Charlie Kirk Shot and Killed at Utah Valley University

[jc456]

He's full of shit! Snipers do not rely on signals from anyone else. The whole idea is preposterous! You need to start a thread in conspiracy theories.

Are you saying the military document doesn’t exist?

 

[jc456]

Nauseating. That's what war is, folks. Right there. The worst possible state of humanity. What can be worse?

What war?

 

[HikerGuy83]

You know, you're nothing but a troll. A normal person might occasionally get into an angry argument, but you can't either help yourself with your two-year old ad hominem attacks, or you're trying to be a comedian in order to get attention.
Either way, you do not warrant being taken seriously.

Oh, by the way, does your mom's basement get cold in the winter?

He's trolling you.

Put him on ignore. I went a couple of rounds with him a while back and decided he was of ZERO VALUE. Then I put him on ignore.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Just seen the video of Charlie Kirk getting shot. I would say the poor guy didn't have many seconds to live after that shot.

Yes, after watching it, it was obvious he had no chance of survival. It was a .30-06, and they don't pack a punch, they pack a sledgehammer.
I remember years ago we were out shooting. We set up targets 100yds away. At one point I took a can of pop and shook it up real good. I then ran back and lined my '06 at it, and then everyone was 'where did it go. We looked all around, and it simply vaporized it. We found nothing but microscopic bits of aluminum.

 

[yidnar]

Except there were no trans slogans to be found on the bullets. That was BS. It is now long more and more like alt right groyper references and even one anti gay message.

AI Overview



Regarding the assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk, a former high school friend of the suspect, Tyler Robinson, told
The Guardian that Robinson was "pretty left on everything" during his high school years.

Reports on the suspect's political views

• A high school friend told The Guardian in a phone interview that Robinson became "more extreme" in his political views around his sophomore year. The friend noted that Robinson would "always just be ranting and arguing about them" and was the only member of his family who was "really leftist," as the rest were "very hard Republican". The friend added that he was not in touch with Robinson after they drifted apart toward the end of high school.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Nope. Misinformation.

You have a link to that?

 

[yidnar]

If he’s so political why did he not vote in elections

AI Overview



Regarding the assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk, a former high school friend of the suspect, Tyler Robinson, told
The Guardian that Robinson was "pretty left on everything" during his high school years.

Reports on the suspect's political views

• A high school friend told The Guardian in a phone interview that Robinson became "more extreme" in his political views around his sophomore year. The friend noted that Robinson would "always just be ranting and arguing about them" and was the only member of his family who was "really leftist," as the rest were "very hard Republican". The friend added that he was not in touch with Robinson after they drifted apart toward the end of high school.

 

[TemplarKormac]

 

[beagle9]

Just seen the video of Charlie Kirk getting shot. I would say the poor guy didn't have many seconds to live after that shot.

Wonder if the dad was the owner of the deer rifle ? They said the dad and a friend turned him in, but was it after finding out that the young man was finally identified, and couldn't last much longer ? If so, then could it be that the dad and friend were in agreement with the radical views that the young man espoused, even though they figured that the boy would never do such a thing or did they figure it that way ???? Otherwise did they help to radicalize their boy ???

 

[odanny]

From a guy called "The Hungry Black Man" on FB.


America lost Charlie Kirk a couple hours ago, violently, tragically, and in a moment that was recorded, and is circulating social. I will not post it because it’s absolutley horrific.
Charlie was not a figure of grace or empathy. History will not remember him as a voice of unity or a champion of justice. He will be remembered for the words he chose, words that often wounded and divided. As he lay bleeding out onstage, those words, once weapons, became dust.
When he was shot, he was speaking about one of America’s deepest wounds: mass shootings. When asked about school shootings, his response was not measured compassion but deflection. “Counting or not counting gang violence?” he said, as if the grief of families who send their children to school only to bury them could be minimized by a technicality. And then, almost instantly, a shot rang out. He fell, his voice instantly silenced.

This is not eulogy-flattery. This is memory.

We remember the things he said about Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.: “MLK was awful. He’s not a good person.” We remember his calculation on gun violence: “I think it’s worth … some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational.” These are not the words of healing, not the words of unity. And yet they, too, are part of the ledger he leaves behind.
So what do we do with a legacy like this? First, we tell the truth. We acknowledge what he said, how he said it, and the hurt it caused. Second, we resist the temptation to let violence beget violence. For if this act tells us anything, it is that political violence has become a siren call to the unhinged, a spark they would gladly use to ignite the tinderbox of racial and class resentment. Today it was a conservative voice silenced. Tomorrow, it could just as easily be a progressive one. We must not let this become the currency of politics.
We should also understand the warning buried in this moment. What we say matters. How we live matters. The words we choose, the causes we defend, the way we treat one another, these become the bricks of our legacy. Kirk’s words were often sharp, sometimes cruel, but they are now etched into his memory as surely as his death. Let the rest of us take note: legacies should be rooted in love, in justice, in equality, not in division or deflection.
Rest, if you can, Mr. Kirk. May your final act teach us something lasting: that even in grief, we are called to choose better

 

[Captain Caveman]

Wonder if the dad was the owner of the deer rifle ? They said the dad and a friend turned him in, but was it after finding out that the young man was finally identified, and couldn't last much longer ? If so, then could it be that the dad and friend were in agreement with the radical views that the young man espoused, even though they figured that the boy would never do such a thing or did they figure it that way ???? Otherwise did they help to radicalize their boy ???

Well, the BBC reported -

At a news conference on Friday, investigators said the suspect confessed to his father and said he would rather take his own life than surrender. The father then called a youth pastor who is a family friend.

Both men tried to calm the suspect down, police said. The pastor, who also serves as a court security officer, later called the US Marshals who detained the suspect at around 22:00 local time on Thursday.

And then about the gun -

Cox said investigators had also spoken to a roommate of the suspect who had shown them messages with an account named "Tyler" on the messaging app Discord.

The messages referred to a need to retrieve a rifle from "a drop point" and the rifle being left in a bush, wrapped in a towel.

The FBI said on Thursday they had found the suspected weapon - an imported Mauser .30-06 bolt action rifle - wrapped in a towel in a wooded area near campus.

Cox told reporters that inscriptions had been found engraved on casings recovered with the rifle, which had a scope mounted on top of it.

Charlie Kirk's suspected killer arrested after confessing to father

Tyler Robinson is accused of shooting the right-wing activist while he was speaking at a university in Utah on Wednesday.

www.bbc.co.uk

Basically, a nut case.

 

[HikerGuy83]

He is in UTAH! Liberals have no need to vote there as conservatives always win.

Salt Lake is a mess. The rest of the state is solid red.

 

[P@triot]

Dirt stupid racist MAGA imbecile....

Lying to incite violence is what the left does

 

[P@triot]

But those aren't the only people who meme it.

Huh? It wasn’t a “meme”. They were bullets casings covered in leftist slogans. He wasn’t trying to create physical “memes”

And the fascist remark? Same language we have heard from the far right about anyone left of them (which is everyone) for years.

Sooooooo to summarize…you actually believe that you can convince people that this typical leftist violent thug was “right-wing”?

There is one glaring flaw in your super weak and desperate sentence right there. It requires the world to believe that the kid thought Charlie Kirk was left-wing

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Lying to incite violence is what the left does

At least we know how WWII began...imbecile bumpkin.

 

[P@triot]

Nauseating. That's what war is, folks. Right there. The worst possible state of humanity. What can be worse?

• Murdering innocent and defenseless babies is far worse
• Raping/trafficking children is far worse
• Left-wing societies (godless, socialist, etc.) are far worse

As horrific as war is, there are many things far worse than grown men going to war.

 

[dblack]

The political fallout of this will be the exact opposite of what the killer must have hoped. It won't strike a blow against fascism. Much like the assassination attempt on Trump put MAGA back in the White House, killing Kirk will do far more to fan the flames of fascism than Kirk debating dumb college kids.

 

[P@triot]

At least we know how WWII began...imbecile bumpkin.

No you don’t. I proved that already

Nothing funnier than your 2nd grade logic of “Hitler fought the Soviet Union which was communist so he must be right-wing”

Never mind that he fought the U.S. (capitalism), England (capitalism), France (capitalism), and Poland (capitalism)

You’re young and uneducated. You didn’t do your homework. And you paid the price for it.

 

[Marchimedes]

fascism

Please to define.

 

[dblack]

Please to define.

You don't have access to a dictionary?