CBS Won't Fact Check - They'll Just DO THEIR JOBS

[LeroyDumonde]

ps......that is what journalism is. What journalism does.
Duh!"

Then why didn't they fact check Harris lies about Charlottesville, the bloodbath comment, or her job economic lies?

 

[Chillicothe]

Then why didn't they fact check Harris lies about Charlottesville, the bloodbath comment, or her job economic lies?

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WHAT.....were those 'lies'? In your opinion.

Be specific, so the forum will know just what you are referring to.

 

[LeroyDumonde]

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WHAT.....were those 'lies'? In your opinion.

Be specific, so the forum will know just what you are referring to.

The forum knows what I'm talking about. That you're ignorant is hardly surprising.

 

[eagle7-31]

CBS News draws a red line after ABC debate fact-checking drama​

MSN

CBS News, hosting vice presidential candidates JD Vance and Tim Walz for the general election campaign’s third debate next week, says it will be up to the politicians — not the moderators — to check the facts of their opponents.

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Yeah, that's the way it works.

Instead of running interference like the two assholes from ABC posing as moderators, these people will let Walz figure out what's wrong.

Not that he has a clue.

But, I give CBS credit. They know what a MODERATORS JOB is.

Vance is still going into a 3 against 1 situation like Trump. Which is why I won't watch this useless version of kabuki political theatre.

 

[Chillicothe]

"That you're ignorant is hardly surprising."

Mi amigo, YOU are the one who claimed it. Not me. Or my avatar.
And the way it works in responsible adult discourse (I was mildly sure you knew this)...the way it works is..... if you make a claim, an assertion, and allegation then it is you who needs to demonstrate you know what you are talking about. And it falls on you to then persuade the audience that you are credible, that you can be believed.

So, do it.
The forum will feel better about you for your sincere and competent efforts.
Trust me on that.

 

[eagle7-31]

CBS News draws a red line after ABC debate fact-checking drama​

MSN

CBS News, hosting vice presidential candidates JD Vance and Tim Walz for the general election campaign’s third debate next week, says it will be up to the politicians — not the moderators — to check the facts of their opponents.

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Yeah, that's the way it works.

Instead of running interference like the two assholes from ABC posing as moderators, these people will let Walz figure out what's wrong.

Not that he has a clue.

But, I give CBS credit. They know what a MODERATORS JOB is.

I'll be at the movies watching Beetlejuice tonight. Have no interest in another 3 on 1 left wing folly.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Cool three debates all "moderated" by Democrat controlled news outlets, CNN, ABC and CBS. Can't even have one moderated by Fox. Let's hear it for a fair and balanced election process!

When fox moderated, Chris Wallace asked trump about white supremacy.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

CBS won’t need fact checks when their questions are like this…

Senator Vance,
Do you still believe trump is as bad as hitler?


Governor Walz,
How does it feel to be vice president to America’s first woman president?


Senator Vance,
Is trump still as bad as hitler?


Governor Walz,
Do you believe open borders will enhance America’s greatest strength, its diversity?


Senator Vance,
Do you believe trump is as bad as hitler or worse than Hitler?


Governor Walz,
Who are your favorite NFL cheerleaders?


Senator Vance,
Do you agree with trump that white supremacists and neo-nazis are very fine people?



Governor Walz,
How does it feel to be a championship football coach?


Senator Vance,
As trump’s running mate, would you consider yourself like Goering or more like Goebbels?

 

[ThisIsMe]

CBS IS fact checking, just not the moderators. CBS will have a QR code pop up on screen during the debate where people can scan and they will be taken to a cbs website where they will have a team of about 20 people fact checking

 

[CowboyTed]

True, that IS the moderators job, just to ask the questions and run the clock. The debate is supposed to remain between the candidates.
But I suspect that to CBS, it is a bit more:

• By not fact-checking, they hope to cash in on the criticism that ABC got.
• By not fact-checking, they remove any possibility of criticism for allowing Walz to make any claim he wants. Without fact-checking, Walz can be the most flawed candidate imaginable, say anything he wants, and now it is 100% on Trump's shoulders to defend against it. But what about Trump? Can he say anything? He can try, but now Walz is free to attack in response saying anything and it is again on Trump's shoulders to defend, CBS is free and clear.

Let's be clear...

On a national broadcast Trump said an erroneous lie about a group of people going about their lives (eating cats and dogs).

The moderators (who represents their employers) didn't want a such an egregious piece of disinformation which had the intend of vilifying a group of innocent people and subject them to a hate campaign which involve threats of violence and bomb threats to be aired from their network corrected a person on their network...

If you want to spread disinformation which would cause violence against a group of innocent people then it is the duty of a moderator or new anchor to step in immediately and correct the record.

You are so used to getting away vilifying people you think it is your right now and you shouldn't even be contradicted.

 

[Rawley]

CBS News draws a red line after ABC debate fact-checking drama​

MSN

CBS News, hosting vice presidential candidates JD Vance and Tim Walz for the general election campaign’s third debate next week, says it will be up to the politicians — not the moderators — to check the facts of their opponents.

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Yeah, that's the way it works.

Instead of running interference like the two assholes from ABC posing as moderators, these people will let Walz figure out what's wrong.

Not that he has a clue.

But, I give CBS credit. They know what a MODERATORS JOB is.

I'll believe it when I see it. I haven't seen Nora O'Donnell in years, but I watch Face the Nation fairly regularly. Margret Brenner is very partisan. She'll fact check via "follow up" questions.

 

[CowboyTed]

Award winning....as in biggest asshole ?

Being a so-called prominent journalist means NOTHING these days.

Fuck off.


Highly regarded ? By who ? You ? Hahahahaha

These two are losers and the whole industry is seen as one step below used car sales


Not in a debate, jackass. That is the job of the opponent. It's always been that way. Ever judged a debate ? You don't judge based on things you think you know.

Dumbass.


If you watch a debate looking for truth, you are a fool.

Candy Crowley tarnished her career and retired soon after her 2012 fuck up.

If you want journalism, you read a newspaper.

A debate is where the two candidates show what they know.

If they want to lie their asses off, it's up to their opponents to point it out.

NOT THE MODERATORS.

Fuckwad.

We understand that you just want 2 hours of fact free ranting...

Thank God, America expects better than you...

 

[CowboyTed]

The forum knows what I'm talking about. That you're ignorant is hardly surprising.

So you can't be specific...

In debate rules you loose...

Now if it was a fact free rant, you might hold your own... Thanks for making our point...

 

[Kilroy2]

Still CBS is caving into republican pressure. Harris knows how to debate as she was on the debate team in college. Trump just wings it. So they are favoring Trump on this.

Trump unhinged would be nothing new so this is not a debate but what the heck and anything goes. .

Trump is going to be wrong 80% of the time. So if they want this to be a what if, what the heck, truth does not matter then it will be that

If fact checking corrects errors then they should be corrected and it keeps the topic on track instead of what the heck anything goes as long as it the spoken word.

I can understand that it good PR to let trump go unhinged and rattle away but a debate is a controlled discussion. IF Trump cannot control himself then so be it.

If you cannot control the discussion , it is no long a debate but a platform for each side to repeat the usual. So its not a debate just a platform to present your position.

but in the end it going to be a shouting match

Still Harris should have no problem. Trump will be the usual suspect.

 

[LeroyDumonde]

So you can't be specific...

In debate rules you loose...

Now if it was a fact free rant, you might hold your own... Thanks for making our point...

Let's start with the "very fine people" lie. Trump explicitly condemned White nationalists and Neo-nazis and excluded them from his "very fine people" remark. I know that. You know that. Kamala knows that. Pedo Joe knows that. So why are you pretending to be an ignoramus?

 

[CowboyTed]

Still CBS is caving into republican pressure. Harris knows how to debate as she was on the debate team in college. Trump just wings it. So they are favoring Trump on this.

Trump unhinged would be nothing new so this is not a debate but what the heck and anything goes. .

Trump is going to be wrong 80% of the time. So if they want this to be a what if, what the heck, truth does not matter then it will be that

If fact checking corrects errors then they should be corrected and it keeps the topic on track instead of what the heck anything goes as long as it the spoken word.

I can understand that it good PR to let trump go unhinged and rattle away but a debate is a controlled discussion. IF Trump cannot control himself then so be it.

If you cannot control the discussion , it is no long a debate but a platform for each side to repeat the usual. So its not a debate just a platform to present your position.

but in the end it going to be a shouting match

Still Harris should have no problem. Trump will be the usual suspect.

Seriously, these MAGA should see how political discussion happened in the past and in 1st world countries today...

I know in certain countries in Europe if you are caught lying the next question from the anchor would be,
'You have been a proven liar today, why should we trust anything else you say?'

You will be ripped to shreds.

Bush didn't lie in this interview but he was trying to run down the clock (a common tactic)

It’s a journalist’s right, as well as her duty, to ask the hard questions

“ON the eve of his recent sojourn in Europe, President Bush had an unpleasant run-in with a species of creature he had not previously encountered often — a journalist.”

www.irishexaminer.com

In fairness Bush handled himself better than most... Sorry but if Trump got this we never have heard the end of it...

 

[CowboyTed]

Let's start with the "very fine people" lie.

Read the transcript from the debate... Harris was misleading but not actually a lie...
"And understand, the former president has been indicted and impeached for exactly that reason. But this is not an isolated situation. Let's remember Charlottesville, where there was a mob of people carrying tiki torches, spewing antisemitic hate, and what did the president then at the time say? There were fine people on each side. Let's remember that when it came to the Proud Boys, a militia, the president said, the former president said, "Stand back and stand by." So for everyone watching who remembers what January 6th was, I say we don't have to go back. Let's not go back." - Harris

Harris could easily point out that Trump was giving them cover under fine people and did little initally to be clear on who he should be condemning...

Trump explicitly condemned White nationalists and Neo-nazis and excluded them from his "very fine people" remark. I know that. You know that. Kamala knows that. Pedo Joe knows that. So why are you pretending to be an ignoramus?

Trump’s Charlottesville statement was repugnant — no matter how you parse it

Apparently, it’s important to Trump that he convince people that his response to the racist, murderous violence in Virginia wasn’t beneath the office of the presidency.

www.msnbc.com

Speaking in an interview on the morning of the rally, former Ku Klux Klan Grand Wizard David Duke called the protests "a turning point for the people of this country. We are determined to take our country back. We're going to fulfill the promises of Donald Trump. That’s why we voted for Donald Trump, because he said he’s going to take our country back." Following Trump's initial comments made three days after the rally, Duke tweeted, "Thank you President Trump for your honesty & courage to tell the truth about #Charlottesville & condemn the leftist terrorists in BLM/Antifa."[257][258] The Daily Stormer wrote of Trump's response, "He didn't attack us…. No condemnation at all. When asked to condemn, he just walked out of the room. Really, really good. God bless him.

He was praised by the KKK and the Daily Stormer at the time...
Trump has to defend himself there...

Harris could have been more specific and say that Trump was prised by the KKK and Neo-NAzi Paper (Daily Stormer) for his handling of Charlottesville. They said he didn't attack them...

 

[LeroyDumonde]

Read the transcript from the debate... Harris was misleading but not actually a lie...

That's still a lie.

"And understand, the former president has been indicted and impeached for exactly that reason. But this is not an isolated situation. Let's remember Charlottesville, where there was a mob of people carrying tiki torches, spewing antisemitic hate, and what did the president then at the time say? There were fine people on each side. Let's remember that when it came to the Proud Boys, a militia, the president said, the former president said, "Stand back and stand by." So for everyone watching who remembers what January 6th was, I say we don't have to go back. Let's not go back." - Harris

Proud Boys is not a militia. I'd forgotten about that lie. Thanks for reminding me.

Harris could easily point out that Trump was giving them cover under fine people and did little initally to be clear on who he should be condemning...

"...you had people and I'm not talking about the neo-nazis and the white nationalist
because they should be condemned totally."

Trump’s Charlottesville statement was repugnant — no matter how you parse it

Apparently, it’s important to Trump that he convince people that his response to the racist, murderous violence in Virginia wasn’t beneath the office of the presidency.

www.msnbc.com

Speaking in an interview on the morning of the rally, former Ku Klux Klan Grand Wizard David Duke called the protests "a turning point for the people of this country. We are determined to take our country back. We're going to fulfill the promises of Donald Trump. That’s why we voted for Donald Trump, because he said he’s going to take our country back." Following Trump's initial comments made three days after the rally, Duke tweeted, "Thank you President Trump for your honesty & courage to tell the truth about #Charlottesville & condemn the leftist terrorists in BLM/Antifa."[257][258] The Daily Stormer wrote of Trump's response, "He didn't attack us…. No condemnation at all. When asked to condemn, he just walked out of the room. Really, really good. God bless him.

He was praised by the KKK and the Daily Stormer at the time...
Trump has to defend himself there...

Harris could have been more specific and say that Trump was prised by the KKK and Neo-NAzi Paper (Daily Stormer) for his handling of Charlottesville. They said he didn't attack them...

Duke is wrong. Trump condemned White nationalists and neo-nazis.

 

[Kilroy2]

Seriously, these MAGA should see how political discussion happened in the past and in 1st world countries today...

I know in certain countries in Europe if you are caught lying the next question from the anchor would be,
'You have been a proven liar today, why should we trust anything else you say?'

You will be ripped to shreds.

Bush didn't lie in this interview but he was trying to run down the clock (a common tactic)

It’s a journalist’s right, as well as her duty, to ask the hard questions

“ON the eve of his recent sojourn in Europe, President Bush had an unpleasant run-in with a species of creature he had not previously encountered often — a journalist.”

www.irishexaminer.com

In fairness Bush handled himself better than most... Sorry but if Trump got this we never have heard the end of it...

that is direct and to the point

 

[CowboyTed]

That's still a lie.

Nope... At best misleading... But the whole time Trump spent days before actually condemning it...

Proud Boys is not a militia. I'd forgotten about that lie. Thanks for reminding me.

• The Proud Boys is a North American all-male, far-right, neo-fascist militant organization that promotes and engages in political violence.[
  
  

"...you had people and I'm not talking about the neo-nazis and the white nationalist
because they should be condemned totally."

Trump took 3 days to make that statement... He lambasted into saying it by media on all sides...

Duke is wrong. Trump condemned White nationalists and neo-nazis.

Trump was very hesitant in condemning them... Took him 3 days after the event.
He was shamed into it and everyone knows it... Harris has a full right to call him out on it considering what he said later on.

We know you will cover him for his actions.... Harris called him out on it..