"Charlie Kirk was a racist because he said that Joy Reid only got into Harvard because of affirmative action." 2023. Joy Reid: "Let me be clear ...

Nope. That was you. You put that spin on it. THe fact remains that the history of that is accurate.
It was DUHSantis dumb-shit.

I didn't claim slavery was a teaching tool.

Florida’s public schools will now teach students that some Black people benefited from slavery because it taught them useful skills, part of new African American history standards approved Wednesday that were blasted by a state teachers' union as a “step backward.”

The Florida State Board of Education’s new standards includes controversial language about how “slaves developed skills which, in some instances, could be applied for their personal benefit,” according to a 216-page document about the state’s 2023 standards in social studies, posted by the Florida Department of Education.
Nothing in that indicates that it will be a major theme or portion of the course.
So, why include it?
I vaguely recall learning about the field house slave divide in school. It was mentioned, discussed for a few minutes and then we moved on. No one really cared. It was an interesting historical factoid. Only interesting to me, because I am a history buff.




It is not defending whites for slavery. Whites don't need to be defended for slavery.
Then why DUHSantis?
YOU seem to think that hte point of teaching history is to ATTACK whites.
You seem to think acknowledging is attacking.
 
It was DUHSantis dumb-shit.

No, it was you that put that spin on it. You need to stop being so stupid.

I didn't claim slavery was a teaching tool.

??? I have no idea what you are even talking about here.

Florida’s public schools will now teach students that some Black people benefited from slavery because it taught them useful skills, part of new African American history standards approved Wednesday that were blasted by a state teachers' union as a “step backward.”

The Florida State Board of Education’s new standards includes controversial language about how “slaves developed skills which, in some instances, could be applied for their personal benefit,” according to a 216-page document about the state’s 2023 standards in social studies, posted by the Florida Department of Education.

Which is fine and in no way supports your pretense that this is going to be some big thing.



So, why include it?

Then why DUHSantis?

YOu're asking me to guess as to the reasons of other people?

I support it, because it's real history.


You seem to think acknowledging is attacking.

NOpe. You are the one that is having a fit, over the fact of this minor nuance on slavery being taught.

That indicates that YOU, want to use slavery to attack whites.
 
No, it was you that put that spin on it. You need to stop being so stupid.
Bull Shit, I posted what the article stated which outlined the new standard.
??? I have no idea what you are even talking about here.
Figures.
Which is fine and in no way supports your pretense that this is going to be some big thing.
It is.
The premise slavery wasn't that bad, because the slaves were "learning".
YOu're asking me to guess as to the reasons of other people?

I support it, because it's real history.
LOL.
NOpe. You are the one that is having a fit, over the fact of this minor nuance on slavery being taught.
Minor nuance.

Sure beating slaves built up up their resistance to pain too.
They didn't need any aspirin.
That indicates that YOU, want to use slavery to attack whites.
That indicates you want to use slavery to absolve white people because " they wuz learnin'"
 
Bull Shit, I posted what the article stated which outlined the new standard.

Which in no way supports your premise that this is about defending whites or slavery.


Figures.

It is.
The premise slavery wasn't that bad, because the slaves were "learning".

Which is your assumption. There is nothing in your excerpt to support that of course.

LOL.

Minor nuance.

Maybe. Don't care. It was a long time ago.

Sure beating slaves built up up their resistance to pain too.
They didn't need any aspirin.

Mmm, what value does that comment add to the discussion? What was teh point of that? Appeal to emotion, from the guy who can feel he is losing the debate?


That indicates you want to use slavery to absolve white people because " they wuz learnin'"

Oh, whoa. I have ZERO desire to "Absolve" white poeple of anything.


I reject the idea of collective guilt.


YOU seem to be revealing that you SUPPORT the idea of collective guilt, and more specifcially want to use the teaching of history to assign collective guilt to WHITES, for slavery.


That is the point that you have been dancing around, afraid to state clearly, because it reveals how vile modern liberalism is.
 
I really have no understanding of the white resentment of affirmative action. Nor, do I understand the obsession with “DEI”.

I am old enough to remember when discrimination in employment was very, very common. Blacks had few opportunities, and the only the worst choices.

Affirmative Action was meant to redress that imbalance and then fade away.

However the conditions that warranted it have decreased ,but not gone away. Indeed, right wing politicians have labored to make it less effective.

I also see no issues with promoting cultural diversity.

I also feel very strongly that our history should be taught honestly, warts and all. It still be a glorious pageant, but one more honestly than the fairytale we were taught.
You are old enough to remember when laws discriminated against black people

Those laws no longer exist
 
You are old enough to remember when laws discriminated against black people

Those laws no longer exist

And have not for a very long time.


I am NOT old enough to remember that time. For my entire life, the laws have been requiring anti-white discrimination.

And, while I am not as old as the other poster, I am FAR from young. Middle aged is really debatable at this point even... So... yeah.
 
And have not for a very long time.


I am NOT old enough to remember that time. For my entire life, the laws have been requiring anti-white discrimination.

And, while I am not as old as the other poster, I am FAR from young. Middle aged is really debatable at this point even... So... yeah.
The libs are still going with the “racist laws” lies.

Last election, I got a mailer from our ultra-liberal congressman in which he touted how he “got rid of racist laws.” I emailed, asking which racist laws still exist in our state in 2024, and I never received a response.

The leftists count on the ignorance of their voters to win elections.
 
The libs are still going with the “racist laws” lies.

Last election, I got a mailer from our ultra-liberal congressman in which he touted how he “got rid of racist laws.” I emailed, asking which racist laws still exist in our state in 2024, and I never received a response.

The leftists count on the ignorance of their voters to win elections.


It is always funny when we take libs at their words and ask them questions as though their shit talk was serious.


The way their brains lock up and are unable to deal with that, is great entertainment.
 
I have never seen any evidence of that save the individual ancedotal claims some people make.
Don't you know man....

Nobody has it worse than middle class white guys. Buffalo Wild Wings only offers 11 flavors of wings.... If AA and DEI wasn't around, there would be 14!

You really have to wonder what world some people live in who swear they are being persecuted. For a long time there I was relishing the day that reality would set in with the MAGA types and they would realize how batshit crazy they have acted but I'm afraid the GOP has institutionalized insanity to the point where that day won't come.
 
Couple of points.

1. That some blacks learned skills and benefited from that is part of the reality of history. That you spin that as a defense of slavery is odd.

2. The standards require that the point be mentioned. There is nothing to imply that it will be a major theme in the lesson. It certainly is not offered as a defense of slavery as you are trying to imply.

3.That you don't want even this tiny... nuance, mentioned, is telling. If historical accuracy is the standard then you would be happy about this. It seems that you oppose it, becasue it is NOT smearing whites, or America.
Next you'll be telling us that Auschwitz was good for the undertakers so we shouldn't have such a negative view about it.
 
Don't you know man....

Nobody has it worse than middle class white guys. Buffalo Wild Wings only offers 11 flavors of wings.... If AA and DEI wasn't around, there would be 14!

You really have to wonder what world some people live in who swear they are being persecuted. For a long time there I was relishing the day that reality would set in with the MAGA types and they would realize how batshit crazy they have acted but I'm afraid the GOP has institutionalized insanity to the point where that day won't come.

Your denial of reality is just you being an asshole.


We have real issues and we want them addressed. You dismiss us?


Well, a little reminder. MAGA is in charge right now, and this you being an asshole?

It reminds us that we need to show you no mercy.

NONE.

We need to use our political power to burn to the ground everything that you people have your non-government power.
 
Your denial of reality is just you being an asshole.
I think you're talking about yourself there.
We have real issues and we want them addressed. You dismiss us?
You have no issues except the ones you imagine. Yes I dismiss you like I do all imbeciles.
Well, a little reminder. MAGA is in charge right now, and this you being an asshole?
Trump won an election.... and we're seeing the fallout from it. Imbeciles like you feel all empowered and everything.
It reminds us that we need to show you no mercy.
Yeah dude....another fantasy on your part. What are you going to do to me?
Are you talking about your prospects of getting laid again?
We need to use our political power to burn to the ground everything that you people have your non-government power.

Yep...we're going through a manmade disaster currently. All a thinking person (unlike you) is hope that there is something left to rebuild when the blob oozes out of office.
 
I think you're talking about yourself there.

You have no issues except the ones you imagine. Yes I dismiss you like I do all imbeciles.

White people have no issues? What an aburd thing to say. Everyone has interests or problems. All you are doing is admitting that you don't want OUR interests to EVERY be served by national policy.

And that is not acceptable. Or reasonable.

You are the bad guy here.


Trump won an election.... and we're seeing the fallout from it. Imbeciles like you feel all empowered and everything.

Yeah dude....another fantasy on your part. What are you going to do to me?

1. Stop the flow of money, both tax payer money and enforced corporate money, to your organizations and allies.

2. Purge you lefties from government.

3. Hammer your schools with civil rights violation fines, until they stop DEI practices, that will undermine your control and remove money from your systems.

4. Continue to call out the absurdities of your ideas and policies so that the people continue to turn away from you.

5. Arrest you for your crimes instead of continuing to give you passes.


6. Raise wages and point that out to people, so that they don't fall for you lies again.

7. Make teh cities safer, then point out to people how fewer of them are dying, and to blame teh dems for the past deaths of their family and friends.


8. And thus, crush your dreams of a leftard future.


Are you talking about your prospects of getting laid again?

Buddy. You are not in a position to challenge my manhood. All you just did there was fill me with smug triumph.


Yep...we're going through a manmade disaster currently. All a thinking person (unlike you) is hope that there is something left to rebuild when the blob oozes out of office.

I agree with you, in that this is your last chance. The good results of MAGA policies are already being felt. You NEED to scream loud and a lot, to try to frame the narrative you need, so to convince people to ignore the results and focus on the narrative. That is your only hope.


Because otherwise, if MAGA wins the midterms, then we will have plenty of time to fix this country. And then, in 2028, there will really be no hope for you.

Certainly not afterwards.

MAGA will be the new normal,for the rest of your life.
 
The best argument against DEI is the Biden adminstratration that was systemically incompetent and failed at every level of government.
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White people have no issues? What an aburd thing to say. Everyone has interests or problems. All you are doing is admitting that you don't want OUR interests to EVERY be served by national policy.

And that is not acceptable. Or reasonable.

You are the bad guy here.




1. Stop the flow of money, both tax payer money and enforced corporate money, to your organizations and allies.

2. Purge you lefties from government.

3. Hammer your schools with civil rights violation fines, until they stop DEI practices, that will undermine your control and remove money from your systems.

4. Continue to call out the absurdities of your ideas and policies so that the people continue to turn away from you.

5. Arrest you for your crimes instead of continuing to give you passes.


6. Raise wages and point that out to people, so that they don't fall for you lies again.

7. Make teh cities safer, then point out to people how fewer of them are dying, and to blame teh dems for the past deaths of their family and friends.


8. And thus, crush your dreams of a leftard future.




Buddy. You are not in a position to challenge my manhood. All you just did there was fill me with smug triumph.




I agree with you, in that this is your last chance. The good results of MAGA policies are already being felt. You NEED to scream loud and a lot, to try to frame the narrative you need, so to convince people to ignore the results and focus on the narrative. That is your only hope.


Because otherwise, if MAGA wins the midterms, then we will have plenty of time to fix this country. And then, in 2028, there will really be no hope for you.

Certainly not afterwards.

MAGA will be the new normal,for the rest of your life.
I just want to address your point about anti-white leftists thinking whites have no issues or problems because….theyre white, doncha know?

I remember showing a black co-worker a photo of my parents. She looked at it and said, “an upper-middle class white couple who never had any problems.”

I mean, wtf? What about the time my mother was in the hospital for months when she was still in her 30s, with the odds of survival very low, and my father being responsible for three children under age 10, and then he got a notice that his company was having layoffs?!

Blacks who support anti-white discrimination try to justify it in their own minds by believing “whiteness” means whites have easy, charmed lives.
 
White people have no issues? What an aburd thing to say. Everyone has interests or problems. All you are doing is admitting that you don't want OUR interests to EVERY be served by national policy.
If you’re comparing your “struggle” with that of the average black man and think you have it worse, you’re a ******* idiot.
1. Stop the flow of money, both tax payer money and enforced corporate money, to your organizations and allies.

2. Purge you lefties from government.

3. Hammer your schools with civil rights violation fines, until they stop DEI practices, that will undermine your control and remove money from your systems.

4. Continue to call out the absurdities of your ideas and policies so that the people continue to turn away from you.

5. Arrest you for your crimes instead of continuing to give you passes.


6. Raise wages and point that out to people, so that they don't fall for you lies again.

7. Make teh cities safer, then point out to people how fewer of them are dying, and to blame teh dems for the past deaths of their family and friends.


8. And thus, crush your dreams of a leftard future.
Again, your alternate reality is rather amusing.

Have you stopped anyone from “eating the cats” yet? That used to be a big issue for MAGA.
Buddy. You are not in a position to challenge my manhood.
Nobody can find your manhood.
All you just did there was fill me with smug triumph.
Sure INCEL...whatever you say.
 
I have never seen any evidence of that save the individual ancedotal claims some people make.
Who are being displaced to place these unqualified candidates?
 
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I just want to address your point about anti-white leftists thinking whites have no issues or problems because….theyre white, doncha know?

I remember showing a black co-worker a photo of my parents. She looked at it and said, “an upper-middle class white couple who never had any problems.”

I mean, wtf? What about the time my mother was in the hospital for months when she was still in her 30s, with the odds of survival very low, and my father being responsible for three children under age 10, and then he got a notice that his company was having layoffs?!

Blacks who support anti-white discrimination try to justify it in their own minds by believing “whiteness” means whites have easy, charmed lives.

Agreed. The lack of human consideration AND simple logic, is complete.


They are utterly stupid adn soulless.
 
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