been especially keen on freeing itself from dependence on Russian high-performance jet engines for its top-line jet fighters. That has not been happening.
Because the R & D projects in China-made engine has some defects, the engine can not be widely used in military aircraft. As we all know, the Chinese improved strategic bombers H -6 equiped with the Russian-made D-30KP engine, JF-17 fighter with the RD-93 engine, J -10 with the AL-31FN engine, J-11 with AL -31F engines.
According to the Russian Military industry News site on December 29 News reported that ChinaÂ’s aviation enthusiasts, the 5th generation fighter first clear picture of the most amazing Christmas gifts. J -20 J -14 or code, or J-XX aircraft was taxiing at high speed, "passers, " found that after taking to the web. Perhaps this is to demonstrate transparency, perhaps the countryÂ’s military strength increasingly strong and proud of ChinaÂ’s industrial spun leakage. In short, the new aircraftÂ’s engines roar in the Tiger, and now the remaining question is what kind of new aircraft in the end with the engine.